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Post by jamesp on Jul 20, 2013 22:46:40 GMT -5
These are sitting in the 'sliding glass door' window in the second floor of my jungle hut. A small room (16' x 16')upstairs to get away from the humidity and critters for sleeping in peace.  |
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 20, 2013 23:08:09 GMT -5
Nice, especially the square bottle with the glass stopper.
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Post by panamark on Jul 20, 2013 23:44:31 GMT -5
Those are great! Nice colors and even one with a stopper! Here are a few bottles I collected in Panama over the last couple years. Bottles from New York, Ontario, New Orleans, Perfume from France, ceramic Tennent beer bottles from Glasgow Scotland, Jamaica, pottery from China, etc. All kind of "remedies". And many, many pipes. The oldest are from about 1850-1860, but most are about 1880 to 1900. Our area in Panama (Bocas del Toro) was THE major banana port of the world back in those days and they just dumped all the "garbage" in the water. Now it is my diving treasure, ha!   The one near the middle above - Mrs. Winslow's Soothing Syrup is one of my favorites because it's interesting history. 1) it came from Bangor, Maine!!! My wife's hometown all the way down in Bocas del Toro, Panama circa 1880. and 2) it was advertised "likely to sooth any human or animal". Mostly it was sold for teething infants. Unfortunately it's effective ingredient was morphine. They finally ceased sales but it is figured this syrup caused many problems and probably contributed to many infant deaths. Sad.  Anybody else got some old bottles? Let's see 'em. - Mark |
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 21, 2013 0:29:59 GMT -5
Those are great bottles, especially love the ceramic ones.
Also interesting to see the various places they came from.
The short cobalt blue one looks like it may have been an ink well.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jul 21, 2013 10:11:40 GMT -5
Does anyone know how to cure "sick glass?" Or is there a fix? I got some old bottles from my mother in law that are just sitting in a box in the shed while I ponder what to do with them. Jean
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Post by snuffy on Jul 21, 2013 10:29:50 GMT -5
Does anyone know how to cure "sick glass?" Or is there a fix? I got some old bottles from my mother in law that are just sitting in a box in the shed while I ponder what to do with them. Jean Jean,I used Barkeepers Friend to clean my old bottles.You might try one to see if it helps. I've got hundreds of old bottles I collected.All stored in buckets and boxes. snuffy |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 21, 2013 11:01:36 GMT -5
What is sick glass Jean?
The bottle w/a stopper is really just a smaller bottle stuck in a big bottle Vegas. Sorry about the deception.
Your bottles are over the top panamark. Fine collection. The ports and boat docks are the best. My bottles were turn of century
in Florida's Lake George at a long gone honky tonk drinking establishment for local fisherman at the mouth of Silver Glen Springs.
Mostly booze. Medicine = booze haha.
Old steamboat stops are locations for very old bottles(1700 and 1800) and I have not pursued them. These fisher docks are close to my camp so I go there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 12:07:19 GMT -5
Does anyone know how to cure "sick glass?" Or is there a fix? I got some old bottles from my mother in law that are just sitting in a box in the shed while I ponder what to do with them. Jean well, I did a google for my amiga and found this www.cutglass.org/articles/sick.htm |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 21, 2013 12:32:42 GMT -5
The glass from the churning waves of water on 100 grit silica sand bottom gives a sanded finish on these lake bottles.
As most solids, they land on the lake bottom and the sand is displaced to one direction. Then a storm
from another direction displaces the sand in another direction constantly burying solids till the end up on the clay/rock pan.
Removal-220 then 600 grit then polish-just like a cab...
