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Post by susand24224 on Jan 3, 2024 18:02:42 GMT -5
rockjunquie Tela, would you like to join me by Zoom for a pbj sandwich? You can also get smaller quantities of Greek beads at Limabeads.com and Loopinloop on Etsy. Loopinloop is a bit high in prices and slow to ship, but better than buying 50 oxyhedrons like I just did at Mykonos. Limabeads always has fair prices but not as good of a selection.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 3, 2024 18:14:04 GMT -5
rockjunquie Tela, would you like to join me by Zoom for a pbj sandwich? You can also get smaller quantities of Greek beads at Limabeads.com and Loopinloop on Etsy. Loopinloop is a bit high in prices and slow to ship, but better than buying 50 oxyhedrons like I just did at Mykonos. Limabeads always has fair prices but not as good of a selection. LOL! You know, I have never zoomed. I'm slightly computer illiterate.
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Post by susand24224 on Jan 3, 2024 18:45:11 GMT -5
rockjunquie , I feel a bit silly saying this but if you were entering Mykonos in Limabeads, you wouldn't get much. Mykonos is just the primary maker of Greek beads, not the only one. There are 14 pages of Greek beads at Limabeads--drop down menu, click on "beads" then click on "Greek." Again, I feel a bit silly, but if you didn't do it that way and overlooked most of them, I would feel even sillier not saying it. I am beyond slightly computer-illiterate, probably moderately. But zoom is easy.
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Post by susand24224 on Jan 4, 2024 3:55:21 GMT -5
Okay, so my tutorial is a disaster, but I think, against all odds I got enough that it might make sense if you can decipher my fuzzy photos. First, the electricity went out. No matter, I have candles and a flashlight. I also had a 6" piece of 18-gauge copper that I just used as a mandrel for making coils. 18 gauge is really too small for this, but what the heck. I decided not to anneal it. Very bad decision. 1. Initial supplies: the 18-gauge wire, the steel block, and a weighted brass hammer. Any hammer will do, but this will do it faster, just keep your fingers well away from it unless you have one more than you want. 2. This wire had already been straightened numerous times during the coiling creating process, so following hammering with "The Beast" it was about as brittle as it could get. Mark the center with a marker--it actually gained an inch from hammering. 3. With round nose pliers, begin at one end and make a circle. 4. This should read "continue curling it around itself until you get to the line you drew" but it fell off. So much for not annealing. I knew better, I really did. 5. I started over with 16-gauge wire, (no photo of the hammering, etc.) and set up to anneal. Here it is with the ice water and accompaniments ready to go. 6. But the Blazer did nothing. Absolutely nothing. I think all the butane leaked out and when I tried to refill it butane spewed all over me and the entire house stinks--I'm still lacking electricity, so no ventilation. So, this is 16-gauge, hammered flat, and maybe, just maybe I can do this without annealing. Wrong, after a few coils it fell off. So, my hammered wire is very short, but I finally got it coiled properly. 7. The next step is to coil both ends of the wire to the mark in the center, and I managed that with the shortened wire. I used the widest point of the round nosed pliers to put less strain on it, so the hole is really larger than I would like it to be, and I would like to have five or six coils instead of a measly three. But I don't think it's going to get any better without annealing. 8. The next photo purports to be me pushing out one of the coils with a pencil. This still hasn't been annealed, but if it had been, it would have been easy to do. As it was, I actually got it slightly pushed out with the pencil and then viciously attacked with a variety of pliers until I sort of got it the rest of the way out. You then do the same thing with the other coil, but push out in the opposite direction. I didn't try to photograph this, since the candle seemed to be confusing to the camera and everything was getting fuzzy. I hadn't even started drinking yet. I know the photo is horrible, but hopefully it's good enough that you can see what I did. 9. (no photo) Once you have both sides pushed out (in opposite directions) you now "twist" them together. If you have it in your hand it will make sense. You will twist one side clockwise and the other side counter clockwise. 10. A photo of the completed "elements." The small bead I completed and the two coils (one 18 gauge and one 16 gauge) that broke off. GRANDE FINALE: The electricity is back on, the ventilation is on, and I can now blow out the candle which is a delightful clementine scent--almost covered up the butane. Also, I did not make this procedure up. Or at least I didn't make up the procedure that should have occurred. I read it somewhere, and I can't remember where. Certainly the actual procedure set out above is uniquely mine--let's keep it that way!
