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Post by Cher on Apr 14, 2006 20:30:00 GMT -5
There's this tree in my daughter's yard and we haven't been able to identify it. Does anyone know what tree this is that starts spring out with what looks like pods. I told her to cut it down, aliens will come out of those. *smile* I'm assuming it's the beginning of leaves but have never seen anything like it. The bark of the tree is gray and it's very smooth. Thanks for any help you can offer. Cher
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Post by thehawke on Apr 14, 2006 20:36:40 GMT -5
the fuzzy things look like magnolia buds to me. Thats what my tree looked like, except the bark wasn't red.
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Post by KG1960 on Apr 14, 2006 21:03:48 GMT -5
Does it flower? Any berries or similar? Need to see a full grown leaf and a picture of the bark. Guess we'll have to wait. When I first saw your picture I thought it looked like my European mountain ash but don't know until there is a full grown leaf.
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Post by Cher on Apr 14, 2006 21:20:21 GMT -5
We don't know anything about it at all. They moved in in October so anything it does in spring was done. Matter of fact, I believe the leaves were off already to so she has no idea about it at all.
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Post by rockyraccoon on Apr 14, 2006 21:21:37 GMT -5
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Post by Cher on Apr 14, 2006 21:47:18 GMT -5
OMG ....... that's beautiful. She's going to flip when she see this. Thanks Kim!!
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Post by rckhndk on Apr 14, 2006 21:58:11 GMT -5
If its not a tulip tree, it might be a pussy willow.
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Post by rockyraccoon on Apr 14, 2006 21:58:28 GMT -5
cher i had one at the old house and when we moved in i didn't like the looks of it so i cut it to the ground. it was leggy and looked like it was going to die when i cut it. it came back with a vengeance and i was making plans to rid myself of it again when spring hit and it bloomed. i was shocked and so glad it survived my efforts to get rid of it. i gave it a good pruning every year and got more and more blooms each year. i have one here but it is blocked by huge crepe myrtles and other larger trees and doesn't get the proper northern sun. i should move it to get it out in the sun more.
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Post by inflight22 on Apr 14, 2006 23:37:36 GMT -5
I might be able to ID it better if I saw more of the tree. The pussy willow came to mind when I first saw it.
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Post by rollingstone on Apr 15, 2006 1:43:59 GMT -5
Hawke is right, it is a magnolia. Kim is also right, that type of magnolia -- the saucer magnolia -- is often called tulip tree (although the "real" tulip tree is an entirely different genus). I would guess that in your area, Cher, it would grow to be a large shrub. If you had a protected area it might become a small tree. Here's some more pics, including the bud stage: www.floridata.com/ref/M/magno_so.cfmIt is an absolutely gorgeous shrub. It blooms early, before the leaves come out, and is breathtaking. Sure wish I could grow one in my area
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Post by Cher on Apr 15, 2006 9:57:49 GMT -5
Ok, when I was in Mississippi way back when, the magnolia's were in full bloom but they also had leaves. This one has no leaves out yet, just these pods or whatever they are. Could be leaf buds for some really large leaves ... don't know. Link to pic of tree.I don't believe it's a tulip tree, did some searching last night and don't think the bark is right. It's smooth and gray. Don't think it's a magnolia either but what do I know. The tree is growing in Iowa and I believe the plant hardiness zone is four (4) for her area. It's not an overly large tree, gets mostly morning sun, after that it's in the shadow of an extremely large maple. One thing we noticed is that nothing but weeds seem to be growing under it, kind of weird.
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Post by Cher on Apr 15, 2006 10:02:12 GMT -5
I would guess that in your area, Cher, it would grow to be a large shrub. If you had a protected area it might become a small tree. It's in Iowa Don, at my daughter's and is a tree. After looking at your link, the buds fit perfectly but it's bark is not coarse, it's smooth, that's what's throwing me off. Now I'm not so sure it isn't a tulip or magnolia tree. LOL I'm so confussed but this is totally normal for me.
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Post by akansan on Apr 15, 2006 10:06:56 GMT -5
Cher, look at saucer magnolia instead. The pics seem to match from what I can tell. Were there any leaves on the tree when she moved in? Any leaves on the ground to compare with the leaf shown here?
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Post by Cher on Apr 15, 2006 10:12:32 GMT -5
No leaves on it, didn't pay any attention to the leaves on the ground but there probably were some there. Lots of maple and oak leaves all over so didn't really pay any attention to anything else while we raked them up.
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Post by rockyraccoon on Apr 15, 2006 12:44:49 GMT -5
yes that's the other names i've heard it called - saucer magnolia and japanese magnolia. the leaves on it are a lighter green and not thick and waxy like a regular magnolia. here's mine all bloomed out and full of leaves. as you can see, to the east it is severely blocked by a crepe myrtle, pine trees, then a whole wooded area of huge trees. it was already here when i moved here and was really sad looking. in 8 years it still is much smaller than it would be if it was in the proper lighting. kim
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Post by 181lizard on Apr 15, 2006 13:02:46 GMT -5
Yup to everyone who said tulip. (family of magnolia) Beautiful flowers, then foliage after flowers leave. (I had to speed read thru here...probably everyone had it before me!)
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Post by Cher on Apr 15, 2006 15:35:57 GMT -5
We have lots of pussy willows here, bush style not trees and they don't get anywhere near as big as these are. In case anyone missed it, here's the link to a pic of the tree. Link to pic of tree.
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Post by rollingstone on Apr 16, 2006 0:23:07 GMT -5
I'm still leaning towards saucer magnolia (Magnolia soulangiana), although I didn't know they could grow down to zone 4. I know they can do okay in zone 5, although the buds sometimes get nipped by hard spring frosts. I don't see the bark as a problem, yours is just a young tree that hasn't yet developed furrowed bark. Somewhere I kept a pic of a really stunning saucer magnolia (not taken by me), and I finally found it tonight. This is why you want to keep it if it is a saucer magnolia (not the greatest image due to scanning, but you get the idea):
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Post by Cher on Apr 16, 2006 10:12:47 GMT -5
I will pester my daughter with no mercy at all to take a pic when it blooms. I can't wait myself to see what it is and would have loved to see it in person. Thanks for all the suggestions on the identity.
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Post by hermatite on Apr 18, 2006 11:41:00 GMT -5
They grow those here in NH and MA and they're GORGEOUS.
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