junerev
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Post by junerev on Feb 9, 2007 9:04:52 GMT -5
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blarneystone
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Post by blarneystone on Feb 9, 2007 9:52:30 GMT -5
I have lots of family in those areas.... My Uncle lives near Parish, a cousin in Oswego, some more in Syracuse, another Uncle on Eagle Lake and Camp is up near Stillwater. It's good thing it's as cold as it is... keeps the snow light and fluffy, otherwise there would be some roofs caving in!
Hang in there!!
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Post by rockyraccoon on Feb 9, 2007 10:05:25 GMT -5
i had to look at the pics 3 or 4 times. just blows me away! neat how y'all makes paths and such with those snow mowers. i'd like some snow but a couple inches not feet lol. y'all have no idea how impaired we would be in something like that!
kim
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Feb 9, 2007 11:17:35 GMT -5
Awseome pix!!! Yea and the Buffalo area keeps getting lumped in with you guys on the news!! We have had SOOO much less snow than you- heck I'm only up to around 60 inches (that's 5 feet to you known technical types) Lake Effect is a very strange thing huh??
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Post by ladyt on Feb 9, 2007 12:23:05 GMT -5
Ok here's a question from someone who has never been in the snow and has never seen snow. Does the snow that's on the roofs and piled against the houses help insulate the homes or does it make it colder inside? Also, is the snow built up that high because of the snow plows or is it naturally that high? Either way, what a sight!!! Thanks for the picture link, it's amazing!! Tonja  PS Don't laugh at this full blooded Floridian!! |
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Post by rallyrocks on Feb 9, 2007 13:00:35 GMT -5
Ok here's a question from someone who has never been in the snow and has never seen snow. Does the snow that's on the roofs and piled against the houses help insulate the homes or does it make it colder inside? Kind of depends on just how cold it is outside, when it gets to sub zero temps the snow definitely insulates, but when you are at or above freezing, the melting draws heat from everywhere, so it tends to keep things cooler- (well makes your heating system work harder anyway) when the outside temp warms up. Also, is the snow built up that high because of the snow plows or is it naturally that high? Either way, what a sight!!! Thanks for the picture link, it's amazing!! Tonja PS Don't laugh at this full blooded Floridian!! For those pictures it was a mix of plowed piles, massive accumulation and in some cases I think wind loading. Wind actually moves snow around a lot, so downwind areas behind buildings and obstacles get loaded up a lot deeper than those that have the wind against them. And nothing to laugh about, those are good questions, I grew up in and around snow so it seems intuitive to me, but since moving to California I've met a few people who like you have never experienced the stuff. You really should make a trip to someplace that has winter or at least mountains at some point in your life though. There are lots of roads in the rockies, cascades, and sierras where you can drive to snow in the spring without having to deal with bone-chilling temperatures. |
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junerev
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Post by junerev on Feb 9, 2007 13:08:05 GMT -5
Hey Blarney....my snow is not light and fluffy.....oh maybe the first couple inches each day but there is a lot of moisture in the air and it's heavier. Not wet heavy though, thank goodness. My favorite kind is the kind I can sweep away with the broom, this is not like that. And it's snowing again. The dang weatherman lied, he said we wouldn't get any until tonight, then we'd be getting lots. Not snowing heavy though, so I do have something to be greatful for.
june
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Post by Tweetiepy on Feb 9, 2007 13:11:48 GMT -5
I hate snow - we've been pretty lucky here cuz it snows and then the sun comes out and melts what was in the streets so the streets are pretty clean but the rest is full of that horrible white stuff
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Post by lbowman1 on Feb 9, 2007 13:51:30 GMT -5
 Great googly moogly! How do you find your cars in all that? Pets too! Lori
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junerev
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Post by junerev on Feb 9, 2007 14:06:41 GMT -5
Cars: look for the bump in the snow
Pets: look for the bump in the snow....seriously though, my pets are all indoor animals.....the dog only goes out to go and the cats never go out.
