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Post by bhiatt on May 20, 2013 12:11:19 GMT -5
Another one stopped by, this time to lay eggs in a mole trail that was muddy, right in the back yard.  Contrations 30 seconds apart.lol I was holding her hand the whole way. It was gross.lol  took only a few minutes to lay the eggs. Id say there were at least 10  headin back to the lake  |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 12:30:38 GMT -5
why did you black out that area? It's just turtle parts.
The egglayer is a "redear" slider. Not native to your area.
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Post by jamesp on May 20, 2013 12:32:38 GMT -5
Amazing coverage.Hollywood production.A real pretty turtle.
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Post by bhiatt on May 20, 2013 14:43:14 GMT -5
why did you black out that area? It's just turtle parts. The egglayer is a "redear" slider. Not native to your area. I was just trying to be funny with the blacked out part. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 15:53:29 GMT -5
OK, my feeble brain missed it. Now that I have been advise I find it really funny!! haha!
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Post by jamesp on May 20, 2013 18:58:41 GMT -5
BRAD GOES IN CLOSE !!!! LOL
Are those native here Scott?I think so.They are green when small?W/red dot on side of head??
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 11:49:27 GMT -5
Jim, NO it is not native it is an invasive introduced species. You have the right animal though. nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/factsheet.aspx?SpeciesID=1261They are breeding all over the world. I once got contact from a Indonesian supplier. Him claiming to have a new species of turtle, never before seen by science or western man. Mind you, new species were coming to the pet trade at the rate of one a month at the time, so this was not too crazy. His description was too vague and I asked him for a picture. Fortunately digi-cams are everywhere by then. A day later he sent a few dozen images. His turtles were pure black, with red ear stripes. Old redeared sliders turn black! He not only had collected redear sliders in a remote part of the world. He collected OLD specimens! 12 million baby sliders produced every year on turtle farms in Louisianna. I am told in 2009 China produced 47 million on their farms and when production was sold into their pet trade they bought all of the Louisianna specimens too! Brad yours is pretty! I might recommend you destroy the eggs. This in an effort to allow your native western painted turtles a chance of their own. Except his had the red stains in the sides of the head.  |
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Post by jamesp on May 21, 2013 16:21:53 GMT -5
That's depressing.My predominate turtle is painted turtle,so that is good.I have turtle trap.The type they climb up on and then go off and into the center container(floating).Every once in a while a spotted turtle.Black w/yellow dots
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 21:00:08 GMT -5
That's depressing.My predominate turtle is painted turtle,so that is good.I have turtle trap.The type they climb up on and then go off and into the center container(floating).Every once in a while a spotted turtle.Black w/yellow dots Spotted totally rock! I used to have 50-60 of them! Perfect size, great colors. |
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Post by jamesp on May 22, 2013 17:01:09 GMT -5
I only found 2 in the Atlanta area since i was a kid(spotted).Their range is either north or south-i think south.I told you about my aquatic plant competitor that got imprisoned for fooling with Barbour and Mapp turtles.Flint river in Georgia and several Alabama rivers have rarish turtles.He kept catching/selling them-the man got him.The Flint River south of me is a freak of nature.Around Pine Mountain,Sprewell Bluff,Yellow Jacket Shoals(#1 killingest white water fall in Ga).Mountains and coastal fossils all together.Breaks a lot of botanical records.Crazy turtle crosses.T rex's-not really.Incredible beauty
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Post by bhiatt on May 22, 2013 19:23:14 GMT -5
[quote author=shotgunner board=Pictures thread=59719 . Brad yours is pretty! I might recommend you destroy the eggs. This in an effort to allow your native western painted turtles a chance of their own. [/quote] Thats a tough call for me. The animal/reptile lover in me has a togh time with that one. Im shure it might be the right thing to do, but I dont think they are hurting anything here right now. Been livin in the same area for 25 years and dont see a problem with them. Also have non native frogs in a pond out in the woods. They are very loud at night. Usually every year one of those sticky feet frogs hang around. I can feed them right out of my hand. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 10:31:53 GMT -5
Brad I get it. One has to decide whether to worry about individuals, species or entire ecosystems.
You said you don't see a problem with them. Perhaps. But do you know what to look for in a problem? I dont mean to be snarky. I mean to plant a seed of doubt. That species is very competitive and can and usually do out-compete native species for available food sources. Then over long periods of time the native populations shrinks as the old adults die off. No new young are recruited and therefore the population is lost. It might take 50 years or more.
No issues for me personally. Just knowledge shared. Have a terrific memorial weekend!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 10:34:30 GMT -5
I only found 2 in the Atlanta area since i was a kid(spotted).Their range is either north or south-i think south.I told you about my aquatic plant competitor that got imprisoned for fooling with Barbour and Mapp turtles.Flint river in Georgia and several Alabama rivers have rarish turtles.He kept catching/selling them-the man got him.The Flint River south of me is a freak of nature.Around Pine Mountain,Sprewell Bluff,Yellow Jacket Shoals(#1 killingest white water fall in Ga).Mountains and coastal fossils all together.Breaks a lot of botanical records.Crazy turtle crosses.T rex's-not really.Incredible beauty Spotteds live in tannic water from north florida to the pine barrens of new jersey. In south carolina they are in literally thousands of miles of roadside ditches. Look for tannic water and you will find spotteds. Maps are protected because they are so cool and turtles keepers will poach anything. Some only found in one river drainage! |
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Post by jamesp on May 24, 2013 21:52:38 GMT -5
Good info.I thought that about the spots.You are right about the maps.And some people want each one of them.
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Post by beefjello on May 25, 2013 10:51:03 GMT -5
Great pics, thanks for sharing. Cracked up over the censor bar lol
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Post by bhiatt on May 27, 2013 10:12:43 GMT -5
Memorial Day crossin'. The dog found this one. I wouldnt of even seen it. I dont think this one had its morning coffee yet.   |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2013 16:00:40 GMT -5
Western painted turtle!! Awesome! Looks like it has super long front toenails. If so it is a male. If not, it is a girl! Here is why they are called painted turtles  |
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Post by bhiatt on May 27, 2013 16:46:33 GMT -5
I cant remember if the nails were long or not. It was on the move. It ducked into the tree line and I left it alone.
Three turtle crossin's recently and they were all three different kinds. I know they are still laying eggs. Been seeing them on the roads alive and dead the last few weeks.
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Post by Sabre52 on May 27, 2013 17:03:08 GMT -5
Great pics all! I love turtles and my wife, also a biologist, is crazy over them. We have lots of water here the ranch, several ponds, creeks draining into two river drainages, and two small lakes. Get to turtle watch all the time. We have Texas River Cooters, Texax Map Turtles, sometime the rare Cagle's Map, snappers, Guadalupe Soft Shells, Pond Sliders and of course the lovely Stinkpot. Really fun to sit and watch them. I had me several pet turtles as a kid, a spotted, an alligator snapper ( they were legal in Commiefornia then, and my favorite a Wood Turtle ( smartest turtle ever). I loved that wood turtle. he was super cool...Mel
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