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Post by captbob on Dec 26, 2017 22:12:53 GMT -5
Hoo boy, don't know how I missed this one. Prayers headed your way Arlen!
Best wishes for a good prognosis and a HEALTHY New Year.
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Post by Pat on Dec 26, 2017 22:15:54 GMT -5
Sometimes it is best to be in the hospital. Glad to hear you don’t have any blockage. Best wishes tomorrow.
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 26, 2017 22:42:26 GMT -5
Well, I guess the biggest worry is over. No clogged pipes! That's awesome! Hang in there, you'll be out in no time.
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Post by youp50 on Dec 26, 2017 22:58:05 GMT -5
No blockage is 'Glad Tidings'. Many people I know do just fine with a pace maker.
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Post by 1dave on Dec 27, 2017 6:13:59 GMT -5
I got a zipper and leather flutter valve in 2012, so I know you will make it back to your fun shop.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 11:38:34 GMT -5
Patience and positive thoughts. Ugly situation. All the best!
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Post by geezer on Dec 27, 2017 13:49:28 GMT -5
Didn't catch this one till just now. Prayers and "positive waves" heading your way!
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Post by grizman on Dec 27, 2017 23:55:50 GMT -5
First time on the computer since the 23rd. Sorry to hear that you had to spend Christmas in the hospital...not knowing for sure why. Now you know that you don't have any blockage so that is a positive. Here's wishing you a late Merry Christmas, and hoping you'll be all fixed up and ready to hit the New Year good as new. God Bless, and watch over you!
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Post by radio on Dec 28, 2017 12:09:23 GMT -5
Got home last evening. Several things combined to kick my ass. Fisrt, they found I have a bundle branch block so some times my heat flutters . I have been drinking way too much strong coffee, plus have been stressed getting orders out in time for Christmas. The overload of caffeine combined with the stress affected the already weird heart functions and it finally let me know it wasn't happy. They also suspect my sleep apnea contributed to the problems. I've long suspected my nrw BiPap wasnt functioning properly , but the sleep center couldnt find a problem. The really good news is that I have zero crud in the heart arteries. That is amazing considering all the fried foods I have eaten all my life!!! Cut out most of the caffeine and reduce stress should get me back on track soon. The bundle block is no big deal by its self, but some life style changes are in order so it doesn't cause a repeat of what just happened
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Post by Pat on Dec 28, 2017 12:12:56 GMT -5
That is a lot of good news! Happy to hear. Happy New Year!
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 28, 2017 14:43:42 GMT -5
Good to hear! Isn't it nice to know and not have to worry? Turns out you're healthier than you thought. Win/win. Yay!
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Post by grizman on Dec 28, 2017 15:42:35 GMT -5
Great news! See, I told ya you'd be ready to go for the New Year!
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Post by youp50 on Dec 28, 2017 15:46:00 GMT -5
Good news!
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Post by vegasjames on Dec 28, 2017 17:02:22 GMT -5
Still in limbo and in the hospital. The Angiogram showed zero blockage in any arteries which was a huge surprise to me!!!! I've eaten fatty foods, fried foods and anything I wanted all my life, so if anyone should have clogged pipes, it should be ME! They wanted me to stay tonight and see an Electrocardioligist tomorrow to figure out the fluttering, extreme variable and Often very low heart rate. Pretty sure a pacemaker is on tap soon. Good news. Cholesterol build up though is not from saturated fats or even high cholesterol. The later is why 50% of heart attacks occur in people with normal to low cholesterol levels. The plaque formation is the result of arterial inflammation, which has numerous causes (free radicals, high blood pressure, insulin damage, xanthine oxidase from dairy, high homocysteine due to decreased methylation or low thyroid, etc.). The cholesterol, which is a healing agent, floods the damaged area as a "patch". If the source of the inflammation continues so does the plaque formation. Low heart rate is often the result of hypothyroidism, which is frequently missed in lab tests for a couple of reasons. This can also lead to arrhythmias due to decreased oxygenation to the heart muscle setting up ectopic pacemakers (heart cells that try to act like nodes). Heart rate can vary for the same reason or fluctuations in the adrenal output of epinephrine. But that generally leads to increases in heart rate. Electrical blockages they would have seen in the ECG. If you get a chance I recommend looking up basal body temperature and doing readings for at least a week. Along with symptoms of hypothyroidism (weight gain sometimes, cold hands and feet, fatigue, constipation, cold intolerance, hair loss-not male pattern baldness, cold intolerance, dry hair and skin, etc) this is a much more effective method of detecting cases of hypothyroidism. Won't hurt anything. Have a fun time with your Christmas when you get out of the hospital.
