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Post by parfive on Jan 24, 2024 16:18:22 GMT -5
Crank away?
I wouldn’t be crankin’ too hard on any 6-32 brass nuts if that’s their size.
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Post by velodromed on Jan 24, 2024 17:05:06 GMT -5
Crank away? I wouldn’t be crankin’ too hard on any 6-32 brass nuts if that’s their size. They are metric (china built) m6. edit- oops, that’s what you said actually lol. I’m tired today. M6-32
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Post by velodromed on Jan 28, 2024 8:38:34 GMT -5
Howe long do you wait to clean out the barrel? 1 week still? I'm impatient lol, maybe the grit breaks down quicker with the larger barrels? Go ahead and open it. When I start a new load, my cleanouts aren’t clean outs. I open it, recharge grit, wipe off the lip and clean the top of the liner, then close it back up again. I only start fully cleaning it out when I think there’s stones that need to be looked over. I have the 40 RPM version so mine will breakdown grit in 4-5 days often, but I still let it go a 7-9 days because the rocks continue to smooth after the grit feels broken down to the touch, I found. If I opened it up when the grits are immediately done, the rocks have a course sandpaper feel. If I wait just a couple more days, they’re nice and smooth. I also can’t always pick up the damn barrel when I want to. I have a fused cervical spine and severe nerve damage. Some days I simply can’t lift it (much less get off the couch) so the barrel spins. Oh, I use 35 grit SiC from the rock shed most of the time.
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wseaton
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Post by wseaton on Jan 28, 2024 21:22:32 GMT -5
I have a Rebel 17 and have pretty much figured it out.
You can avoid leaking barrels by putting the seal on when it's wet. I use a spray bottle with water and only finger tight the nuts. It never leaks. It will potentially leak if I put it on dry or theres grit on the seal. Even the tinieat grain of 60/90 can cause a leak. The seal between the rubber nees to be pristine.
My grind time depends on load. Right now I'm running a huge piece of 7" jasper with the barrel filled 1/3 way with 1.5" rocks. It takes two days to reduce 1/2 cup #46 grit to nothing. 120-500 is even faster. It's stupid filling it up more because I want to grind the jasper, and if I use more fill rocks they just consume the grit, which isnt free.
If you fill the barrel up to 3/4 full with 3" or bigger rocks grind time gets a lot longer.
120-500 grit gets wreaked freaky fast. Takes 12 hours to break down 1/4 cup of either. I polish in 100% ceramic and it only taks 3-4 days.
Big piece of porcelean jasper I just finished up.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jan 28, 2024 22:50:39 GMT -5
Yea I agree, it's like the pea and the princess story, that little bit will cause disruption. Sometimes it's spring a small leak for about a 30 mins and then cauterize itself by the slurry hardening on the lip. wseaton You haven't had any issues with the liner breaking down with the 46 grit?
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Post by wseaton on Jan 29, 2024 2:17:06 GMT -5
Nope. I also run #36 AO blasting grit and the liner looks fine. At this point I'm willing to try depleted uranium. :-)
This will likely be my last big rock shaped in my 17. Just consumes too much grit. Big jasper chunk has gone through almost 3 cups of 36 and 46, and I'm looking for a different technique.
I might try a technique I saw where you smooth a rock with a dremel first and then tumble. Once I get a rock shaped and rough smoothed its easy peezy. 120/220 onward flies.
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hplcman
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Post by hplcman on Jan 29, 2024 14:39:32 GMT -5
Nope. I also run #36 AO blasting grit and the liner looks fine. At this point I'm willing to try depleted uranium. :-) This will likely be my last big rock shaped in my 17. Just consumes too much grit. Big jasper chunk has gone through almost 3 cups of 36 and 46, and I'm looking for a different technique. I might try a technique I saw where you smooth a rock with a dremel first and then tumble. Once I get a rock shaped and rough smoothed its easy peezy. 120/220 onward flies. Can rocks be sand blasted to initially smooth them out? Has anyone tried that?
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Post by velodromed on Jan 29, 2024 21:18:04 GMT -5
Nope. I also run #36 AO blasting grit and the liner looks fine. At this point I'm willing to try depleted uranium. :-) This will likely be my last big rock shaped in my 17. Just consumes too much grit. Big jasper chunk has gone through almost 3 cups of 36 and 46, and I'm looking for a different technique. I might try a technique I saw where you smooth a rock with a dremel first and then tumble. Once I get a rock shaped and rough smoothed its easy peezy. 120/220 onward flies. Can rocks be sand blasted to initially smooth them out? Has anyone tried that? After I first read this, I had to sit and think for a bit. There are some pretty cheap, small sandblasting cabinets, add a cheap compressor, and gun… still looking around 300 bucks minimum for base quality equipment. There’s also the cost of the blasting grit, usually an aluminum oxide between 30 and 80 grit range. Maybe you could do it without the cabinet (messy), but a compressor is around 150. Gun another 50. Of course, if somebody already had a set up, sure it might work.