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blarneystone
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Post by blarneystone on Feb 9, 2007 14:17:46 GMT -5
Hey June... I was asking my cousin if they were afraid of structural damage to the roof and she said she didn't think it was 'heavy' enough. ...but thank goodness it's not 'wet' or I can imagine it might be much worse! Of course I only get to 'visit' the snow every so often and am not as familiar with the different varieties...  Dan |
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junerev
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Post by junerev on Feb 9, 2007 14:57:53 GMT -5
I think we've had a mixture. to me light and fluffy, you blow on it and it blows away. Wet is just that, wet....this is an inbetweeny kind of snow. It sticks to the shovel but not sloppy. I'm not worried about my roof, it's too steep to hold the snow long, now the garage, I'm getting a little concerned about. Gonna have to dig out the roof rake I think. Now if we leave it on and then get wet snow or God forbid, freezing rain, then we'll be in trouble. The biggest trouble with this kind of snow is like Stefan said in an earlier post, when it snows on top of what is there it tends to pack it down quite a bit. Anyway.....
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Feb 9, 2007 14:59:45 GMT -5
Just a bit of trivial info- Building codes in this region are about the same as they are for the rockies and ALASKA_ some of the strongest roofing structures around- Lake effect snow is usually very sharp edged snow (what you think of when they say snowflake) but when the wind blows this stuff around it becomes "sugar" snow (consistency of sugar) the light fluffy stuff can only obtain a depth of about 2 feet before it starts to compact- but the sugar snow can easily reach 3 plus feet before compaction begins to occure- Now the strange thing about lake effect is the narrowness and intensity of the bands- A large band will be 50 miles wide by about 100 miles long- but most are less than 25 miles wide and 75 miles long- inside the band you can see snow rates excede 3 inches an hour- while outside the band- you will be in sunny blue skies (very strange to drive in and out of them) the bands can and do move up and down the lake as the winds shift- but when the winds are non shifting the bands will become stationary- and then the real fun begins- this is what is currently happening off lake Ontario- day after day of stationary bands- Because the Lakes are still not frozen the bands just keep scooping up all that nice waarm water and dumping it on land! If you have never experienced it you should- it is an awesome site to watch these things move in off the lake and just dump FEET of snow on land- oh and we usually get a couple flashes of lighting and some thunder (another awesome sight in a snow storm!)
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blarneystone
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Post by blarneystone on Feb 9, 2007 15:00:07 GMT -5
Sounds pretty rough to me... Hang in there guys!!
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junerev
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Post by junerev on Feb 9, 2007 15:05:10 GMT -5
Stefan man, I worry about you....you know WAY too much about snow..... :-)
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Post by lbowman1 on Feb 9, 2007 15:21:52 GMT -5
Oh no! Stefan's got such bad cabin fever that he's made friends with the snow--and it's telling him all it's secrets.
Lori
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junerev
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Post by junerev on Feb 9, 2007 15:25:16 GMT -5
LOL....well I can certainly understand the cabin fever....
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Post by Cher on Feb 9, 2007 20:50:28 GMT -5
;D How well I remember jumping off the roof to slide down the snowbanks. Snow was so great when I was a kid and didn't know there were things about it to make your parents worry. Hope things let up for you guys soon.
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Post by Cher on Feb 9, 2007 20:58:09 GMT -5
Two years ago in January we had snow close to that. Here's a pic of my then 72 yo neighbor on the roof of her house shoveling the snow off. That's my house behind with the snow hanging off the edge.  |
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junerev
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Post by junerev on Feb 9, 2007 21:11:47 GMT -5
I won't crawl on the roof. Our house roof you can't, it's really steep. I think the garage can be reached with the roof rake, but I haven't tried that. Got to give your neighbor credit Cher, she's got guts......
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PS Don't laugh at this full blooded Floridian!!
Great googly moogly! How do you find your cars in all that? Pets too!