Method #2 in Scott's link.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 21, 2013 13:02:25 GMT -5
I just finished wrapping some Roman glass, does that count?  I found some old bottles in Yorktown, Va. It was an old homestead that had been razed. We found their old "dump" half buried with a lot of good old bottles. Gave them to Mom, but I don't know what happened to them after she passed. One thing I always thought was incredible was when I was in the King's Bay, Ga area. (My son was a bubblehead.) There is a little town nearby called Woodbine. It built a beautiful river front park as part of a forgotten revitalization scheme. Part of the park preserved some old tracks and a part of an old bridge across a river, which I forgot the name of. The tracks ran parallel to the old Dixie Highway. Real interesting history plaques. Anyway... there were old electric poles and as of only a few years ago, all the old glass insulators were still sitting on top of the poles. I found that utterly amazing. Around here, something like that would have disappeared decades ago. The locals really take care of and respect their park there. There was even a fishing shack where you could leave a bagged and tagged interesting specimen in a little freezer. No one stole the freezer. I so wanted to move there and almost did. That area of Ga is gorgeous. edited to add link for the Dixie Highway en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_HighwayI have a thing for this old road. |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 21, 2013 13:20:13 GMT -5
My family was from just a few miles south and on barrier island Amelia. From Fernandina Beach. Second oldest city in the US(may have a little argument w/some but damn old the same). I have steeped foot on every barrier island from Charleston to Jacksonville and many hours in the ocean out, inter-coastal, St Mary's, Lofton Creek and most marshes in area. An run away by gun boats from Kingsbay racing them on our jet skis LOL
It is beautiful mystical place. Shoot, those old telegraph insulators are still on about every rural section of rail in the south.
Lot of the barrier islands have a gun flint grade black flint from England piled. Ship ballast from England, go figure.
Glad that you got to experience the area Tela.
I just attended the family reunion at my Mom's sister's house right there on SR 13 in Flagler county in Hastings on the St John's river(bottom of your Wikopedia link). I have left my place on the St John's/Lake George by boat/jet ski and visited my Aunt on many occasions.
Mom and Aunt Ann were raised on Highway 1(A1A)=(sunshine hwy or Dixie hwy by those further north:)) in Fernandina on Amelia Is. She still has 3 first cousins living on the island
and a barrage of nieces and nephews. My Mema kept me many summers living on A1A directly aross from ocean.She was a wild thang and let me get away w/incredible.......
Hey-ya got good taste Tela. And everyone raved about your wrap. It adorned my wife at our annual dog party and received rave reviews.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 21, 2013 15:26:04 GMT -5
It really is a mystical place! We took a tour of Jekyll Island and despite the notoriety we enjoyed it a lot. I also went to Cumberland Island, which I LOVED! I was born in Jax and lived in OP and with my grandkids being in Kingsland and Kings Bay, I spent a lot of time in the area. You have seen the tabby works sugar plantation ruins, I presume? Interestingly, one of my relatives was the premier historian of sugar production in the US and had visited the site to do research many years before I got there. Been to Fernandina beach, too and done plenty of swamping. I know a lot about the area because of my love for it. One of the coolest things is the African American history of the area. I am fascinated by it and by Gullah. I'm so happy that more archaeological studies are being done in the area. OH- I missed your edit... Thank you so very much for letting me know about the wrap. I was worried your wife might not like it. I'm glad it was well received. |
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Post by panamark on Jul 24, 2013 12:10:37 GMT -5
Those are great bottles, especially love the ceramic ones. Also interesting to see the various places they came from. The short cobalt blue one looks like it may have been an ink well. Thanks James. Yes the cobalt is an ink well. I like the ink wells, but most I find are broken. Understandable, or else why would someone have chucked it. One of my neatest finds is an old lead bullet, about 45 cal. Looks like it still has the rifling marks. It was just sitting on a piece of coral. Odds are it would have settled into some mud never to be seen again. I like to imagine it was from some pirate, but probably was just some drunk shooting at a floating bottle  I also found an old ceramic jug, like the moonshiners used that has the seal and logo from the state of Georgia imprinted in the glaze. It is very old, but surely not from the time of the founding of Georgia. Maybe I can dig out some other pics of my finds and post them. Bottle collecting is a lot like rockhounding and doing it while snorkeling is really neat. |
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Post by Bikerrandy on Jul 24, 2013 18:42:57 GMT -5
I've got a few old bottles from doing demolition on old buildings. I find them in the walls and ceilings. Some of them are as mint as the day they were made.
