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Post by rockpickerforever on Nov 13, 2022 19:00:35 GMT -5
see fouquieria splendens or Ocotillo
I've got several ocotillos growing in my yard, they have even bloomed, set seeds, and the seeds have now grown into several more plants, over the years. They are so well liked here, where they can thrive in our climate, that many peopla have added then to their xerophytic landscapes. They are commonly sold in some native plant nurseries, and seeds can be purchased for them online. The biggest problem here with many cactus, is too much rain. I had a potted 1.5 foot tall Saguaro cactus, purchased from the cactus people that used to sell at Quartzsite many years ago. It did well for five or six years, until we had a storm that dropped too much wetness on it, and it croaked. From the same people, I also have a Cordon (think Mexican saguaro) in a pot, it's doing well, about 6 feet tall. At least with it still in the pot, I can wrap a rain shield around the base to keep it from getting too much precip.
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Post by mohs on Nov 13, 2022 19:11:31 GMT -5
I recall a small bottle of liquid parents had in the bathroom chest was there for years I take the cap off and smell it had a pleasant odor geez that stuff tasted like schist! that bottle may still be there ha someone will have to comment i knhs nothing.... this stuff in my parent bathroom chest wasn;t castor oil it dark thick syrupy liquid I used to know what it was no one left to ask anymore but it may dawn on my brilliancy
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Post by vegasjames on Nov 13, 2022 19:22:14 GMT -5
see fouquieria splendens or Ocotillo
I've got several ocotillos growing in my yard, they have even bloomed, set seeds, and the seeds have now grown into several more plants, over the years. They are so well liked here, where they can thrive in our climate, that many peopla have added then to their xerophytic landscapes. They are commonly sold in some native plant nurseries, and seeds can be purchased for them online. The biggest problem here with many cactus, is too much rain. I had a potted 1.5 foot tall Saguaro cactus, purchased from the cactus people that used to sell at Quartzsite many years ago. It did well for five or six years, until we had a storm that dropped too much wetness on it, and it croaked. From the same people, I also have a Cordon (think Mexican saguaro) in a pot, it's doing well, about 6 feet tall. At least with it still in the pot, I can wrap a rain shield around the base to keep it from getting too much precip. I used to have a Madagascar ocotillo. Beautiful plant with a white bark nicely contrasted by the green leaves.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Nov 13, 2022 19:30:07 GMT -5
Thank you, James vegasjamesWhen I see a plant I am not familiar with, I am pretty good at finding out what it is. But, as for medicinal properties, I don't even attempt to use plants for anything other than to grow them to eat them, or just to look at them, lol. I bow to your expertise on such matters! I have used cough drops with slippery elm before (from the store). I also like horehound cough drops. That's about the extent of my plant based "treatments."
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Post by rockpickerforever on Nov 13, 2022 19:33:21 GMT -5
vegasjamesI have a tall, multitrunked Alluadia in my front yard. They are beautiful plants!
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Post by mohs on Nov 13, 2022 20:07:07 GMT -5
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Post by Rockoonz on Nov 15, 2022 11:51:18 GMT -5
Well, this thread has taken a rather crappy turn, much like the elections. vegasjames rockpickerforever mohs one of my first visits to a nursery in the PHX valley had me wondering why people would pay money for a bundle of dead sticks. Elizabeth agreed at the time, but it appears that now I may be digging a new hole on the yard to add a native ocotillo, soon as I find out where it's legal to dig one up for transplant. They are striking when they bloom for sure, and I am reaching the age where a little prostate support is a good thing. Maybe I'll ferment something and distill my own alcohol, but just for the tinctures, right?
