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Post by Pat on Mar 3, 2018 16:16:09 GMT -5
I use both my saws, 4” and 10”, standing in front of the blade and pushing the rock through. If rock is short enough, I keep the front splash wall up. Always keep the splash guard that is above the blade there. Reservoir is filled to cover the blade about a quarter inch—- just enough to cover the diamond rim. When water is no longer splashing out, I add more water.
I like to see where I am going.
I wear a plastic apron.
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Post by TheRock on Mar 3, 2018 16:19:39 GMT -5
Thanks aDave and Garage Rocker I looked at Randy's Video and I see says the blind Duck! I will just turn the Ole Tile Saw around and give her the 180. Randy what kind of lube do you use in your water or do you just use straight water? Thanks ~Duke
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Post by TheRock on Mar 3, 2018 16:22:48 GMT -5
I use both my saws, 4” and 10”, standing in front of the blade and pushing the rock through. If rock is short enough, I keep the front splash wall up. Always keep the splash guard that is above the blade there. Reservoir is filled to cover the blade about a quarter inch—- just enough to cover the diamond rim. When water is no longer splashing out, I add more water. I like to see where I am going. I wear a plastic apron. Thanks Pat I will have to buy a plastic apron.
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Post by aDave on Mar 3, 2018 17:36:19 GMT -5
Thanks aDave and Garage Rocker I looked at Randy's Video and I see says the blind Duck! I will just turn the Ole Tile Saw around and give her the 180. Randy what kind of lube do you use in your water or do you just use straight water? Thanks ~Duke I know you didn't ask me, but I use water only.
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Post by Bluesky78987 on Mar 3, 2018 20:24:40 GMT -5
You'll want to use oil in the BD10 Duke. Water really wears the blade out fast, even water with additive. I've only tried GemLube, but LarryS tried a whole bunch of different additives and said GemLube increased blade life the most. In the tile saw, water. On my tile saw, I keep the blade guard at around 50% raised. Depends how thick it is and how well you can see past it - it's a real test of stereoscopic vision! You'll figure it out once you start. OH, and on the BD10, you leave the cover on for when you're using the feed, and you have to take it off for hand feeding. I never use the feed (it's geared too slow and the vice sucks). The bd10 doesn't have much of an overspray problem. Sometimes my tummy will get damp but that's about it. I will be wearing an apron when I hand feed with oil (I'm switching to oil), but never did with water. More mess is created when you take your wet rock and set it down somewhere. Although, I'm a bit of a messy klutz. Oh, you're also going to need a couple of rough mesh grinding wheels to cut through when you need to dress your blades, if you don't have some already. And a kitty litter bucket with scoop (clay litter not clumping haha) and a Dawn-water bucket.
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Post by TheRock on Mar 4, 2018 20:30:34 GMT -5
Bluesky78987 Susan, being I never have operated one of these saw's I am as green as green can be. I did a youtube search for Dressing the Diamond Blade on a BD10 and there are a couple video's on overhead Blade type saws but not one like ours. What kind of Wheels do I purchase to dress the blade and do you know of any good instructions that show this? Oh and what is the Kitty litter and Dawn Soap for. To absorb and clean up the oil on the rocks you cut? What kind of oil are you switching to MINERAL? Thanks ~Duke
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Post by Pat on Mar 4, 2018 20:37:36 GMT -5
I think dressing a blade means running the blade through a brick. Susan will know more.
Besides using kitty litter to absorb the oil that remains after cutting the Rick, we dump kitty litter in a pie pan and use it as an annealing pan.
My 10” tile saw runs on water.
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Post by Bluesky78987 on Mar 5, 2018 9:29:39 GMT -5
Yeah, Like Pat says, you just take the grinding wheel and cut through it a couple of times. It re-exposes the diamond on the blade when the blade gets "dull" and the diamonda are glazed over. Somebody else will have to give the background on what exactly is happening when that happens, but cuttin radially in from the edge of the flat grinding wheel (like a pizza cut) works good. I think I had heard about using bricks too, but haven't tried it.
The bucket of kitty litter is to throw your oil-cut slabs into immediately after cutting, to absorb the excess oil. Then, that won't get all the oil off, so you throw them in a bucket of dawn/water for awhile.
I got some mineral oil at Quartzsite to try. The BD10 only needs 0.6 gallons.
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Post by TheRock on Mar 6, 2018 3:08:08 GMT -5
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Post by Bluesky78987 on Mar 6, 2018 10:45:13 GMT -5
NOW you're talking! Looks like a real saw now!
My problem with the clamp is that the top piece can only come down square. Can't go at an angle - not very good for irregular shaped rocks. If you're goign to glue your rock to a piece of wood, it should work fine though. I ended up elongating one of the bolt holes, to make an oval, allowing it to be clamped down at an angle. But then I quit using the vice entirely, and actually had it removed recently.
Nice slabs you made!
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Post by NRG on Mar 6, 2018 11:29:58 GMT -5
I dress my blades with medium grit grinding wheels. A quick cut and new diamond is exposed.