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Post by radio on Dec 28, 2017 18:08:54 GMT -5
Still in limbo and in the hospital. The Angiogram showed zero blockage in any arteries which was a huge surprise to me!!!! I've eaten fatty foods, fried foods and anything I wanted all my life, so if anyone should have clogged pipes, it should be ME! They wanted me to stay tonight and see an Electrocardioligist tomorrow to figure out the fluttering, extreme variable and Often very low heart rate. Pretty sure a pacemaker is on tap soon. Good news. Cholesterol build up though is not from saturated fats or even high cholesterol. The later is why 50% of heart attacks occur in people with normal to low cholesterol levels. The plaque formation is the result of arterial inflammation, which has numerous causes (free radicals, high blood pressure, insulin damage, xanthine oxidase from dairy, high homocysteine due to decreased methylation or low thyroid, etc.). The cholesterol, which is a healing agent, floods the damaged area as a "patch". If the source of the inflammation continues so does the plaque formation. Low heart rate is often the result of hypothyroidism, which is frequently missed in lab tests for a couple of reasons. This can also lead to arrhythmias due to decreased oxygenation to the heart muscle setting up ectopic pacemakers (heart cells that try to act like nodes). Heart rate can vary for the same reason or fluctuations in the adrenal output of epinephrine. But that generally leads to increases in heart rate. Electrical blockages they would have seen in the ECG. If you get a chance I recommend looking up basal body temperature and doing readings for at least a week. Along with symptoms of hypothyroidism (weight gain sometimes, cold hands and feet, fatigue, constipation, cold intolerance, hair loss-not male pattern baldness, cold intolerance, dry hair and skin, etc) this is a much more effective method of detecting cases of hypothyroidism. Won't hurt anything. Have a fun time with your Christmas when you get out of the hospital. Iv'e been on thyroid meds for about 3 years . labs a month ago were perfect as was all the tsh tests while in the hospital.
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Post by accidentalrockhound on Dec 28, 2017 22:04:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the information. glad You are home time to take it easy i hope. I am trying to make better choices for myself as well. It is crazy to think of how invinsable we once where. My brother and i talk about some of them day's. Happy New year good Sir.
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Post by vegasjames on Dec 28, 2017 22:11:10 GMT -5
Good news. Cholesterol build up though is not from saturated fats or even high cholesterol. The later is why 50% of heart attacks occur in people with normal to low cholesterol levels. The plaque formation is the result of arterial inflammation, which has numerous causes (free radicals, high blood pressure, insulin damage, xanthine oxidase from dairy, high homocysteine due to decreased methylation or low thyroid, etc.). The cholesterol, which is a healing agent, floods the damaged area as a "patch". If the source of the inflammation continues so does the plaque formation. Low heart rate is often the result of hypothyroidism, which is frequently missed in lab tests for a couple of reasons. This can also lead to arrhythmias due to decreased oxygenation to the heart muscle setting up ectopic pacemakers (heart cells that try to act like nodes). Heart rate can vary for the same reason or fluctuations in the adrenal output of epinephrine. But that generally leads to increases in heart rate. Electrical blockages they would have seen in the ECG. If you get a chance I recommend looking up basal body temperature and doing readings for at least a week. Along with symptoms of hypothyroidism (weight gain sometimes, cold hands and feet, fatigue, constipation, cold intolerance, hair loss-not male pattern baldness, cold intolerance, dry hair and skin, etc) this is a much more effective method of detecting cases of hypothyroidism. Won't hurt anything. Have a fun time with your Christmas when you get out of the hospital. Iv'e been on thyroid meds for about 3 years . labs a month ago were perfect as was all the tsh tests while in the hospital. I just got done posting this on the inaccuracies of thyroid testing in another thread: 3 hours ago rockjunquie said: "vegasjames - changing the conversation for a minute. I have been wanting to ask you what you think of the value range (low to high) given for TSH Thyroid blood tests. I read some info a few years back, but I have forgotten it- but it is something to the effect that the tests are almost useless because the value range is so skewed away from the actual normal values which are much more variable than the test accounts for. I hope I said that right. I have written extensively on the problems with thyroid tests." Sounds like the one problem you are referring to the fact that the thyroid function tests are inaccurate in part due to sudden fluctuations in thyroid hormone levels. More specifically when a person is under stress, emotional or physical (pain), there is a higher metabolic demand so thyroid hormone levels increase TEMPORARILY to met that demand. When you are racing to see the doctor, then other things that can lead to stress such as the anxiety of the needle, etc. this will all increase your thyroid hormone levels temporarily. So let's say someone is slightly hypothyroid. That stress I mentioned will temporarily raise the thyroid hormone levels, which can push levels up in to the normal range. Then they go back home kick back and relax and their levels drop back down to subnormal levels but they think their thyroid is fine based on the test during that temporary rise. There are other tests that can also test inaccurate due to stress or even stimulants like caffeine, which I bring up because they tell people they can have coffee before a lab test. Stress and caffeine both elevate cholesterol and blood pressure, and caffeine also raises PSA counts in men. The second problem with thyroid tests that lead to the common missing of hypothyroidism is the fact that chronic stress can elevate reverse triiodothyronine (rT3) levels. I don't think most doctors have a clue what rT3 is and it is rarely tested for. The thyroid produces two major metabolic hormones. tetraiodothyronine (T4, thyroxine) and triiodothyronine (T3). Of these the T3 is the most biologically active and if everything is in proper working order is produced from T4. The other hormones tested for thyroid releasing hormone (TRH) also known as thyrotropin-releasing factor (TRF) or thyroliberin and thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH), also known as thyrotropin are not thyroid hormones. TRH is produced by the hypothalamus and tells the pituitary to release TSH. The TSH in turn tells the thyroid to produce its metabolic thyroid hormones. The problem with elevated rT3 levels is that the rT3 is biologically inactive. Its structure though allows the rT3 to bind to T3 receptors though, which prevents binding of actual T3 to the receptors. If the T3 cannot bind to the receptors it has no effect on the body. This is very similar to type 2 diabetes in which the person produces normal to above normal levels of insulin, but they cannot utilize their own insulin. In short a person can have normal TSH, T3 and T4 and still be hypothyroid for the reasons stated above. This is why basal body temperature readings in conjunction with hypothyroid symptoms are a significantly better indicator of hypothyroidism than lab tests. Read more: forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/81477/joint-pain?page=4#ixzz52cF3ffgG
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