Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Sept 25, 2013 14:55:46 GMT -5
Howdy folks,
Call your senators, the traitors are at it again. Obama. who claims he is not anti gun of course, had Kerry sign this treaty today. While they claim it does not threaten our 2nd amendment rights, it does open the door for the Obama gang to go after some form of national gun tracking/ registration so they can say they are complying with the conditions of the treaty. It also surrenders some of our sovereign powers and gets the international anti gun community a foothold into managing our rights as US citizens.
Fortunately it needs a 2/3 vote of the senate for ratification and our senators hopefully know better Make sure to call or write your senators to let them know not to ratify as last time this happened about forty ( vote was 46-53 I think) some odd treasonous senators ( all Demo-rats of course) voted to ratify.....Mel
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phoenix1647
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Post by phoenix1647 on Sept 25, 2013 14:59:47 GMT -5
and it never ends..
These fools will do anything to bring this country down.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 15:04:56 GMT -5
:facepalm: helens - this is how he is destroying our country. Just one good example.
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Post by helens on Sept 25, 2013 15:24:32 GMT -5
You know, every single day you guys post Obama hate stuff.
I'm sure that on other forums and article posts, the same thing happens.
Now, imagine if you try hard to compromise, try hard to listen to all sides, try hard to make people like you, but despite your best efforts, they ignore your logic and hate you anyway for irrational absurdities (Obama is a Muslim!! Meanwhile crying about his CHRISTIAN Pastor's associations, Obama was not born in the USA, nevermind that he passed the Secret Service background checks before even running for office, etc).
What would a NORMAL person do when people attack him mercilessly and nonstop while he tries to help them?
Lets put it in a life or death situation. You are trying to save a man from a burning building. You climb up a precarious ladder, you get smoke in your eyes, your lungs, you are not feeling so good, but you are determined to help him. You get to him, and he starts calling you names, kicks and tries to bite you. What do you do?
Well, depends on who you are. Some people would be determined to help him, so knock him out so he can be carried down without knocking both of you off the ladder. Others might start cussing back, but still try to help. Others might try to reason with him first, and try to talk him down. Others might actually shove him out the window to his death if he pissed em off badly enough. And then, some might say, die then, bye.. done trying to help people who spit at me no matter what... NOW I do what my FRIENDS want.
There are going to be consequences to treating people badly however, every time. Now, which tact do you think Obama took?
Scream away, do you honestly think he cares? NOTHING he has done to help has been appreciated. What would YOU do if YOU were Obama now? What should Obama do for YOU, the 'opposition' after the things you've said about him? Obama is a MAN, not a messiah, and no man in his right mind would keep turning his cheek.
Tell me what YOU would do to people who keep trying to harm you as you try to listen and help them, when it becomes very clear that you are going to get spit on anyway. Comon. Tell me.
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Post by helens on Sept 25, 2013 15:28:51 GMT -5
It would not surprise me one bit, thanks to you guys, that we ALL get our guns taken in the next few years. Keep screaming. Idiots.
This approach must have worked for you throughout your life. You want the bank to give you a loan, you go up to the loan officer and say... I don't like you, you are a cheating, no good thief who charges outrageous rates! GIVE ME MY LOAN NOW DAMMIT!!!
Or, you are applying for a job, do you say, "LOOK you CREEP. The REASON the economy is bad is because of PIGS like YOU who ship our jobs overseas! GIVE ME A JOB NOW!!"
You must lead very successful lives by taking this approach when you want something from someone. What has really dropped my jaw is that Obama hasn't picked the demographic that is the most obnoxiously against him, and body slammed them.
Oh wait... he is about to. Gee.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 25, 2013 15:43:43 GMT -5
It would not surprise me one bit, thanks to you guys, that we ALL get our guns taken in the next few years. Keep screaming. Idiots. So that must be "you" understood for the subject. Is that "you" singular, or plural? Now you are calling EVERYONE (Oh, 'scuse me, didn't mean to shout : ) on this forum that has a different perspective from you an idiot? Wanna make a note of that one, Don? You're so freaking crazy, that getting your gun taken away from you would be a good thing.
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Post by helens on Sept 25, 2013 15:47:06 GMT -5
The 'YOU' was the collective who keep abusing the man who is in the position to make a difference in their complaints.
Instead of enlisting him as an ally, 'YOU' (those who are pro-gun) chose to make him an enemy. NO ONE will help enemies. Ever. Why would anyone expect Obama to be different than anyone else on the planet?
