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Post by gingerkid on Apr 20, 2015 11:39:24 GMT -5
After 24 hours the clay has a sensuous texture; I think I am needing some psychological help here. Oh dear. Hilarious, jamesp! I am in tears from laughing. Georgia clay as an aphrodisiac. lol! You could market it as "Aphrodite var Georgia clay."
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Post by jamesp on Apr 20, 2015 11:46:24 GMT -5
After 24 hours the clay has a sensuous texture; I think I am needing some psychological help here. Oh dear. Hilarious, jamesp! I am in tears from laughing. Georgia clay as an aphrodisiac. lol! You could market it as "Aphrodite var Georgia clay." I hate to say this, but I took 2 gals down to the pure white kaolin pits on dates back in the day. Can you believe that both of them wanted to go back and do the mud bath thing, many times... Even made me bring back buckets of it to use in their back yard kinda like for use when sun bathing. Must be the memories. Kinda sick eh ??
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 20, 2015 11:51:56 GMT -5
ROFL!!! jamesp, please no vids of you rolling in the 'sensual' clay. Mrs. Denise is probably going to lock you out of the house if you do roll around in it... or try to persuade her to join you. LOL!
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Post by jamesp on Apr 20, 2015 11:53:03 GMT -5
ROFL!!! jamesp, please no vids of you rolling in the 'sensual' clay. Mrs. Denise is probably going to lock you out of the house if you do roll around in it... or try to persuade her to join you. LOL! Nothing like finding the animal in a lady...
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 20, 2015 12:05:12 GMT -5
ahem, I don't know, jamesp, lol. Way off topic and my apologies, James. Fixin' to dump your corals along with fossil goodies from manofglass and snowmom, and pretties from Tommy. Do you tumble your coral in AO for good results or should I stick to SC? If you do use the AO, which grit?
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Post by jamesp on Apr 20, 2015 12:12:13 GMT -5
In the rotary I do coarse w/SiC, then SiC 220 or AO 220, then AO 500 and then AO 14,000 polish. But I let the rocks run a good 10-14 days in AO 500 to skip AO 1000 pre-polish gingerkid. Good luck. Photos mandatory
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 20, 2015 12:24:39 GMT -5
Thank you for your expert advice, jamesp! I appreciate it! Next stage is 120/220 SC. I have 1000 AO grit and 700 SC grit for in-between use of pre-polish and polish stage. Guess that's when these two grits are supposed to be used?? I have not used them before for tumbling. I have a bowl designated for them to use in the vibe, and wondered if that'll work? Have some stuff made by Raytech for prepolish called Iolox. I think I wrote down its equivalent concerning grit, but will have to look it up in my "tumbling journal ." I took some pics of the first week that the pretties tumbled around in 60/90 grit and will post them with the tumble disasters when completed.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 20, 2015 13:46:54 GMT -5
gingerkidFor the rotary i would do your SiC 120/220 for 10-14 days then 700 SiC for a week to ten then AO 1000 for a week to ten then polish for a week to 2 weeks depending on the shine you want to achieve. You mentioned pre-polish, AO 1000 is a great pre-polish. So doing pre-polish would be redundant. Unless your polish is 50,000 or 100,000. It is best if you know the numbers.... The vibe is a separate subject. Rotary 12/220 for 10-14, same as above. Then do the vibe at the SiC 700 for 3 days, AO 1000 for 3 days, then the polish-depending on it's number. 700 SiC is only used for grinding aardvark teeth. where in the world did that come from.
