jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Aug 8, 2017 10:13:30 GMT -5
Don't let Jean fool you, the girl is a master lapidarian. You didn't have to tell the world rockpickerforever 's private secrets jamesp grin.. I was careful to add the master I know she is Cliff. Girl may have it goin on in other categories too !! She may elaborate. Like 2 seconds after she finds out we are talking about her lol. Fun to tag team her. Takes more than one....
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 8, 2017 10:21:41 GMT -5
I seen that, James. Lol. Actually, it was 8 minutes.
ETA - Until I can get some pics taken (gotta find that bag of tumbles, where did it go?) and posted, you can enjoy some cabs I did for jamesp in this old thread Wild cabs by Jean out of his famous coral. Another thread where James sings my praises (and yet gives me grief while I am away, ha!). So typical... Had to quit talking shit when I got back, had some 'splaining to do.
He was calling me a great lapidarian back in Dec 2013!
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Post by johnjsgems on Aug 8, 2017 10:38:19 GMT -5
The B motor should have two oil ports like the one in the photo. Add a few drops light weight oil and hope for best. It is a very small motor and not a candidate for repair or rebuild. If it has not been used for a long time oil it, spin to start and let it run without belt on. May just have dry bearings. No capacitor either. A tip to those that have one, always remove belt when not in use.
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 8, 2017 10:53:43 GMT -5
I was careful to add the master I know she is Cliff. Girl may have it goin on in other categories too !! She may elaborate. Like 2 seconds after she finds out we are talking about her lol. Fun to tag team her. Takes more than one.... Jeans a master something or another. Yep takes several of us like wigglinrocks and you jamesp to really match up on her. Remember the abuse we got from her on the alien yard ornament deal? Grin.
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 8, 2017 10:56:30 GMT -5
I seen that, James. Lol. Actually, it was 8 minutes.
ETA - Until I can get some pics taken (gotta find that bag of tumbles, where did it go?) and posted, you can enjoy some cabs I did for jamesp in this old thread Wild cabs by Jean out of his famous coral. Another thread where James sings my praises (and yet gives me grief while I am away, ha!). So typical... Had to quit talking shit when I got back, had some 'splaining to do.
He was calling me a great lapidarian back in Dec 2013! Calling you a great lapidarian huh?? Did you loan him the money he was probably trying to borrow? grin TY That old timey link.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 8, 2017 10:58:20 GMT -5
Don't let Jean fool you, the girl is a master lapidarian. Knew there were secrets she wasn't lettin on . Doesn't do a bunch of braggin and then BAM where did that come from .
Sorry for keeping them from you, Rich. Not a narcissist (it's not all about me), never done much bragging. Unpretentious, low-key, California laid back.
ETA - coloradocliff , I also don't take life too seriously, I know things said here are all in fun... Love RTH and the folks that make it fun and educational. (Even the new ones .)
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Post by wigglinrocks on Aug 8, 2017 12:27:31 GMT -5
Good news! I did as instructed, and the motor DOES run, but won't spin unless hand-started. Is it much of a job to replace the starter? My father thinks he can fix it if I can get the part(s). Also a friend of his is a mechanical genius, so if Dad can't fix it, probably Rick can. Can you post the name plate. HP/RPM/Voltage/etc. Will look it up and see if it has a starter circuit. I doubt it, it should be a 1/10 or 1/20th HP and has no starter circuit. If it was buzzing before you helped it spin it could have sticky bearings. If that is the case it may be oil able but not likely for longevity as those probably have self lub bearings and wigglin is right, rebuild or replacement. Bet johnjsgems can tell you off the hip. Probably a single shaft 1/20 HP like this Never seen it, but this looks like a 1/20 HP with capacitor start. wigglinrocks , does yours have a capacitor attached like this Not capacitor start , resembles the first motor pic but the bolts don't run all the way through . Not sure of the HP , doesn't say , I think it says 1.1 amps . Model A has a 1/20 HP , motor on B is smaller . On the ones I have .