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Post by liveoak on Jan 4, 2024 7:43:54 GMT -5
You're right Susan on the ear wires & I laughed, as I always make my own ear wires, as I like to add matching beads, etc.
But rarely have I made more artsy types. I guess I need to push myself out of my comfort zone there.
Thank you for the continuing show susand24224 , lots of good inspiration ! You had me scribbling "scrap use" ideas yesterday over coffee !
I really like your circle bail with the balled ends. Looks doable & a nice addition to a pendant. I might have to try that one.
The Mykonos beads are niiice.
I spent way too much time looking at their website.
I can see why you were excited. Some of their beads make me think of "Picasso Beads" which I have always liked. Thanks for sharing them. (I think )
Patty
I missed that the thread went to another page - WOW, "loopinloop" has a great selection AND the beads are on sale !!
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Post by liveoak on Jan 4, 2024 7:58:20 GMT -5
Thank you for risking life & limb putting together the tutorial, Susan. I have to give you credit that you stayed with it by candlelight.
Fuzzy photos aside, it was understandable & I will have to try one.
Patty
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ThomasT
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Post by ThomasT on Jan 4, 2024 8:48:14 GMT -5
How is the stone attached on the pic #5 Horseshoe?
Very creative work on all.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 4, 2024 9:05:52 GMT -5
rockjunquie , I feel a bit silly saying this but if you were entering Mykonos in Limabeads, you wouldn't get much. Mykonos is just the primary maker of Greek beads, not the only one. There are 14 pages of Greek beads at Limabeads--drop down menu, click on "beads" then click on "Greek." Again, I feel a bit silly, but if you didn't do it that way and overlooked most of them, I would feel even sillier not saying it. I am beyond slightly computer-illiterate, probably moderately. But zoom is easy. Oh OK. No need to feel silly, at all. I didn't know know that you could use the generic.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 4, 2024 9:09:52 GMT -5
Thanks for the tute Susan! It reminded me of the time I spent the day wrapping during a hurricane with no lights. I had a small (low) battery lantern. Oh, what fun! LOL!
I've seen that called the cage wrap. I've done it several times but not with flattened wire. I like the look.
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Post by drocknut on Jan 4, 2024 10:18:22 GMT -5
Wow, just wow. And of course you had to share the link for the beads, grrrrrr, I might have to dip into my pb&j money and just have bread...lol. Thanks so much for the inspiration. Now I just have to find where I put my scrap container. Still storing everything in hopes of a place soon.
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Post by susand24224 on Jan 4, 2024 15:26:03 GMT -5
How is the stone attached on the pic #5 Horseshoe? Very creative work on all. Hi, ThomasT, the stone is attached with a glue on bail. I always do a bunch of them for my rock club's "exhibit" at the county fair for the kids that come by. But this one, I remember regretting that I hadn't wrapped it, although I really don't like wrapping tumbled stones. So I did the next best thing and gave it its own necklace. It didn't make it to the fair Thank you for the compliment! I am a grand experimenter, and many of my designs don't turn out well, but I learn from each one.
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Post by susand24224 on Jan 4, 2024 15:30:25 GMT -5
rockjunquie liveoak drocknut Mykonos bead lovers unite! Had I not just spent the requisite $100 on their website, I would suggest that we bind together and make orders. (Of course I also had to buy another container to keep them in, so I can ogle them, pet them, and be appalled at the idea of parting with any of them).
