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Post by DirtCleaner on Dec 18, 2013 8:51:20 GMT -5
It's time has come and mucking I did.  First step was to create a lift to easily remove the saw from the pan. The block and tackle is from a kit designed to lift deer for skinning/processing. I need to work on the length of the straps. Twisted the long one to shorten it but that created torque causing the saw to turn as I lifted it.  Here is the pan all mucked out.  The bucket I used to hold the paper bag for filtering. Easily created by cutting the bottom off of a 5-gal bucket. Getting some screen and bolting it to the remaining bucket top.  Insert one paper bag:  Pour the contents of the pan in the bucket….and wait.  The saw cleaned up pretty well.  Now, after an overnight wait, only a few cups have drained through the bag. I have stirred it this morning, hopefully speeding up the process of filtration. |
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Post by Fossilman on Dec 18, 2013 23:33:05 GMT -5
Not a fun job!
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Post by herchenx on Dec 19, 2013 0:49:53 GMT -5
Man, when I clean mine out it is still all muddy around everything, nice work cleaning that out, I don't have the patience to get mine that clean.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 9:39:14 GMT -5
What John said.
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Post by DirtCleaner on Dec 19, 2013 12:02:41 GMT -5
I have started pulling out the sticky rock snot from the bag and hopefully the draining/filtering will proceed.
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Post by 1dave on Dec 19, 2013 12:39:27 GMT -5
Some good ideas. I like your bucket screen!
The separate bottom pan makes getting all the vise stuff out of the way an easy task.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 14:11:56 GMT -5
Why not have two "sets" of oil. One filtering and one cutting?
Liking the removable pan for cleaning. [remember this concept]
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Post by DirtCleaner on Dec 19, 2013 14:12:35 GMT -5
The paper bag filter got super clogged up. After mucking the muck bucket I squeezed the balance of the unfiltered oil through an old t-shirt. (A real official Alabama concert stagehand t-shirt.)  I should probably try the paper bag filter again now that the heavies are out. Dang, now I need another bucket. Can never have enough of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 15:56:01 GMT -5
At school they now pour the ugly oil into a double pillow case and come back a week later. In a week it is finished pouring thru and the super fines have settled out.
I am told it takes weeks for paper bags to drain. But the oil is super clean. Until you cut your first stone.
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on Dec 19, 2013 16:55:00 GMT -5
If you suspend the top (yellow) bucket so that it is only about 2-3 inches into the lower bucket, it will filter at a better rate.
Of course Time & Temp are the 2 things that effect how quickly it will filter, and the amount of muck in the oil too!!, I have my bottom bucket drilled with 2 holes about 3 inches apart that go through both sides about 2-3 inches below the top of the bucket. the upper bucket sits on 2 copper pipes I had lying around and once I pour it in.
I have about 3/4 of my oil through the bucket within 24-36 hours, and then I leave it sit and continue to filter through until my next clean out at which point I am seeing as much as another gallon of clean filtered oil in the bottom bucket.
The only difference for me is that my buddy drilled some 200 1/8 inch holes into the sides and bottom of the top bucket. the holes extend about 2-3 inches up the side from the bottom. Of course I live in Florida so generally the oil filters faster as it stays thinner in warm weather.
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Post by parfive on Dec 19, 2013 17:23:37 GMT -5
I cleaned out a Lortone oil pan a few weeks ago. Did it in two stages. Poured the lightest muck off the top into the bag first. Most of that filtered through in two hours and I added the rest of the lightest muck. Three more hours and that was through. Five hours total for the lightest stuff. Then I added the heaviest muck while scraping the pan out. That was pretty well done after eight hours. Another eighteen hours yielded only another 1/16” of oil in the bottom five-gallon pail. The two-pail setup is still sitting on top of my furnace where it’s nice and warm. Three weeks has yielded just another 10 ounces of oil. Bottom line: Over 95 percent recovery in less than a day and a half. And if you don’t have a skyhook handy, just roll the saw off the pan. Maximum lift req’d: half a saw ~four inches.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 17:36:03 GMT -5
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Post by Steve on Dec 19, 2013 17:50:06 GMT -5
To speed up the oil filtering through a paper bag you need heat. A hot summer day works, unfortunately those are in short supply right now in the northern hemisphere.
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Post by DirtCleaner on Dec 19, 2013 17:51:41 GMT -5
And here is what I had left to put back in.  Had a half gallon of new stuff yet and it got it about 1/8"+ the blade. |
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Post by pauls on Dec 24, 2013 21:16:25 GMT -5
That's an interesting experience, I wondered about filtering the oil but I thought the filter would clog up like yours did so will shelve that idea. I have also been toying with the idea of a centrifugal oil separator, Google it, they are common in the biodiesel crowd. Basically I am thinking of using a large 20Kg gas tank as the shell and spin a smaller 3Kg tank inside it as the separator. The inside separator spins at a horrendous speed so would need to be well balanced, thats my only sticking point at the moment. It would be a fairly complex build and if it vibrated it would be a real pain to rebuild.
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Post by usaret on Dec 24, 2013 22:46:55 GMT -5
Wow,that came out clean ! I'll have to do mine in the spring,too cold out now.
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 25, 2013 17:13:07 GMT -5
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Post by DirtCleaner on Dec 26, 2013 13:05:10 GMT -5
And david, something took a bite out of your blade. But I suppose you already know that. Lee #2 I looked back at the pic and saw the bite. For a minute I thought the blade bit it. But fortunately the blade is notched like that. Funny, I have used it A LOT the last few months and forgot about the notches. |
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Post by phil on Dec 26, 2013 13:19:25 GMT -5
Switch the kind of paper bag you're using. I had that sloooooow problem when I was using a better quality bag from Whole Foods, then I tried a cheaper bag from Smiths (Krogers in disguise) which was fast, but left the oil dirty with lots of fines in it. Then I went back to a bag from an independent grocer which was medium grade and I get 90% drainage in 24 hours, absolutely clean. the heavy sludge I then let sit in the bucket till I need it, and usually get another 5%. But when you're dealing with 14 gallons to start with, even that 5% makes a difference when you have to buy oil. I since asked the store manager if I could have about 10 bags, and he was happy to give them to me. So, point is switch bags?
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 26, 2013 23:35:23 GMT -5
Our main grocery store has gone to a bag that feels thinner but seems to be treated with some kind of a coating that makes it work much slower.
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