dshanpnw
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Post by dshanpnw on Oct 13, 2022 7:09:01 GMT -5
You don’t look new to me! Very nice! Inside curves snd all! Welcome from California. Thank you Pat, you're very kind. I started with lots of ovals before tackling the irregularly shaped ones. I wanted to make those after seeing photos of them on here. Now I have to figure out how to make them into pendants. Any ideas would be much appreciated. |
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dshanpnw
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Post by dshanpnw on Oct 13, 2022 7:27:44 GMT -5
You already look like an old pro! Great job on those cabs.  well, thank you hummingbirdstones. They took me a long time to make. On average I would say I spend up to 2-3 hours on one depending on the type of material. I always find defects after I get to the finer grit wheels and have to go back. I'm getting better at catching the scratches earlier and how to get rid of them better. Sometimes I have to just stop out of frustration and leave it until the next day. Also, I think you probably noticed the big hole in the first photo of the flint ridge flint, about the middle upper left. That was not there when I started and I didn't want to try and grind it out because that material was just so nice. I find that happens quite a lot with certain types of rock, like spiderweb rhyolite, Biggs japser, and so on. Is it acceptable to have small defects in the finer material, or should I try to work it out or discard it altogether? Thanks again for the positive feedback. |
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dshanpnw
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Post by dshanpnw on Oct 13, 2022 7:39:39 GMT -5
You may be new to cabbing pal Butte hard to believe you fell out of a cab Yesterday ha Those are some hard shines Done really fine Thank you @mohs, that means a lot to me. I hope to improve and post many more photos. All the compliments are attributed to the folks who have posted their work on here. I never thought I would be cabbing. I actually started by making flats, cutting and polishing specimen rocks, like end cuts on petrified wood and agates. Then I discovered the beauty of slabs. Then I ventured into the, creating cabochons, portal and saw all the beautiful cabs. That's where I found the inspiration. Have a wonderful day! |
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dshanpnw
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Post by dshanpnw on Oct 13, 2022 7:42:09 GMT -5
I'm pretty new to the world of cabbing. Without further adieu:
#1) Flint Ridge Flint
#2) Biggs Jasper
#3 Unknown Jasper
#4) Maury Mountain Moss Agate
#5) Plume Agate?
#6) Dino Bone
Those are totally awesome Thanks so much nursetumbler, I think my favorite out of all these is the flint ridge flint, the very first photo is my absolute fav though, except for that giant hole you can see. Have a great day! |
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Post by mohs on Oct 13, 2022 9:10:05 GMT -5
You may be new to cabbing pal Butte hard to believe you fell out of a cab Yesterday ha Those are some hard shines Done really fine Thank you @mohs, that means a lot to me. I hope to improve and post many more photos. All the compliments are attributed to the folks who have posted their work on here. I never thought I would be cabbing. I actually started by making flats, cutting and polishing specimen rocks, like end cuts on petrified wood and agates. Then I discovered the beauty of slabs. Then I ventured into the, creating cabochons, portal and saw all the beautiful cabs. That's where I found the inspiration. Have a wonderful day! Hi Doug did you get a cabbing machine ? whatever your using - its working well its a really great hobby to try all facets keep on! Ed dshanpnw Doug see you answered the question about he cabbing machine earlier know you'll enjoy manipulating a stone along a spinning wheel to bring out form & shine good stuff  |
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rockbrain
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Post by rockbrain on Oct 13, 2022 9:24:48 GMT -5
I don't think that's the correct way to do an inside curve. Kudos for doing it that way. If you used the correct method you couldn't get a curve like that. Most of us are using the face of the wheel and that limits you from going any tighter than the curve of your wheel. You're doing the same thing I do when I cab a heart. I use the edge of the wheel for the cleavage area of the dome.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Oct 13, 2022 10:35:52 GMT -5
You already look like an old pro! Great job on those cabs. well, thank you hummingbirdstones . They took me a long time to make. On average I would say I spend up to 2-3 hours on one depending on the type of material. I always find defects after I get to the finer grit wheels and have to go back. I'm getting better at catching the scratches earlier and how to get rid of them better. Sometimes I have to just stop out of frustration and leave it until the next day. Also, I think you probably noticed the big hole in the first photo of the flint ridge flint, about the middle upper left. That was not there when I started and I didn't want to try and grind it out because that material was just so nice. I find that happens quite a lot with certain types of rock, like spiderweb rhyolite, Biggs japser, and so on. Is it acceptable to have small defects in the finer material, or should I try to work it out or discard it altogether? Thanks again for the positive feedback. Small vugs pop up sometimes when you're grinding on a rock. Nothing you can do about it unless you have x-ray vision. Your giant hole doesn't look all that big to me and at least to my eye, does not distract from the stone. Whether it's acceptable or not depends on the person cutting the stone and the person who may purchase it. I really don't think there's a right or wrong to that question. It's all personal preference. It takes me longer than 2 or 3 hours to cut a stone. I'm the slowest cab cutter on the face of the earth!  