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Post by mohs on May 10, 2009 9:55:52 GMT -5
you could say I rolleD out the barrel hope your having barrel of fun, Jo!
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Post by mohs on May 13, 2009 15:45:53 GMT -5
Wednesday ! I opened the barrels, (nice sluuries!) sloshed my rocks with water and chose only the finest rounded ones for stage 2 polish. That barrel is only a little over 1/2 full-- but I chose not to use plastic pellets.
I put the left-over rocks back in the other barrel and it is on course, of course...
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Post by mohs on May 17, 2009 13:01:22 GMT -5
O i did something really stupid this morning!!! this morning the ol'CE wasn't rolling so I checked everything belt, turned shafts, shook barrels ect.. ect.. conclusion motor is shot! kaput! burned up ! so i take it all apart... motor... shaft... belt ect... ect... trying to figure out a ingenious way to get power to the shafts and get this tumbler rolling ! well I went back to the source the power source, that is o silly me !!! I had the surge protector switch OFF! no wonder there was no spinning rolling tumbling :nono: so I get it all back together pretty amazing ! i'm sure there are few nuts missing! and we are back to tumbling on course, of course...
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Post by NatureNut on May 20, 2009 23:16:09 GMT -5
Well, now you know how to take it apart, LOL. Just packed a little more knowledge in that cool brain of yours.
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Post by mohs on May 30, 2009 13:25:07 GMT -5
o I'm bummed ! after replacing the band 2 times w/ thumler from H.F. I bought this super duper band well it was too much it tweaked my plastic fan/pulley well I have option none particularly I want to deal with ;D
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Post by mohs on Jun 4, 2009 11:28:00 GMT -5
found another band here around the house and the tumbler is limping along the super duper band will have to wait till i modify the tumbler this is a Phase 2 batch i just took out of the tumble this morning i see problems but am proceeding with a Phase 3 tumble I chose Schlitz High Gravity Lager for this Phase no particular reason but must remember to burp my barrel...
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Post by NatureNut on Jun 4, 2009 13:05:37 GMT -5
Not bad, I would say they are coming along... lookin' a bit tipsy, maybe...
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Post by mohs on Jun 4, 2009 15:47:46 GMT -5
certainly there a little blurry from the slurry
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coasthunterjay
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Post by coasthunterjay on Jun 8, 2009 17:49:21 GMT -5
i would go to an automotive store and see if they have anything you can use there. Most of the orings or bands might work....might also sand the inside contact area of the wheel. might be a couple sharp spots that contact it over a period of time and cut through it....
but bring in the old band to a craft store or automotive store and im sure you can jimmy rig something up.
you might also be able to coonvert or change the band into a cable or chain link system....not to hard to get a small gear on both sides of the shaft and then attach an old chain on it with a temp link.
pretty simple ide imagine....probably pay 15-20 bucks for a fix and a fancy working double barrel tumbler like you have might cost 80-100+..so in my opinion ide play with it and see what you could do.
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Post by mohs on Jun 9, 2009 23:58:56 GMT -5
Good suggestions Jay like the sprocket /chain idea
someone else had mentioned sanding the burrs on the pulley might be the cause of the Thumler bands failure but my super duper band put a big hurt on that nylon pulley
The tumbler hasn’t been rolling for few days now The pulley is tweaked One idea is grind a flat on the spindle So the screw as some grip & lock tight that pulley That may work but then other pulley may need some tweaking
need to get it apart, again & check hardware stores ect… For something metal, best idea
But your right I like the rubber barrels
right now the barrels are stationary & upright In a beer saturated slurry And If I don’t get them rolling It will harden And when I do get the rocks out It’ll be a column of conglomerate A Pudding Stone Ingot That I can slab on the saw Hmmmm…interesting ..
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coasthunterjay
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Post by coasthunterjay on Jun 11, 2009 15:57:51 GMT -5
yah there is alot of stuff you might be able to use to make a little link system with....kind of something you can be creative with....try a radio control hobby shop or you might even be able to use a sprocket off an old bike. sometimes see them lying around for free. cheep. and just epoxy it on to the shaft
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Post by mohs on Jun 12, 2009 11:02:00 GMT -5
a buddy of mine tweaked the two pulleys in example: he moved both to be better in line that is a very slight adjustment because there isn't much shaft extension I was skeptical-- but using a worn loose belt the tumbler been rolling all nite long !! with both barrels ! one is on a 3rd stage polish cycle which i need to roll for at least another 100 hours & the other is on course, of course...
