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Post by spiritstone on Aug 7, 2015 12:26:41 GMT -5
A federal mine cleanup crew unleashed a million-gallon mine toxic waste spill that sent a plume of orange-ish muck down a river in southwest Colorado on Thursday.
The US Environmental Protection Agency said that a cleanup team was working with heavy equipment Wednesday morning to secure an entrance to the Gold King Mine. Workers instead released an estimated 1 million gallons of mine waste into Cement Creek.
Contaminants coursed down the creek, which runs from around Silverton, Colorado, into the Animas River before flowing into the San Juan River in New Mexico and joining the Colorado River in Utah.
Officials say that the water, believed to now contain high amounts of iron and zinc, does not pose a threat to drinking water. However, fears remain that it may kill fish and other animals after the river's acidity increased 100-fold.
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Post by jakesrocks on Aug 7, 2015 12:38:30 GMT -5
Trust the feds to do thing right.
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Post by spiritstone on Aug 7, 2015 13:46:08 GMT -5
Similar circumstances that caused a "Nasty" breach of a tailing pond in BC last year.
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Post by chassroc on Aug 7, 2015 17:27:53 GMT -5
Officials say that the water, believed to now contain high amounts of iron and zinc, does not pose a threat to drinking water. However, fears remain that it may kill fish and other animals after the river's acidity increased 100-fold. What officials! are they insane? I'd like to force them to drink it...it's only iron and zinc... People mine and make money but never clean up after themselves and never pay when the bill comes due. Fears remain that it may kill fish and other animals..Duh! must be the same officials...lets have them swim in this river for a day and see if it kills them
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Post by bushmanbilly on Aug 7, 2015 21:36:46 GMT -5
Officials say that the water, believed to now contain high amounts of iron and zinc, does not pose a threat to drinking water. However, fears remain that it may kill fish and other animals after the river's acidity increased 100-fold. What officials! are they insane? I'd like to force them to drink it...it's only iron and zinc... People mine and make money but never clean up after themselves and never pay when the bill comes due. Fears remain that it may kill fish and other animals..Duh! must be the same officials...lets have them swim in this river for a day and see if it kills them I don't know about your country Charlie. But here in Canada all mines have to post reclamation bonds before mines are approved. I know this first hand with my gold claim. I just did a testing project consisting of 5 small holes about 20' x 20' x8'deep. Never used up more than 1 acre of land with no commercial trees removed. $5000 bond was charged to me. I get it back after I prove that I did the reclaim. All oil and gas wells in Canada require a reclaim bond equal to the amount for reclaiming the land plus abandoning the well. That way if a company skips town or goes bankrupt, the tax payers are not stuck with the cleanup costs. EPA must have all their good sheep at the coal plants.
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Post by chassroc on Aug 8, 2015 9:21:32 GMT -5
Billy...Your faith in reclamation bonds is wonderful and I applaud your naivety.
I assume you object to "People mine and make money but never clean up after themselves and never pay when the bill comes due."
I assume you do agree that a sane person would not drink that water and that it is harmful to fish and animal life; correct me if I am wrong.
If everyone cleaned up the mining mess they made, there would be no need for EPA. The coal tailing pond messes in Tennesee and the aforementioned "Nasty" breach of a tailing pond in BC last year would have never happened. Taxpayers are on the hook quite often it seems. I applaud you for obeying the law but it is obvious that there are others who do not.
Charlie
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Post by bushmanbilly on Aug 8, 2015 9:49:52 GMT -5
Yes Charlie you assumed right. Just because I'm pro oil and a conservative. Does not mean I am for destroying the environment. I have the attitude that you leave it better than it was. Like what the oilsand company's do.
The breach in BC was at an active mine. The costs are being covered by the mining company and the insurance they carry. Plus the press made it sound worse than it was. My understanding that it was one of the last settling ponds. So the tailing were in the last phase before being cleared for release and for recycle. I could be wrong on this, but that is my understanding from talking with the some of the locals in Likely BC.
