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Post by sandsman1 on Sept 16, 2013 0:09:02 GMT -5
If this is true, who is to stop them from just showing up? I never understood why a permit was needed to be somewhere, even in a group of like minded folks. No event, just a bunch of hobbyists all hanging, telling jokes and farting around. Permit? Kiss my ass. They seem to forget we pay the bills and they work for we the people - what are they gonna do if we decide to shut the lights off jail everyone in the united states ?
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 16, 2013 0:52:08 GMT -5
Would you have listened if they would have said their piece three weeks ago. Through the ages the Christians have slaughtered (yes slaughtered) probably millions around the world. Do you ever cry for those people? Have you even given any thought to those people? Hundreds and maybe even thousands of them were right here in this country. It seems like half the religions in the world say "my god is the only god" "believe in my religion or I am going to kill you". Christians included. It does not make a damn bit of difference when it happened. It was done in the name of Christianity which this country is supposedly built upon. Christianity has a much blacker history than the Muslims have a black present. Jim It is the same with Islam. The throats cut at Tibhirin [Algeria], the genocides in Timur or southern Sudan, the children sold or enslaved in this region, the human remains retrieved with a small spoon from the ruins of DC 10, or of UTA or the RER cars, from the towers in New York or from Bali — this is what defines Islam. The reality is the wasted bodies. Islamic countries show themselves to be pure, in the sense that all their residents belong to Islam, but also — except. paradoxically, Saudi Arabia and the emirates on the Persian Gulf — they were all purged: the impure, infidels, foreigners, or any deemed to be such, were eliminated or driven out. In 1940, about 1 million Jews lived in Muslim countries. Today, a few thousand survive. In May of 1948, several hundred Jews living in the Cairo ghetto were killed in pogroms. In the Cairo Fire of January 1952, buildings and businesses belonging to Jewish families were set ablaze. There were infidels living in Muslim countries, both of native origin and foreign — citizens of European powers, or Italian, Maltese, Greek guest workers. If there still are any such, they are keeping their heads down and not letting themselves be seen or heard. For centuries, criminal acts have been a part of the rhythm of Islam: 1860: massacre of Greek Catholics in Damascus in response to a jihad called by Muslim authorities. 1861: massacre of Christians in Lebanon, who were saved by the armies of Napoleon III, 1894-96, at the time of the Dreyfus affair: massacre of Armenians in the Ottoman empire. 1915-16: genocide of Armenians throughout Turkey. Forced conversion of children, women and girls impregnated as “war booty,” to create genuine Muslims. 1923: expulsion of all 1 million Greeks from Turkey. 1948: pogroms in Cairo. 1952: burning of Jewish properties in Cairo. 1952-1961: cleansing of Egypt; emigration of all “foreigners”. 1956: emigration of all “foreigners” and Jews from Tunisia. 1954-62: emigration of foreigners from Algeria. War was jihad. In the years from 1960-1990: mass flight of Christians from the Near East (Lebanon, Turkey, Syria, Iraq). At the end of the 1960s: organized emigration of Jews from Morocco. 1970-80: foreign population (Italian, French, Maltese, Spanish) in Morocco was reduced to one-quarter — its percentage fell after the “moroccanization” of available employment. Assets and businesses fell from 400,000 to less than 100,000. 1978-90: Copts massacred in their own country. 1980-90: genocide of Christians and animists in Sudan (1 million dead); prisoners enslaved. 1976-96: one fourth of the population of Timur eliminated by Muslims. The 1980s and 1990s: massacre of Christians in Indonesia, and in the southern Philippines. 1990s: Murder of “foreigners,” either native residents or those who had entered as tourists, in Algeria, Egypt, etc. 1990 and following years: pogroms against mostly Christianized Chinese and Indonesians. And so it goes on. When the facts are established, they can be connected to the Manifesto, Mein Kampf and the Koran, to determine what it is in these basic texts that moves the faithful to kill those who do not share their faith. The Manifesto of the Communist Party — the sacred text of Marxism — and other “Korans” of Marxism, justify the extirpation of the noxious classes. Mein Kampf — the basic Nazi text — maintains the imagined superiority of a people. The Koran leaves no doubt. It affirms the superiority of the chosen race of true believers who are adjured in the name of this superiority to kill, throttle, murder, torture the “infidels” to make them pay the “jizya”. Muslims explain: “There are 123 verses in this book that command killing and making war.” The best-known is “Kill the infidels everywhere where you find them.” 2. Islamic Civilization 3. Playing the Victim Muslims and their accomplices continually repeat that Islam was the victim of the Crusades of the 11th-13th centuries and in the 19th and 20th centuries the victim of Europe (colonization). It is not about denying the perverse nature of that colonization, but remembering that the colonization of Muslim lands did not last so long as the colonization of Europe by Islam, and that it was without doubt less destructive and less cruel. France (unjustly) colonized Algeria for 132 years; it (unjustly) made Tunisia a “protectorate” for 70 years and Morocco for less than 50 years; it took over the League of Nations mandate in Syria and Lebanon for 20 years. What are these decades compared to the eight centuries that Islam oppressed Spain, the three centuries of Islamic colonization of Sicily, the four centuries of Islamic and Ottoman tyranny that almost eliminated the Greeks, the Albanians, the Serbs, the Rumanians, The Bulgarians and other south Slavs from the face of the earth. Power that misuses colonization: that is Islam. In this area, Europe was an apprentice. gatesofvienna.net/2013/09/the-islamic-scam/
