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Post by parfive on Jun 22, 2014 0:46:42 GMT -5
Looks like when Pegasus crapped out fifteen months ago, Crudemonitor.ca didn’t list Wabasca Heavy as a heavy conventional crude but as a diluted bitumen – the category for tar sands. Hmm? : )
The Canadian Energy Pipeline Association (CEPA) has referred to Wabasca as “oil sands.”
Also Alberta Oil Sands Industry’s (AOSID) Spring 2012 Quarterly Update
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 22, 2014 13:05:37 GMT -5
Looks like when Pegasus crapped out fifteen months ago, Crudemonitor.ca didn’t list Wabasca Heavy as a heavy conventional crude but as a diluted bitumen – the category for tar sands. Hmm? : ) The Canadian Energy Pipeline Association (CEPA) has referred to Wabasca as “oil sands.” Also Alberta Oil Sands Industry’s (AOSID) Spring 2012 Quarterly Update Rich, I did not know you work in the oilfield. All heavy comes from sand formations. I have worked with both the oilsand SAG"D" and conventional heavy. Trust me the are not the same. If that was the case they would list the size of the Ft. Mac oilsands as 1,000,000 sq. miles its not. Still waiting for the Llyodminster ground water contamination report.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 22, 2014 13:07:35 GMT -5
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Post by parfive on Jun 23, 2014 0:49:00 GMT -5
Here’s a beauty, Dilbit. And you know what the funny part is? It was written by a bunch o’ Canucks* ten years before any friggin’ nitwits ever whined about Josh Fox or Gasland or Mid-East money. ”Methane from leaking wells is widely known in aquifers in Peace River and Lloydminster** areas (Alberta), where there are anecdotes of the gas in kitchen tap water being ignited. Because of the nature of the mechanism, the problem is unlikely to attenuate, and the concentration of the gases in the shallow aquifers will increase with time.” * Now you might wonder what f’ing lunatics wrote that garbage, eh? Sources include Atomic Energy of Canada Limited, a Canadian federal Crown corporation and Canada's largest nuclear science and technology laboratory. Copyright 2000 by the Society of Petroleum Engineers Inc. ** Oh no! Not that place again.
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Post by parfive on Jun 23, 2014 1:50:07 GMT -5
CrudeMonitor.ca screenshot on or before March 30, 2013 ![](http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/parfive/CrudeMonitor_zps423a6e9d.png) Filed under: Inconvenient Tagged: dribble this
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 23, 2014 11:47:23 GMT -5
Here’s a beauty, Dilbit. And you know what the funny part is? It was written by a bunch o’ Canucks* ten years before any friggin’ nitwits ever whined about Josh Fox or Gasland or Mid-East money. ”Methane from leaking wells is widely known in aquifers in Peace River and Lloydminster** areas (Alberta), where there are anecdotes of the gas in kitchen tap water being ignited. Because of the nature of the mechanism, the problem is unlikely to attenuate, and the concentration of the gases in the shallow aquifers will increase with time.” * Now you might wonder what f’ing lunatics wrote that garbage, eh? Sources include Atomic Energy of Canada Limited, a Canadian federal Crown corporation and Canada's largest nuclear science and technology laboratory. Copyright 2000 by the Society of Petroleum Engineers Inc. ** Oh no! Not that place again. With out a link that can be fact checked, it don't mean shit.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 23, 2014 11:56:32 GMT -5
CrudeMonitor.ca screenshot on or before March 30, 2013 ![](http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/parfive/CrudeMonitor_zps423a6e9d.png) Filed under: Inconvenient Tagged: dribble this Key word Rich.. BEFORE.......It has been reclassified. And rightfully so. Its not the same oil. Someone who has as much experiences as you have in the oil patch, with all those years of hands on experience you gained sitting behind a desk or in your mom and dads basement. (not sure which) Should know this. Filed under: dip-shit propaganda Tagged: you don't know F-all about it.
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Post by parfive on Jun 23, 2014 12:57:33 GMT -5
Dilbit for Dummies: Tarballs + steam = dilbit Meanwhile, over at BullshitBilly’s Lipstick on a Pig Emporium: Tarballs + polymer solvents = conventional oil Wabasca = tarballs, baby. Not oil. ![](http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/parfive/Wabascatarballs_zps4bbdd51a.png) And over at Alberta government’s big map, dem wascally Wabasca wabbits still = tarballs, Biwwy. osip.alberta.ca/map/More than 80 per cent of the economically recoverable oil sands bitumen is buried too deeply for surface mining. Most of this cannot be produced from a well unless it is heated or diluted. Heated or Diluted Steam or solvents SAGD or SAP Dilbit or dilbit Same shit, different straw.