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 8, 2017 12:40:44 GMT -5
Knew there were secrets she wasn't lettin on . Doesn't do a bunch of braggin and then BAM where did that come from .
Sorry for keeping them from you, Rich. Not a narcissist (it's not all about me), never done much bragging. Unpretentious, low-key, California laid back.
ETA - coloradocliff , I also don't take life too seriously, I know things said here are all in fun... Love RTH and the folks that make it fun and educational. (Even the new ones .)
Really awesome coral cabs dearie.. Great. Love them. All gone now? Did you mean "younger" members? hehehehe
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Aug 8, 2017 13:03:11 GMT -5
Get her Cliff.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 8, 2017 13:14:59 GMT -5
Boooooooyyyyyyyssssss! No, Cliff, the "newer" most recent members. Like, the ones that signed up three - four months ago and have almost 1800 posts, lol. Kidding, you fit right in here!
coloradocliff , Thank you hon. I enjoyed making them, but that coral is certainly some HARD material. No mas of those cabs. jamesp sent me the material, I made the cabs for him and sent them all back. I understand he has a secret stash somewhere, a hidey-hole for all his fine and treasured things.
Doh, I have an "A" model, not a "B" Gy-roc. The motor is 1/20 HP. Photos coming up.
Motor info. No capacitor start, just a bitty thing.
The eccentric/counterweight on top of the shaker assembly, the bowl sits on top of this. I've not messed with changing it any. I always take o-ring/drive belt off, store it over the cone (loosely).
Better shot of o-ring, kinda disappeared in the last photo.
A better shot of the counterweight. Please ignore the mess, you'd think I would take better care of my toys...
Plastic cover over the two step pulley, which is mounted on the motor shaft. It is held in place over two of the three motor mounting screws with slight tension.
When I first used it, I did not know that this came off without a bunch of hassle, so I painstakingly put the o-ring on with the cover in place. (Not addressed in the one sheet instructions.)
This is where a stacked focus camera would be useful! As mentioned previously, I had to loosen the set screw on the pulley on the shaker assembly, and move it more inline with the opposite pulley, so my new o-ring didn't get destroyed.
With the cover off, changing the o-ring is simple. I just took my damaged o-ring to a local o-ring supplier, and they matched something up for me. Less than $2.
Took pics of the most recent tumbles, will start a new thread for them soon.
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 8, 2017 15:04:02 GMT -5
Boooooooyyyyyyyssssss! No, Cliff, the "newer" most recent members. Like, the ones that signed up three - four months ago and have almost 1800 posts, lol. Kidding, you fit right in here!
coloradocliff , Thank you hon. I enjoyed making them, but that coral is certainly some HARD material. No mas of those cabs. jamesp sent me the material, I made the cabs for him and sent them all back. I understand he has a secret stash somewhere, a hidey-hole for all his fine and treasured things.
Doh, I have an "A" model, not a "B" Gy-roc. The motor is 1/20 HP. Photos coming up.
Motor info. No capacitor start, just a bitty thing.
The eccentric/counterweight on top of the shaker assembly, the bowl sits on top of this. I've not messed with changing it any. I always take o-ring/drive belt off, store it over the cone (loosely).
Better shot of o-ring, kinda disappeared in the last photo.
A better shot of the counterweight. Please ignore the mess, you'd think I would take better care of my toys...
Plastic cover over the two step pulley, which is mounted on the motor shaft. It is held in place over two of the three motor mounting screws with slight tension.
When I first used it, I did not know that this came off without a bunch of hassle, so I painstakingly put the o-ring on with the cover in place. (Not addressed in the one sheet instructions.)
This is where a stacked focus camera would be useful! As mentioned previously, I had to loosen the set screw on the pulley on the shaker assembly, and move it more inline with the opposite pulley, so my new o-ring didn't get destroyed.
