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Post by realrockhound on Jun 2, 2024 0:58:39 GMT -5
It’s just time and exposure to materials. Many members here have been around the rock world for years. I was brought up in it and left with my grandpa’s collection who also happened to be one of the main guys finding and digging the original deposits back in the 60’s and 70’s That's so cool! I bet you have a lot of rocks with some serious sentimental value and fond memories attached to them as well. I assume your grandpa is no longer with you..if so, i'm sorry for your loss! Even so, I bet he's glad to see you're carrying it on with gusto! Bingo.
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Post by dreamrocks on Jun 2, 2024 5:32:28 GMT -5
I agree with you. My original search lead me there first, but I hadn't seen any images online looking quite as metallic. I had also considered possible woodward ranch plume just due to the metallic factor. However, I still believe you're right. I'll label it and put in in the done pile for now. Thanks again! lots of the black plumes have the metallic in them. Eagle rock is a great example. Definitely not Woodward. I know that material well. A lot of the Texas materials tend to be more of a smashed plume or pompon style plume. How some of those plumes look, they are longer like a feather, which also lead me to believe medicin bow. But with all materials, there can be so much variation in location one piece can look like material from another location states away. But being the undisputed king of plume, I’m still sticking with medicine bow as having some in my collection and marfa as well. As well as a lot of other different varieties. I have no clue what it could be or from. I love to learn though! But like the idea of medicine bow, because the first thing that came to mind for me was dendritic agate from the snake river. However I have never seen any in person only online pictures with awesome black dendritic plumes. And that took a lot of digging to find some and the article was at least 10 or more years and that was at least 5 years ago I read it. I have also tried to find some to buy but the best materials and pictures I found were from Idaho on the snake river. None for sale. Also read it’s one of the hardest places to get to only by mule & horse back is why it’s so hard to come by. The stuff Richardsons ranch Oregon from there pictures was no comparison. Talk about some awesome eye candy you have!!! Yup keep them coming
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Post by tribeunited on Jun 2, 2024 15:06:11 GMT -5
lots of the black plumes have the metallic in them. Eagle rock is a great example. Definitely not Woodward. I know that material well. A lot of the Texas materials tend to be more of a smashed plume or pompon style plume. How some of those plumes look, they are longer like a feather, which also lead me to believe medicin bow. But with all materials, there can be so much variation in location one piece can look like material from another location states away. But being the undisputed king of plume, I’m still sticking with medicine bow as having some in my collection and marfa as well. As well as a lot of other different varieties. I have no clue what it could be or from. I love to learn though! But like the idea of medicine bow, because the first thing that came to mind for me was dendritic agate from the snake river. However I have never seen any in person only online pictures with awesome black dendritic plumes. And that took a lot of digging to find some and the article was at least 10 or more years and that was at least 5 years ago I read it. I have also tried to find some to buy but the best materials and pictures I found were from Idaho on the snake river. None for sale. Also read it’s one of the hardest places to get to only by mule & horse back is why it’s so hard to come by. The stuff Richardsons ranch Oregon from there pictures was no comparison. Talk about some awesome eye candy you have!!! Yup keep them coming This is the kind of information I love hearing about! It really sparks the imagination, like an adventure searching for buried treasure! Very Indiana Jonesy.
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Post by gemfeller on Jun 2, 2024 16:11:50 GMT -5
realrockhound This discussion and images bring to mind an ID question I've had for years. Can you put a name to this material? I bought it in Albququerque many years ago and love it but I've never known for sure what it is. Its resemblance to the stone under discussion here (sans metallic plumes) makes me wonder if it's the same or similar stuff.
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Post by vegasjames on Jun 2, 2024 17:53:14 GMT -5
Looks like marcasite plumes.
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Post by dreamrocks on Jun 2, 2024 18:19:30 GMT -5
@gemfella Very nice stuff
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Post by dreamrocks on Jun 2, 2024 18:20:27 GMT -5
@gemfella Very nice stuff gemfeller I can’t spell either sorry I spelled your name wrong
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Post by gemfeller on Jun 2, 2024 18:23:20 GMT -5
@gemfella Very nice stuff gemfeller I can’t spell either sorry I spelled your name wrong Works either way! Thanks for the Like.
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Post by dreamrocks on Jun 2, 2024 18:24:45 GMT -5
Your welcome
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Post by realrockhound on Jun 2, 2024 18:33:14 GMT -5
realrockhound This discussion and images bring to mind an ID question I've had for years. Can you put a name to this material? I bought it in Albququerque many years ago and love it but I've never known for sure what it is. Its resemblance to the stone under discussion here (sans metallic plumes) makes me wonder if it's the same or similar stuff. I’d argue that’s some extremely extremely nice marfa material. I’ve seen it with the the black and white plume like that. Given vicinity as well, I’d make a solid argument for it being that or some west Texas plume. Has the possibility to be some catron county material as well.
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Post by gemfeller on Jun 2, 2024 20:24:50 GMT -5
realrockhound This discussion and images bring to mind an ID question I've had for years. Can you put a name to this material? I bought it in Albququerque many years ago and love it but I've never known for sure what it is. Its resemblance to the stone under discussion here (sans metallic plumes) makes me wonder if it's the same or similar stuff. I’d argue that’s some extremely extremely nice marfa material. I’ve seen it with the the black and white plume like that. Given vicinity as well, I’d make a solid argument for it being that or some west Texas plume. Has the possibility to be some catron county material as well. Thanks. I've always assumed some type of Texas plume or "bouquet." I see some similarities to Marfa as pictured on Google. It's the closest match I've found.