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Post by mohs on Nov 15, 2022 13:23:49 GMT -5
hi Lee you got me wondering about that Cascara Laxative ? anyone knows if that is a sweet smelling dark thick syrup concoction? that is before you ingest it ha sorry your disappointed in election results what's new? ha ha butte we did dump a bad turd of an idea as far as policy goes ? yeah its going to take a lot slippery loosener to digest
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Post by mohs on Nov 15, 2022 13:27:54 GMT -5
Well, this thread has taken a rather crappy turn, much like the elections. vegasjames rockpickerforever mohs one of my first visits to a nursery in the PHX valley had me wondering why people would pay money for a bundle of dead sticks. Elizabeth agreed at the time, but it appears that now I may be digging a new hole on the yard to add a native ocotillo, soon as I find out where it's legal to dig one up for transplant. They are striking when they bloom for sure, and I am reaching the age where a little prostate support is a good thing. Maybe I'll ferment something and distill my own alcohol, but just for the tinctures, right? That interesting finding a place to harvest an Ocotillio I helped some folks cut a Century Plant stalk to make a didgeridoo ,,,
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Post by rockpickerforever on Nov 15, 2022 15:04:57 GMT -5
Rockoonz , They are very easy to grow from seed. Ocotillo (Fouquieria splendens), packet of 20 seeds $3.95 Strictly Medicinal Seeds
Don't know about AZ, but in California it is pretty much illegal to remove any native plant from the wild. For years, the wild growing Saguaro in AZ have been pilfered for ultimate installation in personal yards. They take a long time to grow to substantial size, there is a large black market for them. Ocotillos grow much more quickly, but they still take a while to get huge. It would be smart for the state to set aside certain ocotillo growing areas, where they could permit capable persons to harvest plant parts, "not to kill or remove the plants but to do a sustainable harvest on the bark." Sort of like they allow fisheries for things like abalone, scallops, etc. SUSTAINABLE is the key!!!
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Post by parfive on Nov 15, 2022 16:21:48 GMT -5
You know what ain’t sustainable? . . . planet earth.* Eight billion today. * planet will be fine, YMMV
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 15, 2022 16:31:01 GMT -5
You know what ain’t sustainable? . . . planet earth.* Eight billion today. * planet will be fine, YMMV Right on cue.
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Post by vegasjames on Nov 15, 2022 19:33:30 GMT -5
Well, this thread has taken a rather crappy turn, much like the elections. vegasjames rockpickerforever mohs one of my first visits to a nursery in the PHX valley had me wondering why people would pay money for a bundle of dead sticks. Elizabeth agreed at the time, but it appears that now I may be digging a new hole on the yard to add a native ocotillo, soon as I find out where it's legal to dig one up for transplant. They are striking when they bloom for sure, and I am reaching the age where a little prostate support is a good thing. Maybe I'll ferment something and distill my own alcohol, but just for the tinctures, right? Unless on private land and with permission it is illegal to harvest desert plants. Always though this was a bit silly since you cannot go dig up a Yucca for example as they are protected, but a builder can bulldoze hundreds of them killing them instead of relocating them to build houses.
As for prostate, the best herbs would be jiaogulan (Gynostemma), nettle leaf, licorice root and pollen.
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Post by mohs on Nov 15, 2022 19:46:10 GMT -5
agree that that the population is out of control to sustain the standard of living people demand & technology as allowed
And if ya can’t have technological industrial growth To make outrageous wealth for a small percentage
Then there only one known historical solution
then progress & greed can begin Again....
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Post by Rockoonz on Nov 15, 2022 23:55:38 GMT -5
rockpickerforever we got 3 blue gum eucalyptus saplings from strictly medicinal, one was killed en route related to their packaging and the other 2 failed to thrive and only lasted a few months. All our desert willows are from seeds gathered by Elizabeth and she has done well that way. Too late for the ocotillo this year but we'll have to get some next year, neighbors have some and we have been giving them plants and the wire mesh gopher stoppers she makes.
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Post by mohs on Nov 16, 2022 0:06:34 GMT -5
Ya know Lee I was getting my Eucalyptus confused w/ Cottonwood. You straighten me out some where in Oregon, I think Might have been Vada. A bare basin land that is. Ha ha
Eucy in Witt will rock!
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Post by rockpickerforever on Nov 16, 2022 0:38:53 GMT -5
rockpickerforever we got 3 blue gum eucalyptus saplings from strictly medicinal, one was killed en route related to their packaging and the other 2 failed to thrive and only lasted a few months. All our desert willows are from seeds gathered by Elizabeth and she has done well that way. Too late for the ocotillo this year but we'll have to get some next year, neighbors have some and we have been giving them plants and the wire mesh gopher stoppers she makes. Rockoonz We have a desert willow in our yard that grew from seed that came home in some dirt when we went prospecting up in the Laguna Mountains a few years ago. They are nice looking plants, they were widely used by the Kumeyaay Native Americans for all kinds of things!
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