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Post by jamesp on Feb 19, 2015 20:13:57 GMT -5
Heat pump only works in cooling mode, so heat is all wood at this cabin. Green wood pre-dryer on shelf above stove. All oak. 2 foot thick rock foundation that James laid. 1/4 inch thick sch 20 stove pipe Wood dump next to basement. Stove heats whole basement and up thru the floor. Oak forest in background supplies more than enough wood.
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Post by quartz on Feb 20, 2015 1:08:54 GMT -5
Like that chimney pipe, no back draft troubles there.
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Post by snowmom on Feb 20, 2015 6:08:09 GMT -5
very common for folks across the Midwest and North to heat with wood. The wood burning furnaces have been so popular that they are banned in many cities due to complaints about the smoke. In some places even wood burning fireplaces are banned. Interesting world we live in. ( ancient Chinese curse says "may you live in interesting times" ) I love the smell of a wood fire burning. Stay warm!
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Post by jamesp on Feb 20, 2015 6:15:05 GMT -5
Like that chimney pipe, no back draft troubles there. It draws fine, helps when it gets hot. Better if insulated, a pile of paper sends a quick burst of heat to help it draw when initially starting. Stove is 1950 Atlanta Stove Works. Holds 26 inch logs. Been there for 20 years. Paid $50 for it. 12F yesterday with high of 26F. 14F this morn. Hats off to you northern folks. Cold weather dominates about everything that can be done outside.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 20, 2015 6:22:51 GMT -5
very common for folks across the Midwest and North to heat with wood. The wood burning furnaces have been so popular that they are banned in many cities due to complaints about the smoke. In some places even wood burning fireplaces are banned. Interesting world we live in. ( ancient Chinese curse says "may you live in interesting times" ) I love the smell of a wood fire burning. Stay warm! Wood does pollute Deb. In a high population area I could only imagine. Thankful to live out in the country I suppose. Wood burning season pretty short down here making it more allowable. My house is tiny and the walls are 4 inch foam and 4 inch glass insulation on top of that so house is efficient. But single layer glass windows. New building codes require double insulated windows. Same deal about regulations.
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Post by snowmom on Feb 20, 2015 6:33:22 GMT -5
lots of places in the country still heat with wood though, my sister lives in central IL and heats with wood (in a small town!) and my parents heated with wood, it was common then and still is, to have a furnace set up to burn wood and if the temp went down too far (usually in the middle of the night) the furnace would kick in with gas heat a time or two before the sun came up. They are still sold, just can't be used as many places as they used to be. Yep, that is good efficient building. 24 below here. Last year we had ice on the ceiling and walls first night this cold, windows were the original leaky double hung from 1948, we had new windows installed recently. What a difference!
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Feb 20, 2015 8:22:23 GMT -5
I use an indoor wood stove at my vacation cabin but with the high cost of propane and abundance of available wood a lot of year round people up north are switching to outdoor wood boilers. These units heat your house and your water too. You can throw in any wood no matter how crappy it is. The large models are big enough to toss in wood pallets which is great for people that can get those for free. www.whitepineheating.com/Chuck
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 20, 2015 10:46:27 GMT -5
Use to burn wood,when I lived in Montana-two story house with completely wood heat... Kept me busy,but enjoyed cutting and splitting wood..