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Post by mohs on Jun 15, 2009 19:39:55 GMT -5
I came up with a good fix/pulley for this gizmo But I’ll tell ya (and I was told by many) the ol’ CE give ya the shaft! Well actually they don’t give ya any shaft to work with The original nylon pulley melted away, broke, disintegrated This was after 200 hours of use and 3 Thumler blet What did it in was the super duper belt To much torque for nylon So anyway now I needed to craft a new pulley I went to a place called ‘Apache Reclamation’ Its a freaking museum of every used bizarre type of part you can image Electrical & mechanical, from diodes to Bridgeport’s !!! (so any of local guys ever heard of it)?? I found 2 brass fitting that were once pulley on some motor These brass fitting were threaded! Well I bought few different types--- $ 3.00 I only had $2. 50 ;D ---he took it Well I’m not sure the picture tells much But I placed these 2 fittings back to back on the shaft to make a groovy pulley Then I tried to adjust the 2 pullies to the end of the shaft for alignment That what I was saying above Geesh there just no play on the shaft to get proper alignment So I filled one barrel with the rocks and beer And am only going to run 1 barrel on course, of course With the super duper belt
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Post by earthdog on Jun 18, 2009 19:01:41 GMT -5
Most of you are talking alot of crap about the CE tumbler. Don't you all know you have to modify it right outta the box? I have a few CE tumblers that have been running for 3 years now. One of them even has the stock motor still in it. I posted a thread a few years ago about changing both pulleys and the belt. All my CE tumblers are running around 45rpm after I changed the pulleys, and it only cost me about 4 bucks to do it with around 1/2 hour of time. I have even had a couple Lortone tumblers take a dump before the CE tumblers.first, go get a better belt at a vacuume dealer then you have to keep the rollers oiled all the time and take the cover off so it can breath better. Learn how to fix/upgrade the tumbler before you talk smack about it.
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10thumbs
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Post by 10thumbs on Jun 27, 2009 0:08:33 GMT -5
Learn how to fix/upgrade the tumbler before you talk smack about it. Respectfully, my free time is valuable commodity. Any internet search reveals dozens upon dozens of dissatisfied CE tumbler customers. Even after reading the reviews I tried one based on the low price and it was nothing but frustrating. If I was a retired empty-nester maybe I'd consider retro-fitting one of these turds out of the box. If the current economy is any indication I'll be working until I die so I'll save time and headaches by spending the extra bucks for quality Lortone tumblers.
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Post by johnjsgems on Jun 27, 2009 8:35:41 GMT -5
The right Thumler's belt is part #400 for their Model T tumbler. It is same diameter as AR-2 but thinner so fits pulleys better. Save the drums for use on a future Lortone.
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Post by johnjsgems on Jun 27, 2009 8:45:09 GMT -5
Also, I don't know where the set screw for the large pulley is but it looks like if you turn it around it would line up. Also, unrelated but I use the Thumler's #401 AR-2 belts on used Lortones. They are a tougher material so won't stretch like the fat black Lortone belts. I buy used Lortones for resale and they almost always have stretched belts. Good for me because people price them low thinking they are broken/worn out/need repair.
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Post by mohs on Jun 27, 2009 12:04:27 GMT -5
That is an excellent point, johnjsgems! It does look like if I flipped the large pulley around on the shaft-- it would line up better. It would take some special tweaking to set the screw, but doable. But right now I’m going to let it roll as is. I’m really happy with my fix. Smack shaft & and super duper belt! Its been tumbling for over 200 hours (since June15th) and yesterday I started the rocks on a Phase 3 roll. I just burped the barrel and the rocks are looking good, if not a little blurry ;D at least to my inexperience eyes. One batch from this freebie. That’s all I’m shooting for. o this pic shows the set screw very well and how close I am to the end of the shaft But I think my fix will get me considerably more batches.
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