kathylovesjade
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Post by kathylovesjade on Sept 15, 2012 21:52:29 GMT -5
I just stumbled across this Forum today and I think it’s great! So I had to join. Since I first discovered Jade last year, it has fascinated me and I love collecting and studying the different varieties. I live in southern Oregon and from what I have been told by the experts, rocks that contain Jade are quite common to this area. I have some questions that can only be answered by people on sites such as this.
It seems as if Yellow Jade is a lot more common here than any other colors and that applies to both Nephrite and Jadeite. Is that the way it is in most of Oregon? Does (or did) Oregon have a lot of Iron Oxide because I believe that’s what makes Jade yellow. I have also found quite large chunks of White Jade which is also common along with the Blue and Green Jade.
Thanks so much and I look forward to expanding my knowledge about Jade. Best wishes.
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Post by fwfranklen (Mike) on Sept 15, 2012 22:01:30 GMT -5
Welcome kathy from northeast oregon. I'm just getting into jade like rocks myself. So will have to wait and see what the pro's say on this site.
Mike
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Post by Rockhobbit on Sept 15, 2012 23:37:35 GMT -5
Welcome to the board! I don't know much about jade. Mostly agates & jaspers. Sheri
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kathylovesjade
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Post by kathylovesjade on Sept 15, 2012 23:43:06 GMT -5
Welcome kathy from northeast oregon. I'm just getting into jade like rocks myself. So will have to wait and see what the pro's say on this site. Mike Thanks so much Mike. I am going to attach a couple of pictures to show you what I mean about the "Yellow and White" Jade. Yes, I have lots of green, blue and just about every other color of Jade on my property, but the yellow and white Mutton Fat prevail for some reason. Strange... You probably already know about this test. If you find Jade and want to make sure it's not Hornblende or Serpentine or something else that likes to pretend it's Jade, just wrap a hair around the stone and put a match to the hair. Since the Jade dissipates heat so quickly, the hair will not burn. It's such a quick and easy test for in the field. I have so much Jade around here that I have become accoustomed to the greasy feel, the look, exterior rind, weight and even the sound of it. Plus, since it eats up my saw blades at a rather rapid rate, I know it's Jade without having to haul around a scale and buckets of water for a density test!!! Good luck and again, thanks...Kathy
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Post by fwfranklen (Mike) on Sept 16, 2012 0:13:47 GMT -5
Thanks Kathy. I'm going to try that. I have some questionable pieces. Mike
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kathylovesjade
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Post by kathylovesjade on Sept 16, 2012 10:39:48 GMT -5
Thanks Kathy. I'm going to try that. I have some questionable pieces. Mike Let me know how the test turns out Mike. It works best with one long hair and a lighter instead of a match. It's pretty amazing because you are so sure that hair will burn and it doesn't. Good luck. Kathy
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Post by johnjsgems on Sept 16, 2012 21:15:06 GMT -5
Welcome!
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on Sept 16, 2012 22:27:39 GMT -5
Welcome to the group... I'm new to all this still myself, but I'd love to learn more about the jade, I though it was only green myself.
