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Post by mrbrett on Apr 14, 2004 10:19:27 GMT -5
I'm still looking for the best oil to use in my 20" rock saw. I"ve heard people using mineral oil and likeing it. Also heard that it is not the best to use for bigger saws because it doesnt have the conditioners in it. The two that I have narrowed it down to were the Shell Dialax saw oil and the Shell Pella oil. But I haven't found any type of information on which is the best. Cyberrockhound sells it but doesn't really saw which is the premium oil. So the people out there that are slabbing give me your imput and places to buy it that is less than Cyber wants. (60.00 for 5 gal.)
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James
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Post by James on Apr 14, 2004 13:33:56 GMT -5
Contact the manufacturer. They can give you exact recommendations.
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Post by docone31 on Apr 14, 2004 22:02:24 GMT -5
If you look in Kingsleynorth.com, Indian Jewelers Supply, and Rio Grande, you will find an additive called cool tool. It is water solouble oil that is mixed with water. I like it and it is quite affordable. It does not foam. Should do the trick, I use it with my diamond saw.
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Post by sandsman1 on Apr 14, 2004 22:28:37 GMT -5
hi all --i been usein mineral oil for about two weeks now and havent had a prob blade stays cool and theres no smell at all and its way cheaper but the whole thing for me was the smell your useing a bigger saw but i dont see a dif as long as the blade stays cool and dont rust up , i allso use cool tool in my 8inch saw works great but they say its for 8 inch and under blades i guess you gotta decide what ya wanna spend and if ya wanna pay for the name im sure there all good but ill tellya i been cuttin a week or two so far and have allready had to change oil i have it filtering through some brown bags right now but it dont look like im gonna get back half of what i put in saw so its gonna add up fast what ya use ok hope this helps alittle seeya john
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Post by James on Apr 15, 2004 3:58:01 GMT -5
Well, I take that back. I just spent the better part of the day using a 12" saw and the coolant we used was kerosene with a small amount of engin oil diluted in it. The guy who sold my friend the saw is an old man who's been doing this stuff for years. It works and it's cheap.
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RedwoodRocks
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Post by RedwoodRocks on Apr 15, 2004 12:48:51 GMT -5
Brett,
I use the Shell Pella. There are a couple of downsides to Pella: Cost (5 gallons ran about $40) and the oil tends to mist. I have a 10 inch saw.
The positive side is there is no offensive odors.
I agree with Sandman, filtering the oil through the paper bag loses about 1/2 the oil. On the other hand, you save 1/2 the oil.
I found the oil by looking up Petroleum Products in the phone book. I figured buying over the internet would have been prohibitive due to shipping costs.
The kerosene and motor oil sounds interesting, but I think the odor factor is much higher than Pella. Seems to me that kerosene has an odor, but I don't recall.
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Post by James on Apr 15, 2004 13:51:48 GMT -5
There is a bit of an odor but it doesn't bother me much.
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Post by RedwoodRocks on Apr 15, 2004 18:46:24 GMT -5
I just read a post in Rock net from Bob's rock shop about lubricating oils for rocksaws. (hope that doesn't get me thown off this message board) According to the author, he called Lortone who does not recommend Pella as it does not provide enough cooling and will glaze the blade. Lortone recommends an industrial grade mineral oil. The author called up Shell who recommended Vitrea22. The author also noted that Pella gave the author and his son headaches. Not sure what they were doing, but I try not to breathe the oil mist from the saw. I usually will let the saw sit for a few minutes before opening the hood. So.... I have never gotten a headache. But, I may have to try a new oil. Cal
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Post by llanago on Apr 15, 2004 18:53:24 GMT -5
I usually will let the saw sit for a few minutes before opening the hood.
I need to remember to do that! Not because I get a headache, but because I get a nasty shower of oil/water. Not fun!
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Post by mrbrett on Apr 16, 2004 7:40:39 GMT -5
i'll have to look up this Vitrea22. I called our local oil comp. and they said they can't order pella but they do have mineral oil for little over 4.00
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Post by sandsman1 on Apr 16, 2004 11:18:03 GMT -5
hi all hey brett whats the name of the oil company maybe i got one around here i think i paid like 6.50 a gal last time maybe i can find it cheaper around here thanks for any help ---john
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Post by mrbrett on Apr 16, 2004 12:09:38 GMT -5
Hey John, the company,s name is Newton Oil. For 5 gal. of mineral oil is $24.75. They said that mineral oil has a vistosty of about 5 where the pella is about 2. which means pella is a little lighter to keep the heat down but the thicker oil is better conditioner for your blade. They said you can thin it down with a solvent but don't recondment it.
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Post by mrbrett on Apr 17, 2004 6:43:26 GMT -5
Got some mineral oil today and thought I would cut some geodes for my son. He has be bugging my for months to cut one. The first one I cut was about the size of a softball. saw ran great. Got it cut and it was a pale, pale blue and solid. i thought well darn so I cut another one that was even bigger and it looked like it was granite inside. black with red. Double darn! The third one.........darn, darn, and more darn!
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Post by sandsman1 on Apr 18, 2004 19:39:17 GMT -5
hi all ---brett i looked in the yellow pages online for my area no go on that name --what kind of company is it like the kind that delivers oil to your house for heat or a refinery
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Post by mrbrett on Apr 19, 2004 7:22:01 GMT -5
John i beleive it is just a local comp. that bring it to your house. The mineral oil is working great. I cut a good size rock last night and when it was done I felt the blade and it was cool. You can also watch the oil squirt out of the rock so I know it is light enough to wash away the cut debri. If you can't find the mineral oil for less than 5 bucks a gal and would be cheaper to send some let me know. I'm not sure by the time you add freight charges if it would still be cheaper.
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Post by sandsman1 on Apr 19, 2004 8:23:06 GMT -5
hi all ----hey brett thats a real nice offer-- to send me some when i get a good day and back is feelin alittle better im gonna drive around alittle in my area theres a couple oil delivery co. close to me ill stop in a ask see what they say if i cant get it maybe ill take you up on the offer last time i got it i paid 46.00 and change after shipping for 4 gallon if i can find it close and pick it up i could cut that in half that would make me smile hahaha ok seeya----john
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MichiganRocks
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Post by MichiganRocks on Apr 19, 2004 9:00:07 GMT -5
I know this probably wouldn't work on such a large saw, but I wonder if anyone has tried this on a 10" or smaller saw. It is non-toxic to pets and environment and won't freeze if you leave your saw out in the garage. Found this quote on RockNet:
If I watch out, I have found this for $.99 per gallon during the off season.
Ron
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Post by sandsman1 on Apr 19, 2004 10:00:20 GMT -5
hey ron that sounds like its worth a try like ya said in the off season its cheap enuff might hafta look in to that and give it a try im usin cool tool right now in my trim saw seems to work good but if it works good in the 10inch slab that would be great good tip ---seeya john
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Post by mrbrett on Apr 19, 2004 12:34:32 GMT -5
i just read from a web site saying to NEVER use anti-freeze in a saw. Not good for the lungs and nervous system. But not sure about ant-freese that doesn't hurt pets.
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MichiganRocks
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Post by MichiganRocks on Apr 19, 2004 18:22:06 GMT -5
What you read about was automotive antifreeze. RV antifreeze is completely different. You can drink RV antifreeze and it won't hurt you. Not that I'm reccommending that. Ron
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