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Post by whalecottagedesigns on Oct 30, 2024 20:28:47 GMT -5
My burn on the purple Australian rock (the name escapes me now) Mookaite? Absolutely Mookaite! :-)
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Post by Jugglerguy on Oct 31, 2024 14:56:40 GMT -5
I hadn't heard of mustard. I wonder if there's any chance of that staining a rock? Not something like Montana agate, but a more porous rock like Petoskey Stone might turn a little yellow. Toothpaste worked really well and was easily removed with a toothbrush, believe it or not. The problem with masking tape is that it burns around the edges and it's very difficult to remove all the burnt areas. One thing I did notice, and imagine would be the same in most cases, is that the laser etching with this weak laser would not work as well on something like Petoskey stone where there is an irregular surface. You can see how my burns on a homogenous flat surface looks great, but where I had printed the WCD bit at the top where there are cracks it did not do so well. But perhaps a stronger laser would just laugh at that and make it look fine. I actually haven't tried a Petoskey Stone because I don't think I'd want to cover up the pattern on the stone itself. I have tried unakite, though, and that was a disaster because of the different minerals in the rock. They all react differently to the laser.
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Post by whalecottagedesigns on Oct 31, 2024 20:58:05 GMT -5
So a report back on trying to burn on a transparent agate with toothpaste and mustard. It really did not do anything more than the burn I had using black sharpie to give the laser something to focus on. Certainly did not come with that great white mark that Rob got. Possibly because the laser is so weak at 3W.
But I did forget about the little black sheet of laser engraving marking paper that they had included in the package! I only remembered when I saw it as I was packing away! Stoopid. But from what I glean, that is for etching on glass, so that will be what I try next time I have a gap.
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Post by whalecottagedesigns on Nov 2, 2024 0:16:56 GMT -5
Sooooo! Did the tests with blue tape and acrylic, did not work even after leaving it to dry overnight on a second attempt. The dried acrylic just comes off too easily. Did the tests with toothpaste and mustard, both those did nothing more than just a burn on blacks sharpie. You can see it, but it does not stand out. I suspect that is because this laser is so much weaker than the one Jugglerguy was using, I think his was 20w while mine is 3w. That was disappointing, because I had high hopes for the toothpaste. The white marks Jugglerguy got was pretty cool! Final test, once I remembered about it worked an absolute treat! They include a little piece of laser marking engraving paper. From what I understand, it is some sort of thin film of acrylic. The laser melts the acrylic onto the stone. I get the impression you can get this stuff in more colours too. That is the last picture. Also here the laser strength was 100%, speed 80% and only one burn, no repetitions, so it went in under a minute! So, the little Daja DJ6 works quite fine for our purpose to put our tiny (less than 1cm) logo on both opaque and translucent stone! Massive win! :-)
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Post by liveoak on Nov 2, 2024 6:29:16 GMT -5
It's getting better and better in my opinion. Pretty impressive with the paper & the cheap laser. You have me convinced
Patty
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Post by whalecottagedesigns on Nov 2, 2024 7:01:09 GMT -5
It's getting better and better in my opinion. Pretty impressive with the paper & the cheap laser. You have me convinced
Patty
Thank you Patty! For my purposes, this is quite grand!
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Post by Rockoonz on Nov 2, 2024 10:54:16 GMT -5
Looks like a win to me. I will be researching the diode lasers further, most likely in the late spring when all activities move indoors here in AZ. The one that Jugglerguy Rob is working with, or one like it, may fit the bill perfectly, and building a small negative air flow chamber for it from the pile of acrylic sheets I recently acquired would be a snap.
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Post by stardiamond on Nov 2, 2024 18:56:31 GMT -5
I had an idea of making tombstone shaped cabochons and offering to laser engrave epitaphs. The problem I ran into was cost. I decided to wait for the technology to improve and the cost to come down.
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Post by whalecottagedesigns on Nov 2, 2024 23:02:43 GMT -5
Looks like a win to me. I will be researching the diode lasers further, most likely in the late spring when all activities move indoors here in AZ. The one that Jugglerguy Rob is working with, or one like it, may fit the bill perfectly, and building a small negative air flow chamber for it from the pile of acrylic sheets I recently acquired would be a snap. I think his one would be much better! For my purposes, the cost and the small footprint of the machine are benefits! The machine is about the size of my two hands held side-by-side.
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Post by whalecottagedesigns on Nov 2, 2024 23:04:37 GMT -5
I had an idea of making tombstone shaped cabochons and offering to laser engrave epitaphs. The problem I ran into was cost. I decided to wait for the technology to improve and the cost to come down. Hee hee, that was exactly what I was thinking about two years ago when I saw what they cost, and when everyone said one has to at least have a 20 watt or preferably stronger machine!