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 20, 2015 14:38:03 GMT -5
The vibe is a separate subject. Rotary 12/220 for 10-14, same as above. Then do the vibe at the SiC 700 for 3 days, AO 1000 for 3 days, then the polish-depending on it's number. Many Thanks, James! I'll give this a try. 700 SiC is only used for grinding aardvark teeth. where in the world did that come from. ROFL! It came with the Raytech TV-5 kit. It has 700F on it, so I guess that is SC, but, I am not sure. ?? Will check notes for grit equivalent for final polish which is Raybrite, and the Iolox pre-polish, although one of our forum members may know that owns or previously owned the TV-5. Gotta mow the fine crop of dandelions in our back yard before I clean out the tumbles. So glad to see the sun.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Apr 20, 2015 15:31:47 GMT -5
i need to wet it, add a few agates and tumble just to make a nice clay paste for a body suit. Or have a mass clay soaking pit and charge hotties to come bath in it. or would that be the other way around... Yeah, me thinks the second choice, other way around
Was reading about potter's clay Jean. They add about 10% silica sand to the clay for firing and mechanical reasons. So, I probably have clay like the red above that has little silica for tumbling. Trying to avoid the silica for polishing slurry. Some of it deposited as suspended particulates with little sand, like river banks and ancient deposits that cover parts of Georgia and about every other state. Going to visit Atlanta Clay Company. Never knew it existed, and about 2 miles from where I grew up. The potters clay I used (this was awhile back) was very smooth in texture, as I recall. Like wetted talcum powder on a ball. But I did see that they add sand to some clays for body and various other reasons.
You should stop by the Atlanta Clay Company, I'm sure they can learn ya more about clay than you thought there was to know (and you are already highly edjamucated on the subject ). And maybe more than you want to know, lol. Be sure to tell them what you want to use it for. I'm sure they have never heard the likes of that before, and will get a kick out of it!
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Post by jamesp on Apr 20, 2015 17:24:50 GMT -5
gingerkid"It came with the Raytech TV-5 kit. It has 700F on it, so I guess that is SC, but, I am not sure. ?? Will check notes for grit equivalent for final polish which is Raybrite, and the Iolox pre-polish, although one of our forum members may know that owns or previously owned the TV-5." Those named grits have gotten me in trouble before. Just know that SiC is black/grey. So 700F is hard to define 'F' ??. If it is white, light grey, or brown it is probably AO. Raybrite and lolox is an "i do not know". But the recipe I mentioned should work for 700 if it is SiC or AO. If Raybrite is final polish supplied with a tumbler it is probably fine, and is most likely 10,000-14,000. Someone here will certainly know. As will Raytech. As mentioned, it is easier to figure recipe if you know the numerical size. Especially after all the work put into tumbling.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 20, 2015 17:39:01 GMT -5
I am looking forward to going to the clay company rockpickerforever. I feel certain they will understand my request for a mud hole to watch hard bodies wrestling. I guess I would have to pay money to have participants. Perhaps I should concentrate on the science side of clay. I have been thinking about making a clay oven/furnace. A big one. Or two. One for cooking food and one for melting things like glass. I had seen them in Peru; simple and effective. They were cooking fish and deer in them. They were not pretty, but got the job done. There are 3 story tall stone fire places back in the woods still standing after 150 years mortared with red clay. The rocks laid in a fashion so that the water dripped to the outside of the structure, and not wetting the clay, an art form. Was reading about a few minor additives to make our local clay resemble very fine potter's clays. Brick clays etc. Maybe an adobe ...a redneck adobe.
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 22, 2015 23:22:34 GMT -5
jamesp, I looked through the instructions for the TV-5, and I wrote down some notes. The 700F is stated as 'silicon carbide 700F.' Don't have a clue what the "F" represents. Maybe 'fine?' I wrote down that the Iolox 50 is the same as pre-polish AO (500 AO) and Raybrite TL is the same as ultra-fine AO. Maybe Peruano or 1nickthegreek can help with grit equivalents for these?
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Post by jamesp on Apr 23, 2015 7:35:10 GMT -5
700 SiC to AO 1000 to Raybrite polish should get it done gingerkid. I would run the 120/220 for two weeks minimum though, bit of a jump from 120/220 to 700 SiC. But SiC 700 is probably similar to the normal AO 500 step.
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