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Post by velodromed on Jan 29, 2024 21:21:41 GMT -5
Yea I agree, it's like the pea and the princess story, that little bit will cause disruption. Sometimes it's spring a small leak for about a 30 mins and then cauterize itself by the slurry hardening on the lip. I see this happening a little bit most times. It’ll barely seep to the edge and then dry. I like the new Amazon thumb nuts I got. They are a bit more comfy to turn and seem to work slightly better.
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Post by pebblesky on Jan 30, 2024 1:10:13 GMT -5
Nope. I also run #36 AO blasting grit and the liner looks fine. At this point I'm willing to try depleted uranium. :-) This will likely be my last big rock shaped in my 17. Just consumes too much grit. Big jasper chunk has gone through almost 3 cups of 36 and 46, and I'm looking for a different technique. I might try a technique I saw where you smooth a rock with a dremel first and then tumble. Once I get a rock shaped and rough smoothed its easy peezy. 120/220 onward flies. Can rocks be sand blasted to initially smooth them out? Has anyone tried that? I think they can and I know some sellers sand blast the Madgascar chalcedony pieces to make them look clean while keeping the surface features intact. I don't see that process myself though. I was quite intrigued by the idea and checked with the prices/sizes of the sand blasters, and then, end of story.
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Post by velodromed on Feb 6, 2024 14:20:04 GMT -5
Howe long do you wait to clean out the barrel? 1 week still? I'm impatient lol, maybe the grit breaks down quicker with the larger barrels? Oh…one thing that didn’t occur to me for several months is to clean under the liner good, especially around the bolts. Stuff built up under it and prevented a solid seal, which caused it to leak.
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Feb 20, 2024 18:34:30 GMT -5
So mine leaked after 4 days. Made a huge mess and almost had me sending it back. I reached out to the vendor and they had some thoughts, but they didn't work. My solution was to add a flat washer under the thumbscrews. Just like that- no more leaks. I did share my findings with the vendor. Other than the leak, mine has been great (2 months in) and runs as well as my Model B.
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Post by velodromed on Feb 20, 2024 19:03:02 GMT -5
So mine leaked after 4 days. Made a huge mess and almost had me sending it back. I reached out to the vendor and they had some thoughts, but they didn't work. My solution was to add a flat washer under the thumbscrews. Just like that- no more leaks. I did share my findings with the vendor. Other than the leak, mine has been great (2 months in) and runs as well as my Model B. I had the some leakage at first, but once I started cleaning underneath the liner and evenly tightening the screws in proper ‘counter order’, I’ve had no issues aside from the thumb nuts cracking. But I found a $7 set of 15 on Amazon that work even better then stock. It’ll be a year old next month and has literally run 24/7 solid. I love the thing.
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Post by pebblesky on Feb 21, 2024 12:01:56 GMT -5
When the rebel 17 is not leaking (knocking the wood), it is a very easy-going beast.
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Post by velodromed on Feb 21, 2024 15:59:00 GMT -5
So mine leaked after 4 days. Made a huge mess and almost had me sending it back. I reached out to the vendor and they had some thoughts, but they didn't work. My solution was to add a flat washer under the thumbscrews. Just like that- no more leaks. I did share my findings with the vendor. Other than the leak, mine has been great (2 months in) and runs as well as my Model B. What size and type washer did you end up using?
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Feb 23, 2024 13:24:55 GMT -5
3/4" fender washers. A little bigger than what's on the model B. My Model B has never leaked even when I had the liner wear thru (what a mess when I removed the metal lid lol). Not sure why the rebel leaked as I tightened the nuts in the standard cross pattern, and they were all evenly tight.
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Post by velodromed on Feb 23, 2024 16:42:15 GMT -5
3/4" fender washers. A little bigger than what's on the model B. My Model B has never leaked even when I had the liner wear thru (what a mess when I removed the metal lid lol). Not sure why the rebel leaked as I tightened the nuts in the standard cross pattern, and they were all evenly tight. Thanks!!
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Post by velodromed on Mar 12, 2024 20:03:28 GMT -5
Somewhere around 4 to 5 months after I got my rebel 17 the motor began making a humming noise. It has progressively gotten louder. It’s not obnoxiously loud but it’s definitely noticeable. It’s still working fine and it’s only running around 130 F, but this hum, to me, means there’s some kind of friction going on inside the motor. If it was a brushless motor in one of my RC cars, I would say the bearings are going out. So I placed a warranty claim with rebel 17. The hardest part about placing a clan was finding the right contact info. But after I manage that, they are being quite responsive. Only took about 24 hours to get back to me and the first thing they asked for was a video of the noise/issue. Which I sent them, and now they have asked for a video of the motor running without the belt on. Which I just sent them. I’m curious to see what they say. Does anybody else’s rebel motor developed a significant hum? I tried attaching a video, but I can’t figure out how to do it.
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Post by pebblesky on Mar 13, 2024 1:54:46 GMT -5
I don't listen too closely to my Rebel 17 but from a distance (about a meter) it sounds normal to me. The most fragile part of my Rebel 17 so far might be the padding below the lid which becomes pretty stretchy around the center, although it is not yet too thin. Please keep us updated what they will do with your Rebel 17.
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Post by velodromed on Mar 14, 2024 21:33:07 GMT -5
Cool… I just heard back from them and they are mailing me a new motor! I am liking their customer service so far.
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