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Post by vegasjames on Nov 1, 2022 14:21:23 GMT -5
OK, a little experimenting yesterday.
Boiling water did nothing.
An 1 1/2 hr in the freezer and just froze it solid with no way to get it out (duh !)
So I thought I'd heat up the dop station & make a cooper wire handle, as Rockoonz suggested & then put it back in the freezer overnight.
BUT then reason hit me- I had this handle melted into the wax,
so pulled out the most of it with the handle, and scraped it out with a wooden tongue depressor, no freezer necessary.
Next time I might try the freezer thing, just for science & all , but for now I can't say if it would work or not.
I still have to clean up the rim I guess with some alcohol or acetone.
Otherwise I'm ready for my new wax, that shipped yesterday .
Thanks for everyone's input (and concern mohs  ), Patty
I was not thinking along the lines of boiling water as the wax will cool the water too soon. I was thinking if most the wax was dug out to add the water to the pot then heat the pot so the wax underneath the water will melt and hopefully float. I have never worked with dop wax and so I am not familiar with its properties compared to other waxes.
Couple other possibilities someone can try.
One would be, if the wax is fluid when heated could you simply turn the pot upside down with maybe some small tiles or something to keep the rim up and plug it it so the melted wax can simply run out?
Or possibly melt the max and add some other oil like a mineral oil or vegetable oil to and mix to soften up the wax. I have done with other waxes such as beeswax.
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Post by mohs on Nov 1, 2022 14:28:37 GMT -5
 gravity and slippery loosener Brilliant ! become more more necessary as we get older to !
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Post by mohs on Nov 1, 2022 14:29:07 GMT -5
gravity and slippery loosener Brilliant ! become more more necessary as we get older to !
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Post by vegasjames on Nov 1, 2022 14:30:07 GMT -5
o the paraffin solution  does make one wonder why they can;t make a nonstick fop surface kind of like stoneware pans another entrepreneurial idea,,, m  stky Nonstick coatings do not hold hold up very well. Teflon tends to peel and is easily scratched. The new ceramic pans they advertise on the informercials if you read the reviews there are a lot of complaints about losing their non-stick properties in a month or so.
If you want to experiment though you could go to a thrift store and get an old non-stick muffin tin and melt some dop wax in one to see if it sticks or not.
Maybe a better option would be something like aluminum or other metal liners for heat transference that can simply be popped out and replaced or heated up in the over or other heat source upside down to melt the old wax out so they can be reused.
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Post by mohs on Nov 1, 2022 14:36:58 GMT -5
yep I've gone through many a induction non stick pans hey I could try using one of those old pans! that an experiment I can do quick ! If i can find my dop wax ha I'm currently trying to do a clean out of my room Everything must go ! Hate letting the rock machinery go butte i think its time as there isn't much of that left....mostly and Vegas Jamese non stick cupcake cups  |
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Post by liveoak on Nov 6, 2022 11:03:53 GMT -5
Thought I'd give an update on the wax.
So my old wax (actually about 1 year old) as I purchased it with my new dop station last Dec.
took a full hour to heat up enough to use.
New wax I just purchased from Hitech diamond is warm enough in 15 minutes.
Significant difference !
My old wax must have been on a shelf for a long time.
Patty
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Post by Rockoonz on Nov 6, 2022 11:33:26 GMT -5
Thought I'd give an update on the wax.
So my old wax (actually about 1 year old) as I purchased it with my new dop station last Dec.
took a full hour to heat up enough to use.
New wax I just purchased from Hitech diamond is warm enough in 15 minutes.
Significant difference !
My old wax must have been on a shelf for a long time. Patty
There are different waxes for different purposes, with different melt points. In my experience the green wax was preferrable for cabochons. There are also additives that make the wax more sticky that are lost over time and may increase the melt time. It's been so long since I used wax that I have forgotten all those details. What I do remember is that we tried to keep a minimum amount in the pot and there was an upside down old steam iron in a wooden holder to warm up the preforms on and we put a tiny chip of fresh wax on the preform so we would know when it was hot enough to dop. We also had a thick slab of some kind of reject material on the table top to act as a heat sink to cool the preform down and get it ready to use more quickly. |
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Post by liveoak on Nov 6, 2022 12:31:42 GMT -5
I like the slab idea for cool down, thanks for that idea Lee. But,I should have added Rockoonz, both waxes were sold as the standard 150 degree melt green wax. Which is why I have to assume it was pretty old. Thanks, Patty |
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