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 16, 2013 1:10:26 GMT -5
Lies explain the grace which is shown to the parallel between jihad and the Crusades. The two phenomena have nothing in common. Jihad is inseparable from Islam. It appeared as early as 622. Without jihad and war to the death, Islam would have remained confined to the Arabian Peninsula. All militant Muslims, no matter where they live, share the view of a world divided into Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb. Evidence of that is the popularity enjoyed by Bin Laden and his murderers. On the other hand, “crusade” does not appear in any fundamental Christian or Jewish text. This phenomenon was a defense against jihad, ten centuries ago.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 9:40:20 GMT -5
The vast majority of the people that came to the USA came here to get away from something or someone that was oppressive. There are 2,600,000 Muslims in the USA that did not take part in the twin towers destruction but they are treated like dogs that get kicked around. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor which was much more destructive and they are treated like human beings. After they got out of the concentration camps set up in the USA even though they were citizens. Should we lock up those 2,600,000 Muslims until the end of the war, skirmish wild goose chase and make them work on the farms like slaves? We did it before so why not do it again? All those Muslims are terrorists right? In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776. The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. Preamble We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ... no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish enlarge, or affect their civil capacities. We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty. A few Muslims tried to get some attention but they made a bad decision. So, all you people out there that have never made a mistake line up here by this pile of rocks so you can stone them to death. Jim
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 10:43:30 GMT -5
A few Muslims tried to get some attention but they made a bad decision. So, all you people out there that have never made a mistake line up here by this pile of rocks so you can stone them to death. Jim This is refreshing to see. You agree they made a mistake. But you still seem to defend them. Do not add your own flavor to our posts. We are not upset with 2.6 million peaceful law abiding muslims only the jackasses that wanna kill us. And the man promoting that march is a leader in that respect.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 16, 2013 12:17:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 12:25:25 GMT -5
A few Muslims tried to get some attention but they made a bad decision. So, all you people out there that have never made a mistake line up here by this pile of rocks so you can stone them to death. Jim This is refreshing to see. You agree they made a mistake. But you still seem to defend them. Do not add your own flavor to our posts. We are not upset with 2.6 million peaceful law abiding muslims only the jackasses that wanna kill us. And the man promoting that march is a leader in that respect. I agree that they went about it wrong but I think they should have had a presence on 9/11 to show every one else that they support everything that this country stands for and that they are also pissed about what happened on that day. I can not imagine anyone except the radicals wanting something to happen that would end up getting them treated like dogs in a free country. How can you say that those particular people want to kill us. If there is proof that he is recruiting or financially assisting the killers why is he not locked up? I very well may be wrong but I do not see how it can be both ways. What do you think these people should do to let everyone know that they are tired of being treated like the Native Americans were when the white man came? Stand on a street corner with a sign that says "please be nice to me". And you can not tell me that the other 2.6 million are not treated like crap by a huge number of people. "Rag head" is the new nigger or jew. I am not trying to get under anyone's skin. I do not want to argue about this either, I just wanted to state how I felt and leave it at that. But I have stood up for the Jewish people, the African American people, the Native American people and I will continue to stand up for any other down trodden race of people that are not treated according to the constitution. Jim
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 12:45:26 GMT -5
I read it the first time you posted it. Jews have been killed by just about all the races. Hitler killed millions and Germans are as welcome here as anyone else. Muslim is a race and Islam is a religion. There are Muslims that do not practice Islam just like you probably do not practice Buddhism. Jim
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Post by helens on Sept 16, 2013 12:52:46 GMT -5
I have new respect for you Wampidy:).
