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Post by jamesp on Oct 28, 2015 15:23:28 GMT -5
It cost $260 shipped. Need the rings for fire pit bases. Maybe optional cooking grills. Paid for itself in 4 hours. However, the rolls were crooked and I had to do some old school blacksmithing on them(made spirals), no big deal. Equivalent US machine about $1200, but would make much better rings. 2 " X 1/4" and 1.5" X 1/4" rings 8" to 15" in diameter. Nothing most folks would want to tackle by hand. Cost per ring finished was only $2-$3 each. To replace a stamping that was $15-$25 each. 20 rings X $20 in savings. Variability in diameter and width a big help. Never used one, found it easy. One hour learn curve. machine, hydrualic jack pushes two bottom rolls into top roller, crank away. fun to use  Rings  The little ones to collar wife. Also did a not OSHA approved Sulfuric and Muratic acid treatment on a 30 inch hemispherical bowl. Should last about 2 years before it reverts back to common rust color.  New steel treatment chemicals out that make all kinds of textures. A two step treatment that leave a copper plating. |
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Post by captbob on Oct 28, 2015 16:26:50 GMT -5
Thinking that's a pretty useful toy to have. James has all the cool toys!  Although, I was looking at sandblasting machines today. Always wanted one, just not sure where I could hide it. like so -  The acid washed bowl reminds me of Cousin It for some reason. Collar on wife... good luck with that one! |
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Post by orrum on Oct 28, 2015 17:38:43 GMT -5
That's a very cool little bender!
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Post by droseraguy on Oct 28, 2015 21:09:48 GMT -5
That is pretty neat. If you manage to get those small ones anywhere near the Mrs. I'd wager she would be a quick study and fashion you a few smaller ones ta boot. Don't worry you get used to them after a while.  |
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Post by jamesp on Oct 28, 2015 22:56:06 GMT -5
captbobSandblaster set up for pressure washer. You got sand. Never heard how well this rig works. LOL Cousin It, no telling what that boy will come up with next. Hit the funny bone on that one. Toys OK, but they got to pay for themselves... 
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Post by jamesp on Oct 28, 2015 23:05:50 GMT -5
That is pretty neat. If you manage to get those small ones anywhere near the Mrs. I'd wager she would be a quick study and fashion you a few smaller ones ta boot. Don't worry you get used to them after a while. All talk and no bark here droser LOL |
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Post by jamesp on Oct 28, 2015 23:06:18 GMT -5
That's a very cool little bender! that one is handy Bill. |
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Post by Rockoonz on Oct 28, 2015 23:18:04 GMT -5
jamesp there was a tool and equipment auction last Saturday, had some pretty amazing old fabrication stuff, made me wish I has a bit more cash and a place to keep it all.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 29, 2015 7:06:21 GMT -5
jamesp there was a tool and equipment auction last Saturday, had some pretty amazing old fabrication stuff, made me wish I has a bit more cash and a place to keep it all. A friend has two 'old' flange benders. Those two 'old' machines fill a 10,000 sq ft building with inventory. He has to do scheduled bearing changes every year. The parts casing the bearings must weigh a ton each. His father had them for 30 years and he has run them for 30 years. Salute to old machinery. I shopped 'old' ring benders. No chance, those that own them have no interest in selling them. Salute to old machinery... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 10:53:38 GMT -5
Thinking that's a pretty useful toy to have. James has all the cool toys! Although, I was looking at sandblasting machines today. Always wanted one, just not sure where I could hide it. like so - The acid washed bowl reminds me of Cousin It for some reason. Collar on wife... good luck with that one! Check into compressor requirements before buying blast cabinet. 15cu ft per minute is a common minimum. Few homes have anywhere near that ability. Even the largest compressor at Home Depot or harbor freight is marginal for sand blasting. |
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Post by jamesp on Oct 29, 2015 11:08:46 GMT -5
Yep. The bigger the compressor the better. I rented a sand blaster and it had a compressor with a 4 cylinder diesel.
Curious about the pressure washer sand blaster attachment.
I welded up two specialty trailers for the ATV to pull, say 4' X 8'. A galvanizing company near by coats cell towers and tractor trailers-big stuff.
I think min is 800 pounds for $300 to galvanize, a minimum. But had to sandblast before dipping.
Anyway, I rented a sand blaster and as Scott mentioned the compressor was intimidating.
Planning on dipping some fire pits, they come in pickled and ready for galvanization.
Never seen a galvanized fire pit. They triple dip, so coating is real thick.
Dipped those trailers 20 years ago, coating still in tact after much abrasion on the edges.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 11:16:10 GMT -5
Galvanized fire pit equals sick marshmallow roasters. The zinc will boil off and the fumes are mildly toxic causing headaches and such until the body clears the zinc out.
Same as if you welded galvanized steel parts. Google it.
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Post by jakesrocks on Oct 29, 2015 11:57:16 GMT -5
Quote James. "Curious about the pressure washer sand blaster attachment."
James, those would be marginal at best with a household pressure washer. The Navy routinely hydroblasts submarine hulls down to bare metal. They use Black Diamond blasting grit, and the hydroblaster is powered by a 6 cylinder diesel. The pressure put out by those beasts is unbelievable. I don't remember the exact pressure, but I've seen a gun man picked right up & tossed off of a 3 high staging by the pressure coming out of the gun. Needless to say, You have to be a really big guy to handle the gun, and you don't want people or pets around while using it. Those things will peel the meat right off of your bones from several yards away. The gun man has to wear a heavy canvas full body suit, and a hood with oxygen hose that looks more like a divers helmet than a blasting hood.
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Post by captbob on Oct 29, 2015 12:42:05 GMT -5
Moving sandblaster further down the list...
Even if I could get away with it, that sized air compressor would have me in the dog house for months.
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Post by jakesrocks on Oct 29, 2015 12:47:46 GMT -5
Moving sandblaster further down the list... Even if I could get away with it, that sized air compressor would have me in the dog house for months. LOL. I'm afraid me & my toys would be looking for a new place to live.  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Oct 29, 2015 13:07:39 GMT -5
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Post by nowyo on Oct 29, 2015 15:12:24 GMT -5
Galvanized fire pit equals sick marshmallow roasters. The zinc will boil off and the fumes are mildly toxic causing headaches and such until the body clears the zinc out. Same as if you welded galvanized steel parts. Google it. This. Zinc poisoning is nothing fun. A zinc fire pit would be some bad juju. Russ Neat bender though, always wanted one. |
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Post by jakesrocks on Oct 29, 2015 15:26:13 GMT -5
Yup, they're both right. I've done my fair share of welding on galvanised metal. First comes a sweet taste in your mouth, followed by headache, stomach ache, and if you get it bad enough, puking & the runs. About the only antidote I know of is drinking bunches of milk to neutralize the zinc & flush it out. No fun at all.
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Post by quartz on Oct 29, 2015 23:23:19 GMT -5
I've sandblasted things up to car wheel size for 35 years with a 7.5 cfm compressor, in a cabinet I repurposed from a great big oil furnace shell. It has a 2x3 foot work surface, 2 feet high. At times I do have to let the air catch up, but plenty happy with it.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 30, 2015 7:28:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the advise folks.
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