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Post by gemfeller on Jul 24, 2013 19:29:10 GMT -5
Out West (and I suppose in other areas too) old abandoned privies are choice bottle-hunting locations -- I'm talking really OLD, well over 100 years or more. I guess the little square buildings with half-moons cut into the door also served as disposal sites for all manner of trash. When I lived in Salt Lake City I knew several bottle hunters who pored over old city land maps to figure out where the "little houses" used to be. Several were quite successful at getting unique old bottles but I was always "busy elsewhere" when invited to go on a dig.
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Post by panamark on Jul 24, 2013 23:28:48 GMT -5
Yes, privy digging is an "art" in itself. Some of the guys in New York and other old cities find some absolutely incredible bottles. They watch for an old, old building to be demolished and try to get permission to dig the boundaries first. Back then everyone had a privy and it is pretty predictable where they were located -- at the property boundary as far downwind of the house as possible. After all these years the contents of the privy are entirely clean/safe. People would throw bottles in the privy to make a seal before pouring fresh lime on the mess, or sometimes just to hide a drinking habit. Some of the other "interesting" things they find people tried to permanently hide/discard are pretty interesting and surprising for those prudish times.
Randy, any of those old bottles still have the labels? Those ones are really neat.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 25, 2013 9:09:37 GMT -5
Those are great bottles, especially love the ceramic ones. Also interesting to see the various places they came from. The short cobalt blue one looks like it may have been an ink well. Thanks James. Yes the cobalt is an ink well. I like the ink wells, but most I find are broken. Understandable, or else why would someone have chucked it. One of my neatest finds is an old lead bullet, about 45 cal. Looks like it still has the rifling marks. It was just sitting on a piece of coral. Odds are it would have settled into some mud never to be seen again. I like to imagine it was from some pirate, but probably was just some drunk shooting at a floating bottle I also found an old ceramic jug, like the moonshiners used that has the seal and logo from the state of Georgia imprinted in the glaze. It is very old, but surely not from the time of the founding of Georgia. Maybe I can dig out some other pics of my finds and post them. Bottle collecting is a lot like rockhounding and doing it while snorkeling is really neat. Where do you snorkel Panamark? |
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Post by panamark on Jul 25, 2013 9:30:15 GMT -5
Where do you snorkel Panamark? I get to spend the winter in Bocas del Toro area of Panama, which is about 10 miles south of Costa Rica on the Caribbean. It is an old banana exporting area. One story: my friend was getting bottles using scuba on the old town dump which is underwater right next to shore in town. As I said, they used to just dump things off the docks. Well it happens that he was right next to the police station and jail this day. When he came up after digging in the mud for bottles he found a bunch of guns pointed at him. They though he might be trying to rescue an inmate I guess. Digging out under water is a bit too "Hollywood" I think, but they sure had his attention  |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 25, 2013 9:55:53 GMT -5
Wow Lucky you. I spent a week down on San Isidro and down that river to Panamanian border. Surfers from all over the world on those wicked waves. The locals talked about the crocs and high mortality rate. Hope it was safe snorkeling.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 11:22:14 GMT -5
Mark, bring me 100 of these and we'll both be happy. They are quarter sized.  For example, if I had 100 of these, I could afford a new shotgun!  |
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I also found an old ceramic jug, like the moonshiners used that has the seal and logo from the state of Georgia imprinted in the glaze. It is very old, but surely not from the time of the founding of Georgia. Maybe I can dig out some other pics of my finds and post them. Bottle collecting is a lot like rockhounding and doing it while snorkeling is really neat.