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Post by TheRock on Mar 6, 2018 17:20:38 GMT -5
NOW you're talking! Looks like a real saw now! My problem with the clamp is that the top piece can only come down square. Can't go at an angle - not very good for irregular shaped rocks. If you're goign to glue your rock to a piece of wood, it should work fine though. I ended up elongating one of the bolt holes, to make an oval, allowing it to be clamped down at an angle. But then I quit using the vice entirely, and actually had it removed recently. Nice slabs you made! SUSAN Seems like someone Out there would have come up with a better vise for this saw. The nice thing is Once the rock is clamped in the vice I can Disengage the feed and push with my hand and feed by hand I can re-adjust for another bite all with the cover still on. What I don't like is what you said and the fact that you need longer more rectangular type rocks. There will need to be a way to join them together in order to cut them all up because you run out of clamping surface. Thanks NRG for the comeback on the grinding wheel type. ~Duke
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Post by Bluesky78987 on Mar 6, 2018 18:01:48 GMT -5
NOW you're talking! Looks like a real saw now! My problem with the clamp is that the top piece can only come down square. Can't go at an angle - not very good for irregular shaped rocks. If you're goign to glue your rock to a piece of wood, it should work fine though. I ended up elongating one of the bolt holes, to make an oval, allowing it to be clamped down at an angle. But then I quit using the vice entirely, and actually had it removed recently. Nice slabs you made! SUSAN Seems like someone Out there would have come up with a better vise for this saw. The nice thing is Once the rock is clamped in the vice I can Disengage the feed and push with my hand and feed by hand I can re-adjust for another bite all with the cover still on. What I don't like is what you said and the fact that you need longer more rectangular type rocks. There will need to be a way to join them together in order to cut them all up because you run out of clamping surface. Thanks NRG for the comeback on the grinding wheel type. ~Duke Yeah, seems like. However, as I've learned from my trips down to the BD plant (it's near my house), the owners/designers don't seem to do lapidary. They must be going off of data from distributors or I-don't-know-who. The vice is very narrow too - can't get a wide rock in it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I *think* that you also can't get a 2x4 into it on its flat side. I think it was just shy. How's that for design genius? (Or maybe they've fixed that by now).
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Post by woodman on Mar 6, 2018 18:39:27 GMT -5
NOW you're talking! Looks like a real saw now! My problem with the clamp is that the top piece can only come down square. Can't go at an angle - not very good for irregular shaped rocks. If you're goign to glue your rock to a piece of wood, it should work fine though. I ended up elongating one of the bolt holes, to make an oval, allowing it to be clamped down at an angle. But then I quit using the vice entirely, and actually had it removed recently. Nice slabs you made! SUSAN Seems like someone Out there would have come up with a better vise for this saw. The nice thing is Once the rock is clamped in the vice I can Disengage the feed and push with my hand and feed by hand I can re-adjust for another bite all with the cover still on. What I don't like is what you said and the fact that you need longer more rectangular type rocks. There will need to be a way to join them together in order to cut them all up because you run out of clamping surface. Thanks NRG for the comeback on the grinding wheel type. ~Duke If you are talking about the chunk of thunderegg that you had clamped in the vise and want to cut them, glue them to a piece you have in the saw that you just make a cut on. clean both pieces with degreaser and acetone. Using super glue glue a thin piece of cardboard to the piece that is mounted in the saw and then glue the heel that you want to slice to the cardboard. doing it this was the slabs are all parallel to the last cut. this is the basic idea only on a larger scale. the white piece i glued on was 40 lbs. I sliced it all up and used a hand saw to cut the cardboard teo free the last slab.
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Post by Pat on Mar 6, 2018 18:47:43 GMT -5
My 10" saw had a vise. We modified it so it made more sense. Didn't like it no matter what. Don't use a vise, just hold it with my hands. Wear face mask, apron, ear covers.
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Post by TheRock on Mar 7, 2018 1:25:19 GMT -5
SUSAN Seems like someone Out there would have come up with a better vise for this saw. The nice thing is Once the rock is clamped in the vice I can Disengage the feed and push with my hand and feed by hand I can re-adjust for another bite all with the cover still on. What I don't like is what you said and the fact that you need longer more rectangular type rocks. There will need to be a way to join them together in order to cut them all up because you run out of clamping surface. Thanks NRG for the comeback on the grinding wheel type. ~Duke If you are talking about the chunk of thunderegg that you had clamped in the vise and want to cut them, glue them to a piece you have in the saw that you just make a cut on. clean both pieces with degreaser and acetone. Using super glue glue a thin piece of cardboard to the piece that is mounted in the saw and then glue the heel that you want to slice to the cardboard. doing it this was the slabs are all parallel to the last cut. this is the basic idea only on a larger scale. the white piece i glued on was 40 lbs. I sliced it all up and used a hand saw to cut the cardboard teo free the last slab. Good Info woodman Yeah some are to small to clamp in the vise and reach he blade those will need a different approach. Pat this BD10 uses mineral oil so it is covered while operating keeps things much cleaner keeping the cover in place. Susan is going to mineral oil I think she will agree once she does. ~Duke
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Post by accidentalrockhound on Mar 9, 2018 16:28:30 GMT -5
Nice cuttin' going on there. Nice stuff great shop. Let'um rip. Vibes,tumblers,and saws oh my!
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Post by TheRock on Mar 10, 2018 23:28:47 GMT -5
Nice cuttin' going on there. Nice stuff great shop. Let'um rip. Vibes,tumblers,and saws oh my! Thanks Frank! Spring is just around The Corner and the Machines will be humming! ~Duke
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