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kathylovesjade
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Post by kathylovesjade on Sept 17, 2012 1:18:08 GMT -5
Welcome to the group... I'm new to all this still myself, but I'd love to learn more about the jade, I though it was only green myself. Thanks so much for welcoming me. It was only the middle of last year that I discovered Jade so I am still learning every single day. The only color of Jade that I have not yet found is the lavendar type. But I have not cut open many of the specimens I have accumulated, so maybe I will be surprised one day. It is such a hard material that it's difficult for me to cut. I am going to attach a rather sloppy picture of mostly Green Jade, but there is also a polka-dot White Jade on the left. I saved the white spotted rock for over a year because it was so beautiful I didn't want to cut into it. Again, thanks and best wishes...Kathy Attachments:
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Post by kathylovesjade on Sept 17, 2012 1:34:37 GMT -5
Thanks so much John. You can tell I love taking pictures since I am attaching yet another one. This is, as you can tell, Yellow with a splash of Red Jade. I only have a 10" saw so am limited as to what I can cut into. Maybe that's a good thing! Take care...Kathy Attachments:
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kathylovesjade
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Post by kathylovesjade on Sept 17, 2012 1:52:19 GMT -5
Welcome to the board! I don't know much about jade. Mostly agates & jaspers. Sheri I just noticed your message; thank's Sheri. Does this forum send notices to an e-mail address so you know when you have a message? Maybe I should read the instructiions! Another photo is attached that shows the same type of Yellow Jade as I cut into. Only bigger! The weight and size is on the picture. There is no way I could cut into this one, but you can see the same type of red coloring as the other rock. This just fascinates me...Kathy Attachments:
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Post by hand2mouthmining on Sept 18, 2012 0:36:57 GMT -5
Welcome home,Kathy! Down here in Central California, we get a wide variety of colors in jadeite, and the same colors and patterns in agate/chert, so we'll try the hair test in the field. Sadly, since I cut off my long hair for the mining season, we'll try it with some thread or a bit of rope fiber ... With my hairline, I can't afford to be yanking hairs out, anyway! Hmmm ... I know, I'll start harvesting from my sweethearts hairbrush! :cheesy: Good cutting to you! Kris
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2012 12:14:50 GMT -5
That is way cool. I love yellow jade, plus I learned about the hair lighter test
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Post by Pat on Sept 18, 2012 13:09:13 GMT -5
Welcome from California! You have a wonderful collection of jade, and some I have never seen before. We have green jades here. I'm going to try your hair test; what an easy way to find out if a sample is really jade!
Thanks for sharing your photos.
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kathylovesjade
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Post by kathylovesjade on Sept 19, 2012 3:24:50 GMT -5
Welcome from California! You have a wonderful collection of jade, and some I have never seen before. We have green jades here. I'm going to try your hair test; what an easy way to find out if a sample is really jade! Thanks for sharing your photos. Thanks for the notes Pat, Kris and Shotgunner! I'm sure that the "Hair Test" is not quite as accurate as a scale and water sg test, but it sure is a lot easier. I just hold the hair on the backside of the rock because it's hard to tie a knot in hair, at least for me. I have been driving myself nuts with sg tests. I can't test the big rocks I have since my scale is too small, and some of the rocks I thought were Jade aren't. But then some rocks that didn't seem to be Jade might be!!! If you haven't tried it yet, go for it. It's rather addictive. I definitely need to buy a scale that goes over 600 grams. Again, thanks, and happy hunting,,,Kathy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2012 7:11:54 GMT -5
Welcome Kathy. I am in north central Wyoming and all forms of jade, nephrite, thulite and glaucophane are my frosting. I make totally stone rings from all of the above and love to make trades of other colors and types. I would cough up most of the Wyoming nephrite I have for enough white and yellow to make some rings. Or I would trade some rings for stone. I have a 12"saw and can cut a pretty good size hunk. I am in the process of cutting Wyoming nephrite slabs for rings and trades. If you are interested in something like this please message me. I only have a 500 gram scale so I have to cut a piece off to check the SG. Jim
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Post by montanamuskrat on Sept 20, 2012 1:27:25 GMT -5
Welcome to the board! Tom
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kathylovesjade
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Post by kathylovesjade on Sept 22, 2012 18:48:25 GMT -5