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Post by realrockhound on Jun 2, 2024 21:27:11 GMT -5
I’d argue that’s some extremely extremely nice marfa material. I’ve seen it with the the black and white plume like that. Given vicinity as well, I’d make a solid argument for it being that or some west Texas plume. Has the possibility to be some catron county material as well. Thanks. I've always assumed some type of Texas plume or "bouquet." I see some similarities to Marfa as pictured on Google. It's the closest match I've found. There is some plume agate that comes somewhere out of catron county that shares similarities. That’s near Albuquerque. If I still had to take a guess my first would be marfa just based on examples I’ve seen over the years.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jun 2, 2024 21:41:19 GMT -5
dreamrocks - I can totally see why you'd say Snake River for that second slab in the thread! In fact...do you remember this thread? forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/89199/slabstribeunited - the above thread is a great example about identification. There are some super intelligent members who posted in that thread - with differing opinions on what that material could be! Sometimes it becomes a rock, paper, scissor decision as oftentimes materials are SO close in their composition, it's hard to know specific origin once they're out of the original owner's hands...
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Post by dreamrocks on Jun 2, 2024 21:56:18 GMT -5
dreamrocks - I can totally see why you'd say Snake River for that second slab in the thread! In fact...do you remember this thread? forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/89199/slabstribeunited - the above thread is a great example about identification. There are some super intelligent members who posted in that thread - with differing opinions on what that material could be! Sometimes it becomes a rock, paper, scissor decision as oftentimes materials are SO close in their composition, it's hard to know specific origin once they're out of the original owner's hands... Well isn’t that some kind of wild. I remember it now. That was pretty impressive Australian opalite
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Post by dreamrocks on Jun 2, 2024 22:00:33 GMT -5
It must be all this Eye Candy being thrown around it has me dreaming of Rocks! Oh no Rocks in my head! Again Rock on!!
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Post by dreamrocks on Jun 2, 2024 22:54:08 GMT -5
I found gold leaf! Just kidding..but seriously, anyone know? Didn’t I here you like all the information can find? See if this wets your whistle! Plume Agate starts on bottom right corner of left page, But technically it’s paragraph 1 on second page top left that caught my eye. I love this book it’s out of print (I bought this from Albrisbooks.com) Another great one of a fair size collection is - John Sinkankas - Gemstones of North America) he was also a gemologist & Author) very interesting guy he was also in the Navy if I remember right but for looking up the old stuff I can’t get enough of it. It’s showing up in the last 10 years. The top notch stash or (Private Stash) from those who collected these beautiful pieces before some of was even thought of. Rest in Peace Royal Rock Hounds!
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Post by realrockhound on Jun 2, 2024 23:06:12 GMT -5
DAMN... I love me some plume/dendritic agate. goldifinder and I wnet out looking for moss agate today. Yet I somehow ventured off course looking for plume haha. Dont worry, he still came out with plenty of moss.
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Post by tribeunited on Jun 3, 2024 1:37:40 GMT -5
gemfeller - very very pretty stuff there! dreamrocks - Yes! I'm so new to this and love it that everyone is so likeable and helpful and informative. I mean, where else will someone take the time to stop what they are doing, find the book, photograph the pages, all to teach a total noob the basics? Thank you! Such interesting stuff! realrockhound - Did you find those plumes??? Any pictures?? Ever since we started talking plumes last night I have plumes on the brain. I'm digging the plumes! Well, not literally, the only digging I've ever done for rocks is through these bins. That's not really hounding.
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Post by dreamrocks on Jun 3, 2024 1:50:13 GMT -5
gemfeller - very very pretty stuff there! dreamrocks - Yes! I'm so new to this and love it that everyone is so likeable and helpful and informative. I mean, where else will someone take the time to stop what they are doing, find the book, photograph the pages, all to teach a total noob the basics? Thank you! Such interesting stuff! realrockhound - Did you find those plumes??? Any pictures?? Ever since we started talking plumes last night I have plumes on the brain. I'm digging the plumes! Well, not literally, the only digging I've ever done for rocks is through these bins. That's not really hounding. tribeunited your welcome Everyone on here loves rocks. Well me just trying to help out if I can I love learning everything I can about the hobby & sharing what I can when I can it never gets old for me. I have several books that I have read many many times on a little of everything my agate book collection though is almost as big as my polished agates. Old lapidary journals to could be where I read the article about the mules and horse back story and the snake river dendritic agates.
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Post by tribeunited on Jun 3, 2024 1:51:06 GMT -5
dreamrocks - I can totally see why you'd say Snake River for that second slab in the thread! In fact...do you remember this thread? forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/89199/slabstribeunited - the above thread is a great example about identification. There are some super intelligent members who posted in that thread - with differing opinions on what that material could be! Sometimes it becomes a rock, paper, scissor decision as oftentimes materials are SO close in their composition, it's hard to know specific origin once they're out of the original owner's hands... That thread made me feel a lot better about swinging and missing so many times! Thanks! I can see why location is so important. The collector sorted them by very good, excellent, keep, first priority....etc. Mostly notes about what to work on next. He also had a lot of multiples, so maybe one is marked somewhere and the rest aren't. Thankfully, I haven't been asked to stop pestering you guys....yet.
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