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Post by parfive on Jun 23, 2014 13:13:44 GMT -5
Oh, they reclassified it after the Mayflower spill. How convenient. ![](http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/parfive/Funnyguy.jpg)
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 23, 2014 13:26:19 GMT -5
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 23, 2014 13:30:18 GMT -5
Oh, they reclassified it after the Mayflower spill. How convenient. ![](http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/parfive/Funnyguy.jpg) It had to be for the ill-informed Americans like you and a few others. That think oil is oil. Kinda like saying that sandstone and agate are the same. They are both rocks right.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 23, 2014 13:42:59 GMT -5
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 23, 2014 18:52:13 GMT -5
I was dropping the kid off at work and a frac crew parked at the hotel. Just so happened to be a chem van there. ![](http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr330/bushmanbilly/20140623_165843_zpse8a277fa.jpg) If a frac crew comes into your area. Look for a truck like this. It carries the frac additives. All additives are placarded, the only ones that are not. Are to ones that don't meet the international TDG regs or in such a small amount that they are not deemed dangerous. This what they add to the frac's here. ![](http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr330/bushmanbilly/20140623_165851_zps351bbcc0.jpg) 1814 154 Potassium Hydroxide, 45% Composition: Name CAS # % by Weight Potassium hydroxide 1310-58-3 45 Water 7732-18-5 55 Toxicological Data on Ingredients: Potassium hydroxide: ORAL (LD50): Acute: 273 mg/kg [Rat]. 365 mg/kg [Rat]. 388 mg/ kg [Rat]. www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=99246841992 131 EZEFLO* F110 Surfactant 3. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS Component CAS-No Weight %- Range Methanol 67-56-1 15-40 Ethoxylated alcohols Proprietary 10-30 Ethoxylated alcohols #2 Proprietary 10-30 oilandgas.ohiodnr.gov/portals/oilgas/_MSDS/schlumberger/F110.pdf
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Post by transcendental on Jun 24, 2014 7:53:43 GMT -5
I was dropping the kid off at work and a frac crew parked at the hotel. Just so happened to be a chem van there. ![](http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr330/bushmanbilly/20140623_165843_zpse8a277fa.jpg) If a frac crew comes into your area. Look for a truck like this. It carries the frac additives. All additives are placarded, the only ones that are not. Are to ones that don't meet the international TDG regs or in such a small amount that they are not deemed dangerous. This what they add to the frac's here. ![](http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr330/bushmanbilly/20140623_165851_zps351bbcc0.jpg) 1814 154 Potassium Hydroxide, 45% Composition: Name CAS # % by Weight Potassium hydroxide 1310-58-3 45 Water 7732-18-5 55 Toxicological Data on Ingredients: Potassium hydroxide: ORAL (LD50): Acute: 273 mg/kg [Rat]. 365 mg/kg [Rat]. 388 mg/ kg [Rat]. www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=99246841992 131 EZEFLO* F110 Surfactant 3. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS Component CAS-No Weight %- Range Methanol 67-56-1 15-40 Ethoxylated alcohols Proprietary 10-30 Ethoxylated alcohols #2 Proprietary 10-30 oilandgas.ohiodnr.gov/portals/oilgas/_MSDS/schlumberger/F110.pdfThere is no fracking in my area, maybe stephent can catch a photo. I'm not sure where the intellectual property right laws stop and and tdg req start. Any info of the 2 I could find with Google is coming out of canada. Best link I found regarding transportation in general is this: my copy paste is acting up. I gotta do it from another device.
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Post by transcendental on Jun 24, 2014 8:03:31 GMT -5
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Post by parfive on Jun 24, 2014 12:05:41 GMT -5
Took a look at your two links, Bushman. Ha ha, what a joke. First one confirms just about everything leaks like a sieve. So what? We knew that already. Combined Percentage of Deviated Wells in the Test Area: 66% Second one is dated [2002] but that’s your problem. P290Suffield to Cold Lake/Bonnyville into Sask – The Heavy Oil Belt. Cool!!!!! You found Lloydminster, but no cigar. Not even close to Wabasca. See yellow heavy oil zone on map above, eh? : ) A large triangular region of north central Alberta, the ill-defined carbonate triangle: heavy oil about 15% the oil volumes of the oil sands. WhoTF knows where that is – no map – but close enough for the Lipstick on a Pig crowd, eh? And irrelevant anyway – see below.
