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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 8:00:04 GMT -5
Monsanto can not be sued for it's genetically modified seeds causing health problems. Their corn feed makes pigs sterile and will be passed on to humans by consuming their corn or eating pigs that it has been fed to. March 27 2012 How the Monsanto Protection Act snuck into law A provison that protects the biotech giant from litigation passed Congress without many members knowing about it Updated, March 28: A number of readers have requested to know exactly where in the HR 933 they might find the provision dubbed the “Monsanto Protection Act.” It is Section 735 in the bill, the full text of which can be read here. www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr933/textOriginal post: Slipped into the Agricultural Appropriations Bill, which passed through Congress last week, was a small provision that’s a big deal for Monsanto and its opponents. The provision protects genetically modified seeds from litigation in the face of health risks and has thus been dubbed the “Monsanto Protection Act” by activists who oppose the biotech giant. President Barack Obama signed the spending bill, including the provision, into law on Tuesday Since the act’s passing, more than 250,000 people have signed a petition opposing the provision and a rally, consisting largely of farmers organized by the Food Democracy Now network, protested outside the White House Wednesday. Not only has anger been directed at the Monsanto Protection Act’s content, but the way in which the provision was passed through Congress without appropriate review by the Agricultural or Judiciary Committees. The biotech rider instead was introduced anonymously as the larger bill progressed — little wonder food activists are accusing lobbyists and Congress members of backroom dealings. The Food Democracy Now and the Center for Food Safety are directing blame at the Senate Appropriations Committee and its chairman, Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md. According to reports, many members of Congress were apparently unaware that the “Monsanto Protection Act” even existed within the spending bill, HR 933; they voted in order to avert a government shutdown. “It sets a terrible precedent,” noted the International Business Times. “Though it will only remain in effect for six months until the government finds another way to fund its operations, the message it sends is that corporations can get around consumer safety protections if they get Congress on their side. Furthermore, it sets a precedent that suggests that court challenges are a privilege, not a right.”
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 8:13:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 10:48:38 GMT -5
Just like other big biz. It's just another form of corporate welfare. I guaran-damn-tee you they all will have kush jobs when they leave office. Obama as a speaker, congress-critters as highly paid "board members" or "advisors".
Take care of us now, you'll retire wealthy later. Very few exceptions. All at our expense.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 11:50:39 GMT -5
Don't forget that they will all get a fat pension even if they have only served two years. Probably about time to vote themselves a raise too. Jim
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Post by orrum on Jul 24, 2013 19:46:35 GMT -5
I have a very extensive agricultural background and take my word corporate farming now rules the roost and privately owned farms are only in existense as contract extensions of the big corporations. The corporations control congress, senate and also state legislation. I grew up on a family farm, went college as a animal science BS graduate from Va. Tech a major land grant university. All my life all I ever heard was..... Them farmers dont need price supports or ag programs to subsidize family farming. Farmers fight the weather, work 100 hour weeks, buy production supplies at retail and sell their product at wholesale. They r crazy to fight the battle but its in their blood.....they have lost the battle and now the corporations have won. I know how to eat well off the farm, basically most people dont. I am glad to see food prices shooting thru the roof, everybody that wanted....... Them farmers to compete like regular business and have no govt guidelines or support can go right down to the supermarket and buy that $500 dollar grocery cart!!!!! Makes me feel like maybe god is evening up for rf he farmers suffering at the hands of the american voter!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 7:59:28 GMT -5
I grew up on a farm then went into the military. My dad was a share cropper (got swindled out of his farm) and when I got out of the military there was no farm. My dad had retired.
I am now retired with a bad back that I am having trouble getting the VA to fix. I can not grow what I need to survive and I have never voted for anyone that was not for the farmers unless there was no choice. In that case I did not vote for either one.
