tribeunited
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Post by tribeunited on Aug 18, 2024 18:42:37 GMT -5
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tribeunited
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Post by tribeunited on Aug 18, 2024 19:28:04 GMT -5
Now that I'm looking at them again, they are 2 different things. Here's some inside photos.
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realrockhound
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Post by realrockhound on Aug 18, 2024 19:29:47 GMT -5
Looks like parrot wing
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tribeunited
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Post by tribeunited on Aug 18, 2024 19:48:14 GMT -5
You're right - I feel dumb. This is the first time I've had it outside, I never saw the other colors in it before. Dang it!!!!
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Post by chris1956 on Aug 18, 2024 19:51:09 GMT -5
What is the pink stuff in there? Oh, yes, I did look it up.
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tribeunited
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Post by tribeunited on Aug 18, 2024 20:07:03 GMT -5
What is the pink stuff in there? Oh, yes, I did look it up. I don't know, that's what threw me. I hadn't seen that color in the parrot wing before. I know he is right about at least one of those being parrot wing. The pink is actually closer to lavender in person. If parrot wing sometimes also has lavender, then they are all the same. If not, then the lavender one is still unsolved. Some of the blues in this one remind me of turquoise.
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Post by rockjunquie on Aug 19, 2024 13:01:26 GMT -5
I don't think it's parrot wing. Look up what I think is called Apache chrysocolla. It's something like that can't remember exactly, but rare.
ETA I found this from Silverhawk- he had some more.
I have something similar called Aquilite Chrysocolla, too. But I have only seen it a few times.
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tribeunited
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Post by tribeunited on Aug 19, 2024 13:52:47 GMT -5
Thank you for the two leads rockjunquie . I'm going to check those out, I'll come back later and update if I get anywhere with it. I'm going to show them together as kind of a comparison, I know that photos don't often do proper justice to the colors. This might make it easier to ID. (Parrot wing in the middle)
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tribeunited
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Post by tribeunited on Aug 19, 2024 20:04:26 GMT -5
I couldn't find anything on "Aqualite Chrysocolla." I did find something similiar - "Aquadite" - A mix of chrysocolla, malachite from indonesia. If t's too new of a find to be my material though. I'm still looking into Apache Chrysocolla. So far I've found it called Apache Blood Chrysocolla and none with the yellow and lavendar colors. But I haven't given up yet Here's a link
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tribeunited
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Post by tribeunited on Aug 19, 2024 20:05:42 GMT -5
vegasjames - Sorry to bug you, but do you know of any lavendar minerals associated with chrysocolla?
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tribeunited
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Post by tribeunited on Aug 19, 2024 20:11:21 GMT -5
I found it - Australian Parrot wing (different from the old Mexican Parrot Wing) link
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 20, 2024 0:25:18 GMT -5
vegasjames - Sorry to bug you, but do you know of any lavendar minerals associated with chrysocolla? From the look at color I would say most likely a manganese mineral.
Otherwise, could be smithsonite (zinc carbonate). Color is right for some smithsonite, although texture does not look right. Although cutting can alter the look of the texture from the scratching of the blade.
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tribeunited
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Post by tribeunited on Aug 20, 2024 14:56:15 GMT -5
Thank you vegasjames - I like to find the mineral combinations on mindat, just to narrow things down and rule things out, so now I know what minerals to look for. You're the best, thanks so much!
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Post by rockjunquie on Aug 20, 2024 21:53:29 GMT -5
I couldn't find anything on "Aqualite Chrysocolla." I did find something similiar - "Aquadite" - A mix of chrysocolla, malachite from indonesia. If t's too new of a find to be my material though. I'm still looking into Apache Chrysocolla. So far I've found it called Apache Blood Chrysocolla and none with the yellow and lavendar colors. But I haven't given up yet Here's a linkNope. Not like mine at all. Maybe it was just someone getting creative.
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gemfeller
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Post by gemfeller on Aug 21, 2024 1:01:17 GMT -5
I couldn't find anything on "Aqualite Chrysocolla." I did find something similiar - "Aquadite" - A mix of chrysocolla, malachite from indonesia. If t's too new of a find to be my material though. I'm still looking into Apache Chrysocolla. So far I've found it called Apache Blood Chrysocolla and none with the yellow and lavendar colors. But I haven't given up yet Here's a linkThis is Apache Chrysocolla. I just bought 4 nice pieces of rough and my bank account is still in shock. I'll try to post images of them tomorrow.
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gemfeller
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Post by gemfeller on Aug 21, 2024 15:31:16 GMT -5
gemfeller - Thank you for the very clear awesome photo of that cab. This is the first time I want to praise the photo before the cab - but both are awesome. Seeing your photo, I dug this one out I hadn't identified yet. I think this might be it, what do you think??? First I want to say the image isn't mine. I grabbed it from Facebook. As to your slab, it has the Apache appearance but I'm not experienced enough with the material to go out on a limb and say yes or no. In fact I haven't found enough gemological data yet to truly separate it from Sonora Sunset. Some sources say Apache has turquoise and even lapis lazuli but I can't find a valid definition of the material. Mindat doesn't mention it specifically. At this point I'm inclined to say it's probably just a trade-name invented to market an unusual copper complex containing cuprite, chrysocolla and a blend of other minerals. At its best I thihk it's very pretty.
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tribeunited
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Post by tribeunited on Aug 21, 2024 16:01:03 GMT -5
Thank you for that - I appreciate the information. I'll still compliment you for picking a great photo to share If you end up finding the slabs you have and feel up too it, I'd love some pictures. Thanks!
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gemfeller
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Post by gemfeller on Aug 21, 2024 22:59:30 GMT -5
Thank you for that - I appreciate the information. I'll still compliment you for picking a great photo to share If you end up finding the slabs you have and feel up too it, I'd love some pictures. Thanks! Again, I didn't shoot this image. It's the image from the seller I bought the 3 from (not 4 as I previously said). They're little nodules, not slabs, and I have some careful trim saw work ahead. The saturation in the image has been shamelessly pumped up and the actual (wet) colors are not nearly as intense as shown. The same may be true of the cab I posted since it's from the same seller. I may have been had. On thing to note with you material: the specific gravity (heft) of my stuff is unusually heavy compared with other chrysocolla.
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Post by rmf on Aug 22, 2024 3:35:02 GMT -5
The red stuff is cuprite (Cu2O). That is the red in Sonoran Sunrise/set
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