With regard to that lovely swoop, I don't think there's a right way or a wrong way to do it. It's whatever works for you. If you can do that on the edge of your wheel and you're comfortable doing it that, why not? You can't get that deep of an inside curve using just the face of the wheel, so why not? I think you did an awesome sauce job!  |
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nursetumbler
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Post by nursetumbler on Oct 13, 2022 19:57:25 GMT -5
Thanks so much nursetumbler, I think my favorite out of all these is the flint ridge flint, the very first photo is my absolute fav though, except for that giant hole you can see. Have a great day! Those are totally awesome. Going to get saw going Saturday and Sunday, make me some slabs and pretend I know what I am doing and make a cab. If you know of anyone that would like some out there let me know, I still have A LOT. |
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nursetumbler
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Post by nursetumbler on Oct 13, 2022 20:01:03 GMT -5
You already look like an old pro! Great job on those cabs.  well, thank you hummingbirdstones. They took me a long time to make. On average I would say I spend up to 2-3 hours on one depending on the type of material. I always find defects after I get to the finer grit wheels and have to go back. I'm getting better at catching the scratches earlier and how to get rid of them better. Sometimes I have to just stop out of frustration and leave it until the next day. Also, I think you probably noticed the big hole in the first photo of the flint ridge flint, about the middle upper left. That was not there when I started and I didn't want to try and grind it out because that material was just so nice. I find that happens quite a lot with certain types of rock, like spiderweb rhyolite, Biggs japser, and so on. Is it acceptable to have small defects in the finer material, or should I try to work it out or discard it altogether? Thanks again for the positive feedback. If you decide to discard it I will buy it from you. Bet there are crystals in there. Somehow I picked up a lot with crystals in vugs. |
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dshanpnw
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Post by dshanpnw on Oct 13, 2022 21:12:29 GMT -5
I don't think that's the correct way to do an inside curve. Kudos for doing it that way. If you used the correct method you couldn't get a curve like that. Most of us are using the face of the wheel and that limits you from going any tighter than the curve of your wheel. You're doing the same thing I do when I cab a heart. I use the edge of the wheel for the cleavage area of the dome. Thanks. I have done a few using the curve of the wheel as it fit perfectly into the template design. I prefer that method. Thanks again. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Oct 14, 2022 10:12:44 GMT -5
Your polish on these is OUTSTANDING! These really do look SO amazing! Fantastic job on these!! I would echo rockbrain 's question...what size wheels are you using. The inside swoop is very pronounced. If you're using a 6" wheel...like I think you are, can you try and describe how you're working that inside swoop?? Thanks, jasoninsd . I'm using the KN 6" cabber. I'm not sure if I did the inside swoop the right way, so please let me know if there is a better method. I got the bulk of the shaping of it done on the outer edges of the 80 grit steel wheel and found that left abrupt edges and small grooves. Then I just smoothed those out on the edges of the 280 grit Nova wheel because it is much softer. Getting the girdle done that way was difficult. The compliments and positive words really mean a lot to me. Makes me feel I am on the right track. Sorry rockbrain...I have to disagree with what you said. I don't believe dshanpnw is doing it "incorrectly" at all. The only incorrect way would be a way in which the desired result wasn't reached. In this case, the desired result was definitely acquired. (Not trying to sound like a snit...I'm just in awe Doug was able to make this work...but he did!) Doug, my hat's off to you for making this work! When I first started trying inside curves, this is the method I tried - as I had NO clue how to do it. Once I figured out the diagonal method, I assumed that was the "proper" way to do it. The reason I stopped doing it on the edge of the wheel like you do, is because of the "small grooves" you're describing. Serious kudos to you for making it work. I'm seriously impressed! The "diagonal method" is much faster and doesn't result in any of the "grooves". HOWEVER, you can't get a swoop any more concave than the curvature of the wheel. |
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rockbrain