And then some ant comes on here and tells me that he is happy that I have to pay $500 for a basket of food. AND thinks some god is on his side. I'll bet you are just loving to watch the children (who did not have a .... thing to do with it) of those voters starve to death. Just maybe, if there is a god, you just may rot in smell. Jim
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Post by orrum on Jul 25, 2013 10:30:29 GMT -5
Hello Jim I did not write my little editorial rant to point at ytou. I wrote it to point at those voters who voted to end farm subsidies and price supports and other agricultural programs that helped farmers to try and make it. I am sorry you took.my.meaning wrong. I would appreciate it if you would reread my post. No apology is needed, I am farmer born n bred, we got a tough hide and the patience of a saint. My one hope is that voters will try and do whatever is possible to save the few family farms still going on their own. The congress did not pass a agricultural program this year and finally put forth a puny substitute. According to CNN yesterday Congress has a 85% disapproval rating, its time to quit the party line voting and forget Democrat versus Republican and vote AMERICAN!!!! The farm programs started after the Golden Age of Agriculture in the 1920s went bust, the programs are designed and meant for national security, they kept a balanced food supply being produced so that we would not be dependant on another country for food! Now foreign corporations own huge segments of our agriculture, think about it...... Time to email your congressman or woman and tell tell to get with the program or get out of politics. Did you know the first govt of the United States resigned so that a impartial new Government could lead this country? No I dont want children starving or adults, thats absurd but in America today the only vote available is to vote with your dollar!!! Maybe if $500 dollar food baskets are unacceptable then folks will dig into the problem and vote uniformly for a answer, THEY NEED A WAKEUP CALL!!!! You know prior to WWII Germans needed a wheelbarrow to carry enough of their devalued money to buy one loaf of bread, yes....one....loaf....of...bread!!!! No wonder they were willing to follow a madman named Hitler to such lengths!!! History is a very accurate dependable resource in one thing.....it repeats itself. So if my my speech wakes up a fee voters then I am willing to be called a turd, piss ant or whatever. Remeber soldier man one of the things you fought for was The United States freedom of speech, you should respect your fellow American and not slander them or degrade them until you have questioned and understand what they are saying. Next you should read the post by the owner, Mark, where you are not supposed to cuss people out or be ugly and rude on the forum because we have children reading this and also people dont like vulgarity so they complain to him and quit and leave the forum, I aint leaving buddy boy so please read the post by Mark and "Play nice". Thanks folks and sorry if I offended anyone but please do remember the American farmer when you vote or get a opportunity to speak to a politician, better yet send them a email please. Thanks again, Bill
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Post by orrum on Jul 25, 2013 10:47:45 GMT -5
You know Jim you and I should be friends. We both grew up on farms, we both understand farming, we are both physically challenged, you with a bad back, me with arthritus etc and missing a leg. Mostly tho we both love rocks, my god farmers hate rocks in their fields and we r doing.our best to get all the rocks into peoples sheds, yards and houses!!!! LOL My original post was to support your view of agriculture so lets bury the hatchet and both of us together try and push the wagon up the hill. Thanks, Bill
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 11:52:22 GMT -5
I am glad to see food prices shooting thru the roof, everybody that wanted....... Them farmers to compete like regular business and have no govt guidelines or support can go right down to the supermarket and buy that $500 dollar grocery cart!!!!! Makes me feel like maybe god is evening up for rf he farmers suffering at the hands of the american voter!!!!
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I may have went a little overboard but I will not apologize. If you reread your post you are saying some really bad things without the swearing (which I think mine was pretty mild) Look at it from any voters point of view.
I am not angry at you. I think that maybe you worded those lines badly but it put a really sour taste in my mouth and I jumped on you before getting a clarification. I am friends with every thing rocks. I respect your opinion and you have every right to voice it. Just like I have the right to jump on you but I would probably hit the artificial foot and break mine.
I have a friend that has lost both of his legs for the same reason. He is lucky in the fact that he has no other problems and works like a horse every day. My back problem seems minor in comparison to what you and he have to go through. I can walk for miles looking for rocks but I can only pick up a couple of small ones.