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Post by susand24224 on Jan 4, 2024 15:37:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the tute Susan! It reminded me of the time I spent the day wrapping during a hurricane with no lights. I had a small (low) battery lantern. Oh, what fun! LOL! I've seen that called the cage wrap. I've done it several times but not with flattened wire. I like the look. Thank you, Tela. I have never done it without flattening the wire, but I actually thought about it last night so the wire wouldn't get so brittle. Had I not been able to complete that last little bit of 16-gauge wire, I likely would have if I wasn't overcome by butane. I've seen beads that looked like they were done that way and I liked them. I can only imagine finishing a wrap during a hurricane. But, I've always said that the most challenging and irritating things become the greatest amusing stories later!
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Post by susand24224 on Jan 4, 2024 15:46:09 GMT -5
You're right Susan on the ear wires & I laughed, as I always make my own ear wires, as I like to add matching beads, etc.
But rarely have I made more artsy types. I guess I need to push myself out of my comfort zone there.
Thank you for the continuing show susand24224 , lots of good inspiration ! You had me scribbling "scrap use" ideas yesterday over coffee !
I really like your circle bail with the balled ends. Looks doable & a nice addition to a pendant. I might have to try that one.
The Mykonos beads are niiice.
I spent way too much time looking at their website.
I can see why you were excited. Some of their beads make me think of "Picasso Beads" which I have always liked. Thanks for sharing them. (I think ) Patty
I missed that the thread went to another page - WOW, "loopinloop" has a great selection AND the beads are on sale !!
Patty, I'm so glad to hear that you are inspired! And many of my creative ear wires are a "save" from something that I screwed up. As for Loopinloop, their beads are *always* on sale. And just scroll through--they also feature beads from other European countries, and some of them are quite nice. But perhaps that is too dangerous. One cheap one that I'll recommend is BossJewelrySupply in Vermont. She scours thrift shops, auctions, etc. and takes apart the pieces and sells the components. If you want something unusual or old at a very fair price, that's the place to go--and she gets great chain. She also seems to know the difference between copper plated and copper, which is nice. Both LimaBeads and BossJewelry give you an automatic 10% off coupon every time you order, and I think LimaBeads gives you 25% off the first time you order.
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Post by liveoak on Jan 8, 2024 10:58:54 GMT -5
So I dragged out one of my scrap bins - Any ideas come to mind ?? It's a start.
Patty
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 8, 2024 11:08:40 GMT -5
So I dragged out one of my scrap bins - Any ideas come to mind ?? It's a start.
Patty Jealous!
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Post by liveoak on Jan 8, 2024 11:52:51 GMT -5
Maybe I should send you some in an envelope to get you inspired. Dangerous though-lots of sharp edges
Patty
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 8, 2024 12:10:40 GMT -5
Maybe I should send you some in an envelope to get you inspired. Dangerous though-lots of sharp edges
Patty
I have lots of copper wire and copper sheet- just no scraps. I was really into piercing awhile back. Maybe I can find some smaller cut offs.
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Post by susand24224 on Jan 8, 2024 16:23:25 GMT -5
So I dragged out one of my scrap bins - Any ideas come to mind ?? It's a start.
Patty I've got to get to the post office before I get snowed in, but some quick ideas--I can't tell what gauge your sheets are, but it looks like the perfect time to experiment with a torch and try to get different colors. If the gauge is thick enough, I would try centering it around the edge of a cab and pressing it down to make a rim, maybe even creating a "wave" by alternating pressing toward the cab and then a bit away. Turn one of the pieces (a more square one) into a circle, and then cut a spiral with shears (a saw would make me crazy) and see where you can go with it. Cut several small shapes, diamond, circle, what have you, color them differently, then cold connect them together (or fabricate but you would likely lose the color). Geez! So much to do there! There's a piece on the bottom left where an interesting pattern was cut out, but what's left is quite interesting as well. Keep the pattern you've got but saw it into just a small strip of "pattern" and try wrapping it around something. Some of what I suggest may well look like copper crap, but a few might be brilliant creations (a/k/a "happy accidents"!
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Post by liveoak on Jan 8, 2024 17:10:16 GMT -5
And thank you for tackling my scrap bin.
I will try to look at it with your suggestions in mind.
Truth be told, there can be fun in designing around things.
Hopefully, I'm truly up for that challenge.
Good luck with your snow storm - I'm dreary enough with our cold rain ! Patty
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