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Post by nowyo on Jun 27, 2014 22:08:20 GMT -5
Ha, the plant that ate James, or James became a plant. Pretty cool stuff.
Russ
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2014 3:42:05 GMT -5
Sorry guys, I am still here. Remember the cartoons when the guy jumps in the river w/gators and come out with alligator boots and suitcase.... Jean, about 15% of my sales are water hyacinth. They are the absolute most dangerous plant to collect. Scooping them up like laundry and bagging them. Invariably a water moccasin gets scooped up with them and is not happy. A big arm full w/a moccasin glaring you in the face is no fun. Learned to beat on them with a stick before grabbing a hand full. I have had on numerous occasions been asked to plant lotus in a pond/lake on a big estate. I would quote them a fat price to colonize a big pond. And do it in 30 minutes w/4 pots that wholesale for $25 each. For instance, Evander Hollyfield's lake. And told him I would slap the money out of him if he didn't pay me. Planted the little pond behind his cabin too.  |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2014 4:08:38 GMT -5
Near Birmingham Alabama I collected Horsetail (Equisetum) fossils that were sections of trunks that were 9-10 inches in diameter near the coal fields. Horsetail is odd in that it is a fern. In this University of Florida article is mention of prehistoric Horsetail 12 inches in diameter and 90 feet tall. And the prehistoric genus 'Calamites' may have been the largest interconnected living organism on earth. www2.fiu.edu/~chusb001/GiantEquisetum/HowLarge.html "In the past, both woody and herbaceous sphenopsids have reached large sizes, both in terms of aerial stem size and, probably, overall sporophyte size (i.e. the size of the whole interconnected network of rhizomes and aerial stems). The largest horsetails were woody (i.e. produced secondary xylem1) and belonged to the genus Calamites (Calamitaceae). The aerial stems of these plants sometimes attained heights of up to 30 m and diameters of up to 30 cm ( Scagel et al., 1984 ), although these stems were determinate in growth like those of modern horsetails (Eggert, 1962). As in modern Equiseta, the clonal growth of Calamites via large underground rhizomes was probably indefinite and very extensive (Niklas, 1997). Niklas (1997) stated that "using modern horsetails as a scale for gauging overall size, we can estimate that the sporophytes of Calamites may have been the largest organisms that ever lived." " Chilean Horsetail:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 10:58:43 GMT -5
wow, I always thought equisetum was a sedge.
Sedges have edges,
and rushes are round,
and grases have nodes,
from the top to the ground.
and now I learn they are ferns!
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2014 13:36:45 GMT -5
wow, I always thought equisetum was a sedge. Sedges have edges, and rushes are round, and grases have nodes, from the top to the ground. and now I learn they are ferns! Equisetum definatly dances to it's own drummer. A true leftover from ages gone by. excellant rhyme Scott. Wife says you know more than me. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 28, 2014 13:56:54 GMT -5
Yes, nifty prose. But don't repeat it to him six months from now, or he will think you are stalking him, lol.
Asparagus is another fern. You can see the similarities to the horsetail.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 28, 2014 18:46:13 GMT -5
wow, I always thought equisetum was a sedge. Sedges have edges, and rushes are round, and grases have nodes, from the top to the ground Hey, wait a minute... Doesn't it go And grasses have roots
from their nodes to the ground? It's your ditty, get it right, would ya? (Sorry, Scott, couldn't resist!  ) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 18:50:11 GMT -5
wow, I always thought equisetum was a sedge. Sedges have edges, and rushes are round, and grases have nodes, from the top to the ground Hey, wait a minute... Doesn't it go And grasses have roots
from their nodes to the ground? It's your ditty, get it right, would ya? (Sorry, Scott, couldn't resist! ) No. Mine is correct. Everybody has roots. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 28, 2014 18:57:42 GMT -5
Okay, I'm sure you must be right, Kunta Kinte. Everybody has roots. I must have misremembered.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 29, 2014 7:06:16 GMT -5
You guys are master of banter. Scott will keep you on your toes. Good job Jean.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 29, 2014 7:08:44 GMT -5
Never knew asparagus is a fern. It grows on fence lines in eastern South Carolina like a weed. Lucky them.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 29, 2014 15:12:34 GMT -5
There is also a plant called asparagus fern, but that's a different animal. It is neither an edible vegetable or a fern.