P295 The Wabasca/Wabiskaw Oil Sands“The bitumen is highly viscous, similar to the Athabasca Oil Sands deposit.” No shit, Sherlock. Exxon bought Wabasca Heavy Tarballs – the Mayflower spill - from Canadian Natural Resources Limited and Cenovus. Cenovus uses SAGD at its Wabasca/Pelican Lake site. CNRL uses polymer flooding at Wabiskaw/Brintnell/Pelican Lake and reports oil viscosities (dead oil) to 80,000cp @ 15 deg. C. 80,000 cp ain’t heavy oil 80,000 cp ain’t extra heavy oil How bout we call it BullshitBilly’s super duper lipstick on a pig extra heavy oil? ![](http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/parfive/HeavyOilClassification_zps33bd4f1b.png)
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 24, 2014 21:04:55 GMT -5
Second one is dated [2002] but that’s your problem. P290Suffield to Cold Lake/Bonnyville into Sask – The Heavy Oil Belt. Cool!!!!! You found Lloydminster, but no cigar. Not even close to Wabasca. The Wabasca is classified as the lowest Member of the Clearwater Formation, and therefore overlies the McMurray Formation conformably, although its is invariably SEPARATED FROM THE McMURRAY reseroir by minimum of 6-8 METERS OF CLAY AND SILTS to perhaps as much as 8-10 meters in some cases.The overlying argillaceous part of the clearwater formation forms a "caprock"Maybe read the whole thing next time. The Wabasca formation is recovered by "CHOPS" -Cold Heavy Oil Production with Sand. See yellow heavy oil zone on map above, eh? : ) A large triangular region of north central Alberta, the ill-defined carbonate triangle: heavy oil about 15% the oil volumes of the oil sands. WhoTF knows where that is – no map – but close enough for the Lipstick on a Pig crowd, eh? And irrelevant anyway – see below. You can use this one or the you had on a earlier post. ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) ![](http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr330/bushmanbilly/6565401-13733197333125777-Stephan-Dube_zps81d4e6e2.png)
P295 The Wabasca/Wabiskaw Oil Sands“The bitumen is highly viscous, similar to the Athabasca Oil Sands deposit.” No shit, Sherlock. Exxon bought Wabasca Heavy Tarballs – the Mayflower spill - from Canadian Natural Resources Limited and Cenovus. Cenovus uses SAGD at its Wabasca/Pelican Lake site. CNRL uses polymer flooding at Wabiskaw/Brintnell/Pelican Lake and reports oil viscosities (dead oil) to 80,000cp @ 15 deg. C. They are in d a different formation that underlines the Wabasca formation see above inserted text. You have learned well Grasshopper. You have mastered the Helen Technic. You defend and deflect well. Soon you might be able to snatch the oil from my hand. ![](http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr330/bushmanbilly/128751266440304579_zps93fe9340.jpg)
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 24, 2014 21:30:15 GMT -5
Some thing fishy in your state, I can't see how a state gov. can over rule a N. American law when regarding the transportation of dangerous goods. I'm posting a video of a frac operation in the heart of a Pennsylvania. All the trucks in that video are placarded with TDG tags.
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Post by parfive on Jun 24, 2014 22:09:24 GMT -5
Exxon bought Wabasca Heavy Tarballs – the Mayflower spill - from Canadian Natural Resources Limited and Cenovus.
Cenovus uses SAGD at its Wabasca/Pelican Lake site. CNRL uses polymer flooding at Wabiskaw/Brintnell/Pelican Lake and reports oil viscosities (dead oil) to 80,000cp @ 15 deg. C.
NO CHOPS
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 24, 2014 22:29:27 GMT -5
Exxon bought Wabasca Heavy Tarballs – the Mayflower spill - from Canadian Natural Resources Limited and Cenovus. Cenovus uses SAGD at its Wabasca/Pelican Lake site. CNRL uses polymer flooding at Wabiskaw/Brintnell/Pelican Lake and reports oil viscosities (dead oil) to 80,000cp @ 15 deg. C. NO CHOPSCenovus Energy Inc. is seeking regulatory approval for the proposed Pelican Lake Grand Rapids Project (the Project). The Project is located in the Greater Pelican Region, approximately 300 kilometres north of Edmonton. It is situated primarily in Townships 81-83 and Ranges 20-23 W4. The nearest communities to the Project are Wabasca and Bigstone Cree Nation. We will use a technology called Steam-Assisted Gravity Drainage (SAGD) to recover oil from the Upper Grand Rapids formation. Once the SAGD operation is established, our plans are to incorporate co-injection of light hydrocarbons, referred to as Solvent Aided Process (SAP) where economically feasible. By co-injecting light hydrocarbons, which are already present in the reservoir, with the steam, the SAGD recovery operation is improved. This improvement is expected to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and water usage per barrel of oil while increasing oil production and oil recovery rates. The Project is expected to have a production capacity of 180,000 barrels of oil per day, constructed in phases over the estimated 40 year life of the project. ![](http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr330/bushmanbilly/download5_zpsdaedd13a.jpg)
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