As for the nasty messes left by past mines. Trumps words the other night were spot on about political donations. Maybe its time for you folks to reform your election laws. People should maybe be more concerned on why one would spend a billion to get a $400,000 job. Time to limit corporate donations and end PAC's.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Aug 8, 2015 10:22:09 GMT -5
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Post by chassroc on Aug 8, 2015 11:43:06 GMT -5
Ahh but then we wouldn't have the best government money can buy
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Post by chassroc on Aug 8, 2015 11:49:36 GMT -5
Yes Charlie you assumed right. Just because I'm pro oil and a conservative. Does not mean I am for destroying the environment. I have the attitude that you leave it better than it was. Like what the oilsand company's do. The breach in BC was at an active mine. The costs are being covered by the mining company and the insurance they carry. Plus the press made it sound worse than it was. My understanding that it was one of the last settling ponds. So the tailing were in the last phase before being cleared for release and for recycle. I could be wrong on this, but that is my understanding from talking with the some of the locals in Likely BC. As for the nasty messes left by past mines. Trumps words the other night were spot on about political donations. Maybe its time for you folks to reform your election laws. People should maybe be more concerned on why one would spend a billion to get a $400,000 job. Time to limit corporate donations and end PAC's. Yes...very hard to understand Trump's appeal to "CON"servatives or maybe that explains it (he's is CONning people). Trump make no bones about CONning the system for all it is worth. He left Atlantic City in shambles and does so with pride. He cares not for the peoples whose lives are ruined and only for the next million. He steps all over people and gets away with it because of his money. Would be interesting to see how he would talk about minorities if he were on the streets where I grew up. Just like you don't see with many on the Internet there would be a little more civility person mano-o-mano.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Aug 8, 2015 13:11:27 GMT -5
Yes Charlie you assumed right. Just because I'm pro oil and a conservative. Does not mean I am for destroying the environment. I have the attitude that you leave it better than it was. Like what the oilsand company's do. The breach in BC was at an active mine. The costs are being covered by the mining company and the insurance they carry. Plus the press made it sound worse than it was. My understanding that it was one of the last settling ponds. So the tailing were in the last phase before being cleared for release and for recycle. I could be wrong on this, but that is my understanding from talking with the some of the locals in Likely BC. As for the nasty messes left by past mines. Trumps words the other night were spot on about political donations. Maybe its time for you folks to reform your election laws. People should maybe be more concerned on why one would spend a billion to get a $400,000 job. Time to limit corporate donations and end PAC's. Yes...very hard to understand Trump's appeal to "CON"servatives or maybe that explains it (he's is CONning people). Trump make no bones about CONning the system for all it is worth. He left Atlantic City in shambles and does so with pride. He cares not for the peoples whose lives are ruined and only for the next million. He steps all over people and gets away with it because of his money. Would be interesting to see how he would talk about minorities if he were on the streets where I grew up. Just like you don't see with many on the Internet there would be a little more civility person mano-o-mano. Trumps appeal is that he is saying what elected officials won't or are to afraid to say on both sides of the isle. Do you think Obama would say this if he was standing on main street of any town Texas? Obama Compares GOP to “Death-to-America” Iranians… dailycaller.com/2015/08/05/obama-compares-gop-to-iranians-chanting-death-to-america-video/
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Post by bushmanbilly on Aug 9, 2015 10:58:37 GMT -5
Why Was The Environmental Protection Agency Messing With A Mine Above Silverton? Enter The Environmental Protection Agency For years, the EPA has wanted to name areas around Silverton as a Superfund site. This brings funding for cleanups. The town, in turn, has resisted, fearing the label would be toxic to tourism. (pun intended.) Recently, the town and the agency came to a sort of detente. The EPA wouldn’t list the site as Superfund, also called the National Priority List, as long as efforts were made to improve water quality near the mines. The EPA agreed to pay for those efforts, which recently got underway. Somewhat ironically, the Gold King mine was not the object of the cleanup. The agency had planned to plug a mine [.pdf] just below it, the Red and Bonita Mine, with the goal of reducing acid runoff from that mine. Best and most accurate story I have seen on this subject. www.kunc.org/post/why-was-environmental-protection-agency-messing-mine-above-silverton#stream/0
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Post by bushmanbilly on Aug 12, 2015 15:47:29 GMT -5
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Post by bushmanbilly on Aug 12, 2015 15:47:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 23:44:26 GMT -5
Hahaha. I am dumbfounded. Is there anything bad happening in this country that Obama is not directly responsible for? Did anyone read the comments below the article? Was there no corruption in the EPA before Obama became president? Jeezus folks, get a grip here. The EPA has been doing good and bad for a long time and I will admit that this was probably a shady deal and somebody should be held accountable but all the way up to the presidency? Jim
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Post by parfive on Aug 13, 2015 1:29:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 6:00:32 GMT -5
Thanks for those Rich parfive. They shed a much better light on what the state and the EPA are having to deal with which is a monster of a problem that will probably never be completely repaired. Jim
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Post by jamesp on Aug 13, 2015 8:21:23 GMT -5
Collateral damage from extracting resources every man in this country has used at one time or another. Progress comes at a cost. No getting around it.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Aug 13, 2015 13:00:10 GMT -5
Hahaha. I am dumbfounded. Is there anything bad happening in this country that Obama is not directly responsible for? Did anyone read the comments below the article? Was there no corruption in the EPA before Obama became president? Jeezus folks, get a grip here. The EPA has been doing good and bad for a long time and I will admit that this was probably a shady deal and somebody should be held accountable but all the way up to the presidency? Jim Make sure you save some for Rich. Hay Rich, your pretty quiet about this. Unlike your ranting about the the tarballs in Kalamazoo. Wtf.... cat got your tongue.
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