I really try to be friends with everyone, even the ones that have bad opinions. lol Do you need any rocks? I have millions. Jim
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 11:57:32 GMT -5
BTW I edited my earlier post. Jim
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Post by orrum on Jul 25, 2013 15:48:25 GMT -5
Thats great Jim, no my girlfriend thinks I have more than a lifetime supply of rocks! LOL She wants me to concentrate on making jewelry not trading, buying and hounding rocks. I think we r ok Jim, we just need to get some congress people to help us push the wagon. On CNN today they were talking about grain prices becoming very soft and headed sharply down and how this would make food prices and fuel prices cheaper. Oh woo is me, the poor farmer aint gonna get better off by lower grain prices, the food prices r controlled by big corporations, the farmer doesnt profit by high food prices. My granddaddy used to say a good crop of corn the farmer got $2 per bushel, a poor corn crop he got $4 per bushel, well do the math.....100 bushels per acre times $2 per bushel is $200.00 ......50 bushel per acre at $4 per bushel is $200...Can yall see the problem here? Just for your info thats the prices back in the 1960s and those are the same prices now basically. So the farmer gets the same price for 50+ years.......dont seem right does it? One very real problem is the fuel industry, we in the US r taking our food supply and turning.it into biofuel and its a negative return manufacturing process, ie it takes more than a gallon of biofuel to create a gallon of fuel. I gotta quit, Jim sorry for hijacking your thread but its a subject that just tears me apart! Monsanto by the way is just a plain old bad story, prime example of what enough dollars can buy in US politics!
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jul 25, 2013 15:55:31 GMT -5
One bushel of wheat makes approx. sixty loaves of bread. One bushel equals $8.27 for the farmer. Do the math. I was born and raised on a farm to.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 16:04:00 GMT -5
I like math.
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Post by orrum on Jul 25, 2013 19:59:31 GMT -5
Wow Bushmanbilly u do great math!!! Such a great example and you made your point with only 3 very short sentences!!!! Bravo!!!
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Post by helens on Jul 25, 2013 22:01:32 GMT -5
This is why I vote Democrat... campaign reform. Corporations own our politics today, and can vote themselves largesse from the Public Treasury. While both sides are guilty of accepting money, the ONLY side interested in Campaign reform are the Democrats. So I vote Democrat. Not going to bother with the other million reasons, that include eliminating Medicare which has already passed the Republican House and is only stopped by the Democrat Senate. The minute Republicans can control both houses, there goes Medicare.
Plus, eating people someday sounds unappetizing.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jul 25, 2013 22:29:21 GMT -5
This is why I vote Democrat... campaign reform. Corporations own our politics today, and can vote themselves largesse from the Public Treasury. While both sides are guilty of accepting money, the ONLY side interested in Campaign reform are the Democrats. So I vote Democrat. Not going to bother with the other million reasons, that include eliminating Medicare which has already passed the Republican House and is only stopped by the Democrat Senate. The minute Republicans can control both houses, there goes Medicare. Plus, eating people someday sounds unappetizing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 22:40:03 GMT -5
Yeah Obama wants campaign reform, now that he'll never campaign again! He gave GM to the Unions. They were his largest campaign contributor, you do the math.
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 25, 2013 22:53:26 GMT -5
This is why I vote Democrat... campaign reform. Corporations own our politics today, and can vote themselves largesse from the Public Treasury. While both sides are guilty of accepting money, the ONLY side interested in Campaign reform are the Democrats. So I vote Democrat. Not going to bother with the other million reasons, that include eliminating Medicare which has already passed the Republican House and is only stopped by the Democrat Senate. The minute Republicans can control both houses, there goes Medicare. Plus, eating people someday sounds unappetizing. Peanuts are not nuts, they are legumes.
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Post by orrum on Jul 25, 2013 22:53:54 GMT -5
Helen I understand humans smell and taste like roast pork! Plus you do know some of the pharmaceutical companys spliced human genes into pigs to try to improve the organ and heart valve and artery etc rates? This was many years ago, the experiments were supposed to be destroyed and cremated. Duh some poor contact pig grower felt that was wastefull so he snuck some into the livestock auction and you know the rest......yes thrre are human genes in the pork!!!!! Before u get upset and call me a tall tale fabricator...... Corn has a nutrition problem because it is low in lysine, a essential amino acid. We now have corn that is high lysine because they spliced in some human genes...... Is it cannalabism if you eat corn with human genes in it? ? Waiting.on that answer for years now!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 23:59:37 GMT -5
I was told by an Indonesian friend the Indo word for human translated to Engrish as "long pig". As PNG/Irian Jaya are a shared island, and that was where the last cannibals were, I'll buy it. RE: Human genes in other organisms? investmentwatchblog.com/corn-tobacco-and-rice-engineered-with-human-genes/The exact same content in the above link is found on dozens of webpages. I looked. This is suspicious. As tho' someone with an agenda is gaming google. orrum, can you help me get past the noise?
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