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Post by n8hounder on Jan 31, 2013 8:58:32 GMT -5
This stone fits very well in the hand and this side has fracture areas in the middle. Could this have been a hammer stone used for tool making? And is it chert or something else ... ? We live a few miles from a old Indian hunting camp. I have yet to find any arrowheads I think the old timers must have picked them all up.. They all say there were lots. Attachments:
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Post by deb193redux on Jan 31, 2013 9:25:02 GMT -5
I don't see any evidence of shaping, or of an edge worn by use
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Post by n8hounder on Jan 31, 2013 10:04:23 GMT -5
Yeah on one side it has a chuck that might have been removed you cant see it here.. It looks like it was pretty much the right shape to fit a hand to begin with. The reason I thought it was used somehow is the face of the first pic has impact fractures all in the same spot in the middle.. It's hard to see it this pic I polished it so they are less pronounced and the glare is obscuring them some too.
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Post by Fossilman on Jan 31, 2013 13:04:36 GMT -5
Could have been a striking stone......
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Post by n8hounder on Jan 31, 2013 16:02:41 GMT -5
Yeah cool that's what I thought... but I know very little about flint napping so thought I'd ask.. and is it probably chert? We don't see them that well formed and big around here usually..
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Post by Fossilman on Jan 31, 2013 16:15:17 GMT -5
Looks like some type of "chalcedony".......
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Post by Peruano on Jan 31, 2013 19:13:08 GMT -5
It would be real nice to cut it down the middle and look inside. It has color, and most assuredly is chalcedony (microcrystaline quartz), and likely has fractures from the eons of tumbling and weather.
There are more rocks that look like tools than there are authentic tools, but hey, if it looks useful to you it probably would have looked useful to paleoman (if he/she had found it at the right time and with a need. Tom
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Post by n8hounder on Feb 1, 2013 0:15:59 GMT -5
Yeah true that , and it was a bit of wishful thinking.It could have just as easily been hit by a back hoe or implement to make the impact marks. I'm just a little put off by my dad and the older folk talking about how many arrow heads they used to find around. I have hiked around the area more than they would have and nothing... all that seems to be left is a few tepee rings, a spring , and a nice view.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 1, 2013 16:50:05 GMT -5
Best to find an obvious.If you have to guess then you will never be sure.One artifact that is 100 % is better than 10 your aren't sure about.The 100 percenters are out there n8.
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Post by n8hounder on Feb 2, 2013 0:08:48 GMT -5
These are the only ones I have found and I think 4 are defiantly worked on. 2 are really nice the arrow head I found in "garden of the gods" and is amazing to find it there.. hundred + years of tourists and I found it. The other clear/white piece was a small blade. All were found in Colorado.... Attachments:
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Post by n8hounder on Feb 2, 2013 0:14:51 GMT -5
And thanks james your right .. someday I'll find one out here ..
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Post by jamesp on Feb 2, 2013 19:28:22 GMT -5
No dought about it on some of those n8.It's hard to comprehend people hanging that long ago.
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Post by n8hounder on Feb 2, 2013 21:08:45 GMT -5
my old stomping grounds ..I miss the mountains. Attachments:
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Post by n8hounder on Feb 2, 2013 21:58:59 GMT -5
this was a sacred spot for indians...then Palmer made it a park for the people of Colorado springs.. Attachments:
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Post by n8hounder on Feb 3, 2013 11:38:14 GMT -5
Yo james not sure what you mean by "It's hard to comprehend people hanging that long ago." do you mean people hanging out at the park? I think it's around that old...
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Post by jamesp on Feb 4, 2013 9:31:54 GMT -5
Oh,i meant the ancient folks n8.That we find an artifact that was made and used by a person many years ago.It is amazing.And the skill to harvest a deer with that artifact.
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Post by jspencer on Feb 4, 2013 23:27:07 GMT -5
People who are not used to their eyes discerning the shape of an arrowhead from a sexstone will walk right over one and never see it. Same goes for fossils. I follow in my sister in laws tracks when hunting with her. She has a way of walking by some of the better ones. Training the eye to see what is not ordinary takes practice believe it or not.
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Post by n8hounder on Feb 6, 2013 1:43:34 GMT -5
Oh I believe it.. but I have to add "uh DUH!!!" I work on programming my mind to find what I am looking for all the time. Petrified wood and fossils never get past me. Arrow heads or any suspiciously chipped stone rarely do either... But it is something you get better with as time goes by...and perhaps I am the younger of most here. Being less qualified, observant ,or knowledgeable. I defer to most..I am only here to learn.
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Post by n8hounder on Feb 6, 2013 1:57:53 GMT -5
Yes I agree James it is truly amazing, how much skill and effort it took for generations to make such masterfully made creations for hunting and processing food. All handed down through he ages ..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 17:39:19 GMT -5
Oh,i meant the ancient folks n8.That we find an artifact that was made and used by a person many years ago.It is amazing.And the skill to harvest a deer with that artifact. With whitetail deer I don't think it was as much skill as it is patience. Knowledge of deer "highways" and simply hiding in ambush. If they killed one a month they were fine. Maybe less. I have never hunted whitetail. This is all gleened from years of watching deer shows. Deer seem to be habitual animals and modern hunters use this to their advantage. The natives would be better I am sure. It would be easier for the natives because they did not care much for large antlered or other characters. They just wanted meat. First come first killed. |
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