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Post by whalecottagedesigns on Nov 7, 2024 3:37:27 GMT -5
So there we go, my first cabochon's back laser printed logo on a rainbow moonstone! Pretty darn happy with it! Will be playing with sizes and such next, but this is good enough for what I wanted to do already!
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Post by liveoak on Nov 7, 2024 6:55:41 GMT -5
The only problem I see is you're making me want one too Wire wrapped pendants could really take advantage of it.
Did you use the laser paper with the cab ?
Patty
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Post by whalecottagedesigns on Nov 7, 2024 7:11:37 GMT -5
The only problem I see is you're making me want one too Wire wrapped pendants could really take advantage of it.
Did you use the laser paper with the cab ?
Patty
Hi Patty, Yes I did! I think I would use it for most cabs really, not only the translucent ones, because it printed quite lovely grey/black with the laser engraving paper on the Mookaite too. Except when I want a more white/grey look, I suppose. Also, I have refined my direct burn (no paper or anything) on the Mookaite, turns out I did not need to do a gazillion passes, at 100% laser, 20% speed and 2 passes it looked the same as my first burn at the top with 100% laser, 20% speed and 40 or 50 passes! And it was done in under a minute. Still learning :-)
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Post by liveoak on Nov 23, 2024 11:08:16 GMT -5
whalecottagedesignsTheo, I wanted to check in and see your review of the 3W Daja, now that you've been playing with it for a little while.
Any pros or cons to report.
Patty... wondering if I should add it to my Christmas wish list.
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Post by whalecottagedesigns on Nov 23, 2024 19:45:30 GMT -5
whalecottagedesigns Theo, I wanted to check in and see your review of the 3W Daja, now that you've been playing with it for a little while.
Any pros or cons to report.
Patty... wondering if I should add it to my Christmas wish list. Hi Patty, to be honest I have been otherwise busy, so have not done much more with it than the above. But it is very much fit for purpose for what I wanted to do, which was to put a logo mark on the back of our cabochons. On some rocks, particularly opaque ones with homogenous colour it can do it directly. But for most rocks, using the laser transfer paper, it should work a treat! I think it may have some issues with darker translucent rocks, but it is possible that a lighter colour transfer paper will work for those, I just have not tried to source any of the other colour papers yet, I only have the dark transfer paper. The cost at 150 dollars makes it perfect! And the other thing not mentioned above is that it can obviously also do markings on wood and leather and such. So it will have more uses than just the logo on cabochons. For example, if we are selling say a pendant, and put it into a self made wooden box, you can have a print that looks pretty professional on the top of the box! The only cons I can see is that you will not actually be able to cut into the stone, like have a relief or such, the laser is too weak for that. And I think even for wood, you may possibly be able to cut something like thin wood veneer, but that is all. Also, it only works on a small area, maximum engraving area is 80 by 80 mm. Theo
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Post by liveoak on Nov 23, 2024 21:01:21 GMT -5
Thank you for your thoughtful review Theo !
I actually ordered one today- black Friday special on Ali Express for $100. It's my Birthday/Christmas present & I greatly look forward to putting it through it's paces.
Maybe in the near future, we can collaborate on the settings & help each other out as to the best way forward. I totally love the idea of being able to "sign" my wire wrapped pieces (cabs) like I also do with metal stamps & hand engraving, on my bezel set & etched pieces.
Thank you for the inspiration.
Patty
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Post by whalecottagedesigns on Nov 23, 2024 22:07:21 GMT -5
Thank you for your thoughtful review Theo !
I actually ordered one today- black Friday special on Ali Express for $100. It's my Birthday/Christmas present & I greatly look forward to putting it through it's paces.
Maybe in the near future, we can collaborate on the settings & help each other out as to the best way forward. I totally love the idea of being able to "sign" my wire wrapped pieces (cabs) like I also do with metal stamps & hand engraving, on my bezel set & etched pieces.
Thank you for the inspiration.
Patty
That is such a good price too! Nice! One heads-up, they give you a few blank pieces of wood to learn on which is great, but do that outdoors, it stinks out the house! :-) The etching on rock hardly smells at all. And one other thought, if you have cats, dogs or kids around, only run it behind a closed door, one would not want any of those types of critters to accidentally look at the laser while it is zapping. There is a little shield you put in front, but it does not cover all the sides.
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Post by liveoak on Nov 24, 2024 7:06:06 GMT -5
Thanks, Theo
Patty
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