With the cover off, changing the o-ring is simple. I just took my damaged o-ring to a local o-ring supplier, and they matched something up for me. Less than $2.
Took pics of the most recent tumbles, will start a new thread for them soon.
Cool machine. .I had yah figured for a model "A" girl.. Horse and buggy isn't as new wave and cool as Callie cool. grin. Lots of patience girl Heavy duty..
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 8, 2017 15:05:44 GMT -5
Now I just gotta clean up my act
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Post by wigglinrocks on Aug 8, 2017 16:51:12 GMT -5
I store the belts in a ziplock when not in use to keep them from drying out . That was suggested by the manufacturer .
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Post by jamesp on Aug 8, 2017 16:56:46 GMT -5
Now I just gotta clean up my act Nice vibe Jean. The eccentric is mounted in ball bearings instead of on the motor. Long life design. There are o-ring drive belts made of polyurethane. I had a hard time finding stock sizes. I believe they are made to last. O-rings made for sealing are not designed for drive belts. Maybe Gy Roc uses them. www.durabelt.com/roundoringinfo.phpDuraBelt fabricates resilient endless round belts, (also called round belting, O-ring belts or endless drive belts) for power transmission applications and live roller conveyors, i.e., lineshaft conveyors and powered roller conveyors. Urethane round belts are elastomeric belts, meaning they are designed to stretch, so they do not require a belt tensioner. Key features are: Round Belts, Urethane Belt Round Belts Round Belts urethane belt Lineshaft Round Belt Cross-sections from 1/16" to 3/4", also most metric sizes (2mm to 18mm) and standard O-ring sizes. Any length above 3" cut length (depends on cord cross-section). Durometers: 60A, 70A, 75A, 76A, 80A, 83A, 85A, 88A, 90A, 92A, 95A, 100A, 53D Colors: clear, orange, red, green, blue, light blue, white, yellow, brown, black. Also see Retro-Color process Textures: smooth or rough/matte finish. Economical -- no tooling charge. Best resilience of any elastic material. Tough & durable. Highly resistant to cuts and abrasion. Non-marking. Won't fray. Fits round or V pulleys. Easily cleaned. Resistant to fuels and oils. (Non-Slip Belts) Most are Food Grade USDA/FDA approved. Some are detectable by metal detectors (Metal Detectable) Available with UV resistance. Available in Anti Static (Static Dissipative) Available in Jungle or Nautical urethane. Many Applications. For the best in endless round belts and round belting, insist on DuraBelt. Also see: MaterialsAnti-StaticPowered Roller (HT) BeltsLine-shaft Belts Next Product
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Post by wigglinrocks on Aug 8, 2017 17:37:14 GMT -5
Now I just gotta clean up my act Nice vibe Jean. The eccentric is mounted in ball bearings instead of on the motor. Long life design. There are o-ring drive belts made of polyurethane. I had a hard time finding stock sizes. I believe they are made to last. O-rings made for sealing are not designed for drive belts. Maybe Gy Roc uses them. www.durabelt.com/roundoringinfo.phpDuraBelt fabricates resilient endless round belts, (also called round belting, O-ring belts or endless drive belts) for power transmission applications and live roller conveyors, i.e., lineshaft conveyors and powered roller conveyors. Urethane round belts are elastomeric belts, meaning they are designed to stretch, so they do not require a belt tensioner. Key features are: Round Belts, Urethane Belt Round Belts Round Belts urethane belt Lineshaft Round Belt Cross-sections from 1/16" to 3/4", also most metric sizes (2mm to 18mm) and standard O-ring sizes. Any length above 3" cut length (depends on cord cross-section). Durometers: 60A, 70A, 75A, 76A, 80A, 83A, 85A, 88A, 90A, 92A, 95A, 100A, 53D Colors: clear, orange, red, green, blue, light blue, white, yellow, brown, black. Also see Retro-Color process Textures: smooth or rough/matte finish. Economical -- no tooling charge. Best resilience of any elastic material. Tough & durable. Highly resistant to cuts and abrasion. Non-marking. Won't fray. Fits round or V pulleys. Easily cleaned. Resistant to fuels and oils. (Non-Slip Belts) Most are Food Grade USDA/FDA approved. Some are detectable by metal detectors (Metal Detectable) Available with UV resistance. Available in Anti Static (Static Dissipative) Available in Jungle or Nautical urethane. Many Applications. For the best in endless round belts and round belting, insist on DuraBelt. Also see: MaterialsAnti-StaticPowered Roller (HT) BeltsLine-shaft Belts Next Product I think the belts for Gy Rocs are urethane . They are sort of clear yellowish colored , turn black after running for awhile . They do stretch out a bit so you need different belts for high and low speed . Running the belt on the high speed pulley for awhile stretches it enough it slips on the low speed .