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Post by jamesp on Feb 20, 2015 11:10:56 GMT -5
lots of places in the country still heat with wood though, my sister lives in central IL and heats with wood (in a small town!) and my parents heated with wood, it was common then and still is, to have a furnace set up to burn wood and if the temp went down too far (usually in the middle of the night) the furnace would kick in with gas heat a time or two before the sun came up. They are still sold, just can't be used as many places as they used to be. Yep, that is good efficient building. 24 below here. Last year we had ice on the ceiling and walls first night this cold, windows were the original leaky double hung from 1948, we had new windows installed recently. What a difference! Living south of the Great Lakes must be subject to wind, humidity and cold. Grandma lived in Erie and that town caught it all. -24F not fathomable, add wind and it's got to be deadly. Alpena has to be a cold one. Ice on the ceiling and walls Dang
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Post by jamesp on Feb 20, 2015 11:27:02 GMT -5
I use an indoor wood stove at my vacation cabin but with the high cost of propane and abundance of available wood a lot of year round people up north are switching to outdoor wood boilers. These units heat your house and your water too. You can throw in any wood no matter how crappy it is. The large models are big enough to toss in wood pallets which is great for people that can get those for free. www.whitepineheating.com/Chuck That's a serious wood burner ! Logistics of doing wood outside is good thinking. Whole crates, yes. Big chunks of wood,yes. Heating a large tank of water in the basement sounds like a good way. The barn out front has a large wood burner in it with water lines running through it. Pipes in the floor. It is nice. That outside boiler is cleaner and keeps the mess outside. Nice to be in a well heated cabin w/wood heater though. Where is your cabin Chuck, seems like it is close to the shore of L. Michigan ? Funny thing, the large lakes in central Florida are on the edge of citrus zone. Most of the citrus is grown on the south side of the lake to warm the north winds preventing frost and freeze. A 50 foot change in elevation over the distance of a 1/4 mile leaving one of those lakes can change two climate zones. Vegetation around lake is another whole world as opposed to 50 feet in elevation just next to the lake. Great Lakes pick up moisture. I see snow maps and the way the south side of those lakes get the precip.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 20, 2015 11:29:47 GMT -5
Use to burn wood,when I lived in Montana-two story house with completely wood heat... Kept me busy,but enjoyed cutting and splitting wood.. Doing wood is one thing that will keep you warm Michael. Lots of activity. As cold as it gets up there you had to stoke that fire a lot. Firewood fun, don't know why.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Feb 20, 2015 11:55:19 GMT -5
I use an indoor wood stove at my vacation cabin but with the high cost of propane and abundance of available wood a lot of year round people up north are switching to outdoor wood boilers. These units heat your house and your water too. You can throw in any wood no matter how crappy it is. The large models are big enough to toss in wood pallets which is great for people that can get those for free. www.whitepineheating.com/Chuck That's a serious wood burner ! Logistics of doing wood outside is good thinking. Whole crates, yes. Big chunks of wood,yes. Heating a large tank of water in the basement sounds like a good way. The barn out front has a large wood burner in it with water lines running through it. Pipes in the floor. It is nice. That outside boiler is cleaner and keeps the mess outside. Nice to be in a well heated cabin w/wood heater though. Where is your cabin Chuck, seems like it is close to the shore of L. Michigan ? Funny thing, the large lakes in central Florida are on the edge of citrus zone. Most of the citrus is grown on the south side of the lake to warm the north winds preventing frost and freeze. A 50 foot change in elevation over the distance of a 1/4 mile leaving one of those lakes can change two climate zones. Vegetation around lake is another whole world as opposed to 50 feet in elevation just next to the lake. Great Lakes pick up moisture. I see snow maps and the way the south side of those lakes get the precip. Cabin is on Drummond Island. My family had a good chunk of land way back and now it has been split up so about a dozen of us all have 10-20 acre parcels with places on them. Big family get togethers at all the summer holidays. The island is 88,000 acres and has about 60 inland lakes. I think about 60 percent of land is still state land. 80 miles of crazy terrain ORV trails. The only event ORV event in Michigan that is sponsored by JEEP is held on the island every year. six hour drive with good road conditions and no traffic this shows the whole island real good including the large quarry A little closer to show all the state land around us and how close to the quarry. We can head out into the woods behind the cabin on the 4-wheelers and go right into the quarry without ever getting on any roads And this is my place as close as google earth will get. my dads place is to the right and he was even home. I see his jeep in the driveway,lol Chuck
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Post by jamesp on Feb 20, 2015 13:54:29 GMT -5
I had to hover around from above on GE and check out the island Chuck. Looks like a dream. And lots of state land to limit development. It does not get much better than that. Looks like dolomite is mined there judging from the name of one of the roads. Paradise, and family to enjoy it with. Wish you had a closer drive. I see the ferry access. Tons of islands and lakes. Fossil shelves. Which way do you pick to go ??