Welcome Kathy. I am in north central Wyoming and all forms of jade, nephrite, thulite and glaucophane are my frosting. I make totally stone rings from all of the above and love to make trades of other colors and types. I would cough up most of the Wyoming nephrite I have for enough white and yellow to make some rings. Or I would trade some rings for stone. I have a 12"saw and can cut a pretty good size hunk. I am in the process of cutting Wyoming nephrite slabs for rings and trades. If you are interested in something like this please message me. I only have a 500 gram scale so I have to cut a piece off to check the SG. Jim Hi Tom...Sorry for the delay in answering; I just checked for messages. Since I can only post one picture at a time, I am going to first show you what I made for doing sg testing on my large rocks. I put it together yesterday and I can't believe I didn't do it long ago. The hanging scale was $15.89 at Amazon.com and is an "American Weigh H-110 Digital Hanging Scale." My "lift" is a bit of overkill, but I already had it so used it. The scale on the ground is an old digital scale I was not using and I check accuracy against my new H-110 scale and my regular digital scale inside the house. All weights were the same so I use it to do the "Air Weight" on the rocks. That way I can just use my new hanging scale to do the water weight test only. I put a calculator on my patio table, and I'm set. It's great!!! LOL. I will write you another note with a picture of a rock I just verified...Kathy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2012 21:27:59 GMT -5
Very creative. I love it. The only thing I would be concerned about is the SG of the metal basket throwing things off a little but if you are doing rocks that big it is probably a non issue. I just can not get over thinking how cool that is. Way to go Kathy. Jim
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kathylovesjade
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Post by kathylovesjade on Sept 23, 2012 14:50:36 GMT -5
Very creative. I love it. The only thing I would be concerned about is the SG of the metal basket throwing things off a little but if you are doing rocks that big it is probably a non issue. I just can not get over thinking how cool that is. Way to go Kathy. Jim Thanks Jim; I "zero" out the scale with the TARE button so it subtracts the basket's weight automatically. And I also have a lightweigh net that I use sometimes. On to another topic... I am going to go on a rant and tell you what has been going on here. I also realize I need to document what I am discovering in a logical way. It is so time consuming. Okay, here goes:I am totally blown-away as the saying goes. Rocks that I was told were “Serpentine and Quartzite and Schist and Gneiss” by the southern Oregon so-called EXPERTS are in reality Nephrite and Jadeite. When I first started finding out-of-the-ordinary things on my property in May 2011, I correctly identified (without a sg test) many of the minerals. I was told by academia, geologists, State of Oregon experts, museums, rock clubs and everyone else I talked to that I could not have Jade since it didn’t exist where I lived. Since most of my samples are too big for me to load into my Prius and haul around, I can’t take them to local rock shops. The few things I did take were either accidently misidentified, or people were outright lying to me. Absolutely no one would bother coming to my property to take a look even though I offered to pay for identification. The one geologist that did take a look at a few samples dismissed me as insane and undereducated after telling me I only had very common metamorphic rocks. He actually yelled at me in anger when I suggested that some of this could be Nephrite. There is no Nephrite in southern Oregon he screamed. Since I was refused any help in identification of rocks, minerals, fossils and Paleo artifacts, it has been a hit & miss process of elimination, and constant research and study on my part. I have stated the identification of something with much confidence only to withdraw that statement months later. Yes, I am undereducated when it comes to geology, but I am an engineer by profession. So I am not at all embarrassed by false identification of objects because it’s been a learning process for me sans help of any sort. In fact it wasted valuable time of mine when the EXPERTS gave me wrong information. At this point in time I can’t help but think it’s been deliberate. The subject in the picture attached, after numerous tests, came in with a potential Nephrite sg of 3.03. I was told it was a common volcanic basalt-like rock by the geologist. Give me strength! It takes sunlight to see the deep green color and photographs near black. Note that it is just under 20 pounds; I took the picture last year. So much of what I was told is Serpentine is coming in with Jadeite numbers around 3.2. I realize that there is an “Oregon Jade” that is exactly the opposite of what I am finding on my property. The Oregon Jade is Serpentine. What I have always thought is white Nephrite tested in the Quartz range. But a lot of what I thought is Quartz is giving me readings as Jadeite! I have three sg test stations set up: Little, medium and big rocks! LOL…This is ridiculous. I literally have thousands of items and am not sure what to do first. The first thing I did in mid 2011 was verify I own my mineral rights and that Paleo finds are exempt from local, state and federal sanctions. Only Native American finds are subject to any government or other takings. I will post pictures of other newly identified Nephrite and Jadeite as I test it and have the time. Suggestions are welcome…Kathy PS…Fossils, as long as they haven’t totally permineralized, test with a lighter sg…
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