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Post by rockbrain on Oct 14, 2022 15:01:59 GMT -5
Sorry rockbrain ...I have to disagree with what you said. I don't believe dshanpnw is doing it "incorrectly" at all. The only incorrect way would be a way in which the desired result wasn't reached. In this case, the desired result was definitely acquired. (Not trying to sound like a snit...I'm just in awe Doug was able to make this work...but he did!) That was my attempt at sarcasm. That's why I gave him kudos for doing it wrong. I don't think I even know the "right" way on a lot of this since I never had any training. I do my initial 45 deg grind to the girdle line to start the dome and then work a while more forming the dome with the cab held in the vertical postion. I'm pretty sure that's the "wrong way" too! |
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Post by jasoninsd on Oct 14, 2022 17:03:41 GMT -5
Sorry rockbrain ...I have to disagree with what you said. I don't believe dshanpnw is doing it "incorrectly" at all. The only incorrect way would be a way in which the desired result wasn't reached. In this case, the desired result was definitely acquired. (Not trying to sound like a snit...I'm just in awe Doug was able to make this work...but he did!) That was my attempt at sarcasm. That's why I gave him kudos for doing it wrong. I don't think I even know the "right" way on a lot of this since I never had any training. I do my initial 45 deg grind to the girdle line to start the dome and then work a while more forming the dome with the cab held in the vertical postion. I'm pretty sure that's the "wrong way" too! Okay...thank gawd. I totally read that wrong. Sorry...  |
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dshanpnw
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Post by dshanpnw on Nov 23, 2022 19:18:15 GMT -5
Those are looking great! That's quite a swoop on #3. What size wheel was that done on? Hello rockbrain, I took your advice about the inside swoops fitting the 6" wheel, so I redid them, and they look so much better. |
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Post by rockbrain on Nov 23, 2022 19:57:26 GMT -5
Glad it worked out for you dshanpnw. I thought they looked pretty darn good to start with. You didn't get as quite as tight of a curve did you? I'd like to play with some 4" wheels sometime just for the inside curves. |
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khara
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Post by khara on Nov 23, 2022 23:21:43 GMT -5
Those are looking great! That's quite a swoop on #3. What size wheel was that done on? Hello rockbrain, I took your advice about the inside swoops fitting the 6" wheel, so I redid them, and they look so much better. Do you have a picture or two? |
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dshanpnw
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Post by dshanpnw on Nov 26, 2022 8:35:45 GMT -5
I don't think that's the correct way to do an inside curve. Kudos for doing it that way. If you used the correct method you couldn't get a curve like that. Most of us are using the face of the wheel and that limits you from going any tighter than the curve of your wheel. You're doing the same thing I do when I cab a heart. I use the edge of the wheel for the cleavage area of the dome. , You be right, thanks for pointing that out about using the face of the wheel. Great lesson learned. That's how I'm doing them now and they look a lot better and are much more easier to work with. I do a lot of hearts. |
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Post by susand24224 on Nov 27, 2022 2:47:18 GMT -5
What a great job you've done--I've come to your celebration party a bit late, but every bit as enthusiastic. Your shapes are great, your domes couldn't be better, girdles are fine and that inside curve, wow! I work my proverbial tail off every time I do one of those and I've been doing it for years. My head is spinning wondering what you will do for your encore. Did I mention the polish? Superb!
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Post by Starguy on Nov 27, 2022 12:02:22 GMT -5
Great looking cabs
Thanks for showing.
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stewdogg
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Post by stewdogg on Nov 27, 2022 12:02:22 GMT -5
I don't think that's the correct way to do an inside curve. Kudos for doing it that way. If you used the correct method you couldn't get a curve like that. Most of us are using the face of the wheel and that limits you from going any tighter than the curve of your wheel. You're doing the same thing I do when I cab a heart. I use the edge of the wheel for the cleavage area of the dome. , You be right, thanks for pointing that out about using the face of the wheel. Great lesson learned. That's how I'm doing them now and they look a lot better and are much more easier to work with. I do a lot of hearts. Awesome work on the cabs dshanpnw! I will (hopefully) be putting a cabbing machine together this winter and trying my hand at these as well... gotta see if there's other natural talent (there's not) around here aside from the rock savants that are showing their talents at RTH. I see you say you've made a lot of hearts and other inside swoops, but I'm having trouble finding the posts with pictures of them...  |
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