That said, I think the bikers did something really cool too.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 16, 2013 12:55:20 GMT -5
Jim, there maybe more peaceful Muslims than radical. If the peaceful ones do not want to be painted with the same brush. Why do they not stand up and condemn the radical ones? Why do they just sit quiet? Why do they still attend the same masques as the radicals? Why don't they fight the radicals to help clear their reputations?
Instead they just sit there with their thumbs up their asses and complain about being victims of race battering. Never seen a rally with Muslims condemning the radicals. If they want us to treat them with respect they have to earn it not demand it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 13:13:14 GMT -5
There are Muslims in Afghanistan that are helping the US government. When the military pulls out of Afghanistan they are leaving those people to the dogs. Our government is abandoning them and they will not last a week. So yea, why won't they stand up and help. (Shaking his head slowly back and forth) Jim
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Post by grayfingers on Sept 16, 2013 13:23:12 GMT -5
Jim, just to clarify. . . Muslim by definition means someone who is an adherent of Islam. It is not a race. Many different races are Muslim, followers of Islam. Just as there are people of many different races who are Christian, not all of us are angry white neo-cons. . . Moderate followers of Islam have lived in peace with others of differing religions for hundreds of years. It is those who practice radical Islamist views that are the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 13:29:00 GMT -5
Officials said the review would focus on the exact number of Muslims in the U.S. military, which has encouraged such enrollment. The Defense Department reported 3,409 Muslims on active military duty as of April 2008, but officials said the number could be at least three times higher. Jim
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 13:34:19 GMT -5
Jim, just to clarify. . . Muslim by definition means someone who is an adherent of Islam. It is not a race. Many different races are Muslim, followers of Islam. Just as there are people of many different races who are Christian, not all of us are angry white neo-cons. . . Moderate followers of Islam have lived in peace with others of differing religions for hundreds of years. It is those who practice radical Islamist views that are the problem. Thank you for clarifying that. I now remember Careme Abul Jabar (sp) becoming a Muslim. Pretty hard changing race. Jim
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Post by grayfingers on Sept 16, 2013 13:41:17 GMT -5
lol, this 'Cat' too. . .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 14:13:38 GMT -5
Very good. Jim
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 16, 2013 17:58:33 GMT -5
as for religion i was raised Lutheran i haven't been in a church since i got caught drink-in beer in the park on a Sunday morning in a suit, about age 14 or 15 i guess i was -- but i kinda like the christian way of life and what it stands for so i try to follow it best i can -- if i feel a need to pray or talk with my dad my recliner is just as good a place as any -- i never understood the pay to pray deal, Jesus never charged anyone to sit in the grass and hear him speak - in my mind that was a money and power thing created by man -- as for being tolerant if someone is standing on my foot ill ask them to get off if they don't ill push them off, if that's not right I guess Im not a perfect christian -- but as far as that goes i don't think iv ever met a perfect christian that's why god forgives if you ask for it Well said, sands, I very much relate to this. Being a religious person is not about going to church on Sundays, but living the life, and doing as Jesus taught. Going to church regularly does not make one a good person. I was born and raised a Catholic, but became disillusioned with the "church" when I was old enough to decide for myself to go or not. (Both my parents still go every week.) As a kid we were taught that Jesus is in your heart, and you can speak with him wherever you are. So why do I need to go to church, and contribute to the collection box, when it goes to buy the Pastor a new car every year, or new carpeting for the church, or whatever? They are almost as good at wasting money as the politicans! The Catholic church is a huge money and power thing. Jean
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Post by Fossilman on Sept 16, 2013 18:36:03 GMT -5
Well as of a few days ago,there will be the 1,000,000 Semi-trks hitting DC in November,I think the 11th.......That should be interesting to say the least-THUMBS UP!!!
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Post by turnedstone on Sept 19, 2013 5:44:14 GMT -5
gatesofvienna.net/2013/09/the-islamic-scam/ did anyone read what was posted above I posted it here again so that all that did not read it can. Open your mind and understand what he is telling you think about what is going on and understand that it will not stop untill they change or they change you point blank that is what they must do they have no choice it is thier mind set with out changing themselves. George
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