I think you are lucky I do not live close to you. I would be bugging you to let me go. Bring my raggedy 3 wheelers and show y'all how to ride. Looks like a genuine piece of history. How many generations does your family go back ? Family land divisions can cause issues ha, best to draw straws. Looks like Dad has the right idea, he must stay there full time. Good on you Chuck.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Feb 20, 2015 14:27:56 GMT -5
Thanks James. It is a little slice of paradise. I have already willed my three kids each 3 acres so they will be fourth generation. I had a big red honda 350 three wheeler years ago they were fun but now we are mostly 4 wheels or 2. mostly toys for fun but had to get one work horse to get the others unstuck,lol My dad rode 4-wheelers up there for many years but he upgraded last year to a new toy. This is riding in style in those trails. I just took this photo a couple weekes ago when I had his jeep to install the fancy red lighting. Chuck
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Post by jamesp on Feb 20, 2015 17:55:50 GMT -5
Ha, looks like paradise. ATV's galore. However Dad has the Cadillac. 4 generations, lot's of stories and family history no doubt. Cool story, cool spot. I see a winch is a tool of choice, wondering if Dad or the kids get stuck the most. What is the coldest temp recorded on that island and how to get across on the ferry when the lake freezes ? There is a golf course out there too. Yes, paradise. love the boulder on the big Polaris.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 20, 2015 19:32:21 GMT -5
James, you need one of these to keep your wood burning stove fed, lol.
Who thinks of these things?
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Post by jamesp on Feb 20, 2015 19:53:52 GMT -5
Too slow Jean. Me and fossilman could put that candy arse machine to shame with a C saw and a splitting wedge. Maybe we should stick with this machine.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 20, 2015 20:20:14 GMT -5
I'll bet your shoulders and back still get a workout.
How 'bout a chainsaw? This is a real man's chainsaw, lol.
No wood burning here, don't even have a regular fireplace here. But then, when it only gets into the 50s at night, that's okay by me .
We only need to get firewood for when we go to the desert, or Quartzsite.
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Post by Sabre52 on Feb 20, 2015 23:47:56 GMT -5
We used nothing but wood heat at our old ranch house we had in Hunters valley, CA. I had three wood sheds, one with pine for kindling and the others all oak as Blue Oak was the dominant tree on the ranch. Never any shortage of trees that would fall across our roads and that oak burned long and hot. I'd bank the woodstove before bed and still have hot coals in the AM. Very pleasant way to heat a home but man I had to haul a lot of ash in the winter.
Funny though. The place I dumped the wood ash was really loved by the wild turkeys who would create huge plumes of ash as they took their daily dust baths in the ash pile. First time we saw the plume they threw up we thought the ash pile had got some hot ashes and caught on fire.....Mel
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Post by jamesp on Feb 21, 2015 3:25:59 GMT -5
We used nothing but wood heat at our old ranch house we had in Hunters valley, CA. I had three wood sheds, one with pine for kindling and the others all oak as Blue Oak was the dominant tree on the ranch. Never any shortage of trees that would fall across our roads and that oak burned long and hot. I'd bank the woodstove before bed and still have hot coals in the AM. Very pleasant way to heat a home but man I had to haul a lot of ash in the winter. Funny though. The place I dumped the wood ash was really loved by the wild turkeys who would create huge plumes of ash as they took their daily dust baths in the ash pile. First time we saw the plume they threw up we thought the ash pile had got some hot ashes and caught on fire.....Mel Who would have thought that turkeys like to bathe in ash. I have built camp fires a few times out west with desert wood. It is dry wood but burns as if soaked in oil or kerosene. It burns very hot and long. As if the sap was dense and plasticized. Wood here in the humid south has to be seasoned about a year to burn well.
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