The edible asparagus is the growing shoots of the plant. Cut them when they are young and tender.
 
Here's some info on growing them: link I imagine they grow pretty fast as well. |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 2, 2014 20:07:16 GMT -5
There is also a plant called asparagus fern, but that's a different animal. It is neither an edible vegetable or a fern.
The edible asparagus is the growing shoots of the plant. Cut them when they are young and tender.
Here's some info on growing them: link I imagine they grow pretty fast as well. So there are 3 categories 1 asparagus fern 2 animal fern 3 asparagus(it just happens to be a fern) So, what is an animal fern ?? |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jul 2, 2014 21:05:30 GMT -5
Hmmm, animal, vegetable or mineral? I'd have to say vegetable. You can't be both an animal and a vegetable at the same time, can you? Well, maybe some people can be.
No, I didn't mean an animal fern. Was just saying that the asparagus fern is a different thing altogether, not a fern or a vegetable. A horse of a different color, if you will.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 2, 2014 21:21:57 GMT -5
Hmmm, animal, vegetable or mineral? I'd have to say vegetable. You can't be both an animal and a vegetable at the same time, can you? Well, maybe some people can be. No, I didn't mean an animal fern. Was just saying that the asparagus fern is a different thing altogether, not a fern or a vegetable. A horse of a different color, if you will. Now we have a horse fern. is that the same as horsetail ? a fern w/a tail. Ha. I am worn out. sun up to sun down for 3 days. 99F-101F everyday plus rains upping the humidity. I had a solution for that today. I passed a spring today. A gusher. Guessing about 3000 gallons a minute. Coooold, definite effect on the manhood-ha. I took a selfy, trying not to pass out from cold shock and drop the camera  You can see how much water is flowing up. There were 2 smaller ones within 100 feet  Just drove the boat up in there. The whole area was cool and the aluminum boat got cold. There were a few mullet in there too. They come up from the ocean.  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jul 3, 2014 0:05:56 GMT -5
Ah, that certainly looks refreshing! Fountain of Youth? Ha!
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Post by jamesp on Jul 4, 2014 8:28:11 GMT -5
Ah, that certainly looks refreshing! Fountain of Youth? Ha! Maybe Ponce de Leon stopped here and got young too Jean. |
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Post by ash on Jul 5, 2014 20:53:24 GMT -5
Planted in Lake Pontchartrain and take over the lake in 4 months. Can it live in salt water? If not, then a no go in Lake Ponchatrain. The lake is a great place to catch catfish, bass, speckled trout, redfish and crabs lol....they got it all out there. But the lake is some dangerous...it can be a killer. |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 5, 2014 21:03:15 GMT -5
Planted in Lake Pontchartrain and take over the lake in 4 months. Can it live in salt water? If not, then a no go in Lake Ponchatrain. The lake is a great place to catch catfish, bass, speckled trout, redfish and crabs lol....they got it all out there. But the lake is some dangerous...it can be a killer. When you say a killer Ash, do you mean it gets rough when the wind starts up ? Oh, lotus are sensitive to salt, no lotus in salt/brackish water. |
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Post by ash on Jul 5, 2014 21:23:00 GMT -5
yes. Really rough. Lake Maurepas is actually worse, bout 5-10' deep so you have to be careful. Lake Ponchatrain is a bit deeper, bout 20 if memory serves, though there is a 60' hole by the Lake front airport where we used to catch BIG trout before Katrina, now not so much. Squalls can come up and if you are in a small boat in the middle, can be a tough situation. You keep going through the Rigolets or Lake St. Catherine or Chef's Pass to Lake Borgne(all three will get you there but the lake is another shallow one)...look at the horizon and next stop Cuba lol
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