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rockpickerforever
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 25, 2013 15:50:40 GMT -5
The 'YOU' was the collective who keep abusing the man who is in the position to make a difference in their complaints. Instead of enlisting him as an ally, 'YOU' (those who are pro-gun) chose to make him an enemy. NO ONE will help enemies. Ever. Why would anyone expect Obama to be different than anyone else on the planet? He may be "in the position to make a difference in their complaints" but actually doing something about it is not going to happen. He has his own agenda, he's not working for the people of this country.
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Post by helens on Sept 25, 2013 15:55:19 GMT -5
50% or more of the country disagrees. less than 20% of the country believes Congress, run by Republicans, will help them (or do anything useful for that matter). Since laws are written by and passed by Congress, slamming the President, the only real ally outside the dysfunctional gridlock, is really going to help the cause.
Typically, people with mental problems don't know how to get what they want. They usually don't, and are the first to whine and complain helplessly. I see why the pro-gun lobby has only the less than 20% approval Congress helping them... but they aren't even helping. How's that attitude working for you Jean?
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Post by jakesrocks on Sept 25, 2013 16:07:04 GMT -5
It would not surprise me one bit, thanks to you guys, that we ALL get our guns taken in the next few years. Keep screaming. Idiots. So that must be "you" understood for the subject. Is that "you" singular, or plural? Now you are calling EVERYONE (Oh, 'scuse me, didn't mean to shout : ) on this forum that has a different perspective from you an idiot? Wanna make a note of that one, Don? You're so freaking crazy, that getting your gun taken away from you would be a good thing. Already did. Helen can only get her point across by calling people names. Really a sick, pitiful, self centered excuse of a person.
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Post by jakesrocks on Sept 25, 2013 16:11:50 GMT -5
Gee !! By reading Helen's rants, I'm convinced that she really is an anti gun, anti individual rights, pro Socialist, Obama ass sucking individual. Sure must be lonely being Helen.
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Sept 25, 2013 16:15:51 GMT -5
Ahhh, So Helen, since you cannot defend your hero's anti-American and anti-constitution actions (Hell, we already know he is the enemy. He never was a friend to gun owners) you instead seek to demonize those who do not like his actions. And in addition to that, you seek to say he is a threat to those of us who express our views that are adverse to his and yours. Interesting tactic but it reeks of desperation. I think the American public is finally getting wise to you libs and hope it means the evil Hildabeast has no chance of being elected in 2016 and that the Republicans get the senate back in 2014.....Mel
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Post by helens on Sept 25, 2013 16:22:10 GMT -5
Honestly, I can't defend his actions. At this point, I can't blame him, even if I disagree. It's a shame really.
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Post by helens on Sept 25, 2013 16:30:36 GMT -5
I will bet that Hillary will NOT be the final Democrat candidate in 2016 for President. What do you want to wager on that Mel:)?
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 25, 2013 16:31:23 GMT -5
Ahhh, So Helen, since you cannot defend your hero's anti-American and anti-constitution actions (Hell, we already know he is the enemy. He never was a friend to gun owners) you instead seek to demonize those who do not like his actions. And in addition to that, you seek to say he is a threat to those of us who express our views that are adverse to his and yours. Interesting tactic but it reeks of desperation. I think the American public is finally getting wise to you libs and hope it means the evil Hildabeast has no chance of being elected in 2016 and that the Republicans get the senate back in 2014.....Mel
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Post by helens on Sept 25, 2013 16:34:53 GMT -5
Given the amount of negative exposure Hillary has had, I don't see why the Democratic party would want to run her at all except for the Primaries. We'll see.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 16:37:28 GMT -5
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Post by bushmanbilly on Sept 25, 2013 16:40:11 GMT -5
I will bet that Hillary will NOT be the final Democrat candidate in 2016 for President. What do you want to wager on that Mel:)? Who else does the DNC have. Every other big name has scandal baggage with them. Who is clean and vetted? And besides Barry owes Hilery one for the last election. For not pushing the race thing. If Barry does not want the opposition to be enemies. He should have treated them better in the last presidential race. Remember the Chicago politics? Ring a bell Helen?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 17:15:13 GMT -5
wtf? where didya get that one Billy? rofl
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Post by helens on Sept 25, 2013 17:22:14 GMT -5
Quite a few possibilities actually, seeing that Democrats represent more than 1/2 the country. There are literally dozens of possibilities, every primary has multiple candidates, we'll just have to see.
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