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Post by jamesp on Aug 8, 2017 17:54:10 GMT -5
Yep, other than black is likely urethane. Someone did their homework wigglinrocks. The expensive Vibrasonic has the counterbalances driven by the motor. Impressed with that Gy Roc. The Vibrasonic is NOT thrifty on electricity. It uses a big double shafted 1/3 HP turning at a romping 3600 RPM. It's a beast.
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Post by wigglinrocks on Aug 8, 2017 18:09:20 GMT -5
Yep, other than black is likely urethane. Someone did their homework wigglinrocks . The expensive Vibrasonic has the counterbalances driven by the motor. Impressed with that Gy Roc. The Vibrasonic is NOT thrifty on electricity. It uses a big double shafted 1/3 HP turning at a romping 3600 RPM. It's a beast. I get the belts from Kingsley , a little over 5 bucks a piece but they last a long time . Haven't had to replace one since I started storing them in the freezer between uses . I looked at all the other brands before going with Gy Roc . I liked the idea of being able to shift gears and replace parts if necessary . Bowls are cheaper also . One drawback though is the donut bowl , kinda touchy doing even one bigger rock . Really don't want to upsize to the model C .
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Post by jamesp on Aug 8, 2017 18:26:26 GMT -5
Yep, other than black is likely urethane. Someone did their homework wigglinrocks . The expensive Vibrasonic has the counterbalances driven by the motor. Impressed with that Gy Roc. The Vibrasonic is NOT thrifty on electricity. It uses a big double shafted 1/3 HP turning at a romping 3600 RPM. It's a beast. I get the belts from Kingsley , a little over 5 bucks a piece but they last a long time . Haven't had to replace one since I started storing them in the freezer between uses . I looked at all the other brands before going with Gy Roc . I liked the idea of being able to shift gears and replace parts if necessary . Bowls are cheaper also . One drawback though is the donut bowl , kinda touchy doing even one bigger rock . Really don't want to upsize to the model C . Lots of o-ring belts in tumblers. The polyurethane drive o-ring belts dance to a different drummer, tough buggars. everything about the Gy Roc makes sense.
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 8, 2017 18:37:34 GMT -5
Now I just gotta clean up my act I use Iron Out for cleaning old fossils.. grin. What do you use? Low hanging fruit alert...
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Post by wigglinrocks on Aug 8, 2017 19:04:54 GMT -5
I get the belts from Kingsley , a little over 5 bucks a piece but they last a long time . Haven't had to replace one since I started storing them in the freezer between uses . I looked at all the other brands before going with Gy Roc . I liked the idea of being able to shift gears and replace parts if necessary . Bowls are cheaper also . One drawback though is the donut bowl , kinda touchy doing even one bigger rock . Really don't want to upsize to the model C . Lots of o-ring belts in tumblers. The polyurethane drive o-ring belts dance to a different drummer, tough buggars. everything about the Gy Roc makes sense. I think it more tumblers used good belts , customer complaints and bad press would drop off a lot . Not trying to push Gy Roc on anyone but it just works . Had a little learning curve but I don't think more than any other vibe .
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