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Post by 1dave on Mar 16, 2023 14:37:02 GMT -5
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Post by 1dave on Mar 16, 2023 14:38:18 GMT -5
This is an hour and a half long -
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Post by 1dave on Mar 16, 2023 14:40:26 GMT -5
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Post by Rockoonz on Mar 16, 2023 16:17:42 GMT -5
Not ready for 1.5h videos but the thing that is for sure is the connections between use of statins and the higher occurrences of dementia type disorders, I assume the ketogenic aspect relates to that.
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Post by opalpyrexia on Mar 16, 2023 17:50:24 GMT -5
I think that your thread title is too strong regarding causation. I skimmed a couple of of sites and technical abstracts (Google Scholar) concerning the relationship between schizophrenia and ketogenic metabolic diets. There is definitely a relationship, but I believe that the primary one may be therapeutic due to the latter, and not a trigger or cause. Regardless, it's a very interesting emerging topic that is driving current research. I hope that it has some answers and benefits.
I am not an MD. But I am the parent of a child who was diagnosed with schizophrenia when he was 13. It is a cruel, devastating illness that I wouldn't wish for anyone, or for any family. We have no family history of schizophrenia. His is directly attributable to his extremely difficult birth, one in which I nearly lost them both. Two more doctors came running down the hall and the three of them with the nurses saved their lives.
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Post by amygdule on Mar 16, 2023 18:49:21 GMT -5
I always thought Women were Neurotic Because they like to Paint their nails Then huff acetone After they want To remove it...
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Post by amygdule on Mar 16, 2023 19:36:08 GMT -5
After 50+ years of Research and Experimentation I've come to the conclusion That Mental Illness Is Contagious...
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Post by Mark K on Mar 16, 2023 23:27:40 GMT -5
I thought the answer was going to be that mental illness is caused by not being vaxed.
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Post by 1dave on Mar 16, 2023 23:40:24 GMT -5
We are talking about life destroying problems here!
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Post by realrockhound on Mar 17, 2023 0:29:57 GMT -5
Before if you cut a part of your body off, you were considered mentally ill or insane. Now days you can cut your dick off and say you’re a woman and you’re told you’re strong and brave. Mental illness is a social construct 😂
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Post by Rockoonz on Mar 17, 2023 1:05:18 GMT -5
Before if you cut a part of your body off, you were considered mentally ill or insane. Now days you can cut your dick off and say you’re a woman and you’re told you’re strong and brave. Mental illness is a social construct 😂 Society, and the implied social contract, are a social construct.
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Post by HankRocks on Mar 17, 2023 4:19:47 GMT -5
1dave We have attended several Parkinson's seminars and there have been presentations about the Human Microbiome and the role it plays in our overall health. Those trillions of Bacteria residing in every persons gut are critical to one's health. So much of the normal functions within the body are controlled by chemicals produced by the Microbiome. What causes a Parkinson's patient brain to not produce enough dopamine, resulting in Parkinson's. What has affected that patients Microbiome to not produce the required chemical(s). It's an extremely complicated system and until recently the tools to study have been lacking. Has the use of certain anti-biotics, the chemical additives in food, etc, etc...affected the Microbiome? To me it seems reasonable to assume that it has been affected and that some of us are paying the price. I believe I have read that there are about 22,000 genes in the human geome that every person is 99.9% identical. So far they have catalogued over 3.3 million different non-human genes in the gut Microbiome and that we can be 80 to 90% different from each other in those genes. There is a growing feeling among researchers that some neurological disorders are probably related to a healthy Microbiome. I have attempted to read some of the research and it quickly gets beyond me. Henry
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Post by 1dave on Mar 17, 2023 6:02:27 GMT -5
Thanks Henry HankRocks! We are far more complicated than we appear. The more complicated things become, the easier it is for some tiny - or big - thing to go wrong. I look at my hand or eye and think "how complicated!" and then realize they are mostly empty space with a few electrons zipping around holding almost nothing together. With all the "nothingness" that is the reality of my brain, how is it that I have self awareness?
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Post by sooner on Mar 20, 2023 16:38:12 GMT -5
It's hereditary, you get it from your kids.
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Post by melhill1659 on Mar 24, 2023 5:09:03 GMT -5
Thanks Henry HankRocks! We are far more complicated than we appear. The more complicated things become, the easier it is for some tiny - or big - thing to go wrong. I look at my hand or eye and think "how complicated!" and then realize they are mostly empty space with a few electrons zipping around holding almost nothing together. With all the "nothingness" that is the reality of my brain, how is it that I have self awareness? As a woman growing up with Bipolar 2, in an age of “just whoop her ass”, “rub some dirt on it” or “castor oil, it fixes everything”, I had to become very self aware and proactive in my own mental health awareness. My oldest son is on the lower end of the spectrum and now my 1yr old is showing small signs of it also. So I’m all in on learning new ways of self help!!! Thank You
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Post by Rockoonz on Mar 24, 2023 10:33:25 GMT -5
My oldest daughter has lived with a bipolar diagnosis, among other things. She is also the most likely, out of all my children, to look at a daunting task and simply say she will handle it, and she handles it. Between her and others who fall all over the mental health spectrum and have been friends and associates, I have come to a conclusion about what we call mental illness. I believe many who just don't fit in, whether diagnosed or undiagnosed, are simply little solitary bees who cannot take on she truly sick hive mentality that is western "society". In our world, drugs and counseling to make them (us?) more managable are the only recourse, the fur trapper or solitary hermit who just stayed away from town was once just a personality type, and we understood that, but now our modern lifestyle demands a degree of conformity that is quite new to us humans, and IMO quite unhealthy.
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Post by 1dave on Mar 24, 2023 12:05:39 GMT -5
I once had a "Bi-polar" neighbor. When he was high he could - and DID - do anything that came to mind.
He once built a radio controlled vehicle, later took sheets of plastic and heat formed them into the two sides of a fire plug and attached them to the top of the vehicle with a microphone and speaker inside.
He often took it to the local large mall and drove it around and had whimsical conversations with all the children (and a few adults) that were attracted to it.
I believe ALL of our geniuses fit in this category.
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Post by Rockoonz on Mar 24, 2023 15:04:25 GMT -5
I once had a "Bi-polar" neighbor. When he was high he could - and DID - do anything that came to mind. He once built a radio controlled vehicle, later took sheets of plastic and heat formed them into the two sides of a fire plug and attached them to the top of the vehicle with a microphone and speaker inside. He often took it to the local large mall and drove it around and had whimsical conversations with all the children (and a few adults) that were attracted to it. I believe ALL of our geniuses fit in this category. Lots of evidence of this in history, our best and brightest who built the foundation of thought that todays "genius" merely manipulates were almost universally rejected by the institutional education establishments of their day, so many of the kids that our schools medicate to manage may just be so far ahead of their teachers that the typical classroom just bores them. I think the TAG programs were envisioned with the intent to deal with that, but since government education must, by it's nature, put conformity above individuality, they have done little. A super brilliant teacher friend who was in our rock club and recently passed had an excellent quote, "We don't need STEM in our schools, we need STEAM" as in we need to teach more arts. He said, and I agree, that creative arts ignite a part of the brain I like to call the BS detector, ie critical thinking, which is a problem for the "managers" of conformity.
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Post by mohs on Mar 24, 2023 15:25:43 GMT -5
genius and madness it cuts both ways I choose the 3rd way soon as I stumble upon it In the meantime just a mediocre mohs on a
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Post by mohs on Mar 24, 2023 15:27:01 GMT -5
a leaverite
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