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Post by captbob on Feb 18, 2016 16:14:24 GMT -5
Alrighty, testing out a new camera on a few rocks I picked up recently without having a clue what they are. Possible ID suggestions appreciated. I have NO location information on any of these. Also testing out a new photobucket account. Please bear with me if I mess up on pictures! onward... First piece has lots of copper looking filaments (shards?) in it. They are very shiny, more so than photos. 1 Light green pictured dry then wet 2 Amazonite - I think 3 NO clue, purple with some green 4 Large rough. Interior seems to be yellow with dendrites 5 No clue. Pink really sparkles in sunlight. dry & wet 6 Interesting end cut. The maroon looks like dried blood. dry & wet 7 No clue. The gold pieces really pop in person. Still learning camera 8 meh, but kinda cool conglomerate 9 Big chunk with lots of purple. Again, no idea what this is. dry & wet 10 Something else with purple in it. dry & then two wet pictures 11 Indonesian coral? Face has bad saw marks 12 Gemmy green stuff Chyro.... something? dry & wet 13 No clue - dry & wet 14 Also picked up a bunch of what I reckon is petrified palm. Don't know if it's any good or not. Several pictures of the palm wood. That's it for now. Thanks for any ID suggestions. Still learning the camera and hopefully the pictures are the right size for the page. Got a bunch of other stuff at the same time, but I didn't want to make this post crazy long. May post more later, probably tomorrow when it's warmer. ETA: well the pictures seemed to work okay! whooo hooo
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 16:29:01 GMT -5
#13 is mtorolite or chrysoprase, I don't know how to know the difference I'm certain you nailed the amazonite. Purple stuff might be that Indian material purple filament? Sabre52
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Post by Shannon on Feb 18, 2016 16:59:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 17:13:43 GMT -5
Mtorolite
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Post by mohs on Feb 18, 2016 18:56:14 GMT -5
its possible that is fluororiting... just needs to bake for another million years
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Post by radio on Feb 18, 2016 19:38:12 GMT -5
#2 resembles some type of Turquoise, likely Mexican in origin.
#6 I have seen identified as Sunstone, but not the Plush Oregon variety. Most likely from India
That's all I got that hasn't been identified already. others are a mystery
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Post by RocknCritter on Feb 18, 2016 20:04:26 GMT -5
#1 Might be astropyllite.
#2 Probably turquoise.
#5 Yellow feather jasper from Utah?
#11 Sugilite (low grade)?
#12 Fossil coral.
FYI Mtorolite contains chromium. The chromophore for chrysoprase is nickel instead.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 20:42:16 GMT -5
#2 definitely NOT turquoise. Turquoise is a bluerock and yours are green. Still probably copper,just not phosphate. #5 I'm thinking dendritic opal we have been seeing cabs of recently. Never have I seen rough, so I cannot be certain. Eta found very similar rough pic.
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Post by radio on Feb 18, 2016 21:45:18 GMT -5
#2 definitely NOT turquoise. Turquoise is a bluerock and yours are green. Still probably copper,just not phosphate. #5 I'm thinking dendritic opal we have been seeing cabs of recently. Never have I seen rough, so I cannot be certain. Eta found very similar rough pic. I have several pieces of turquoise in a very similar color and even some of the old stock Kingman can be in various shades of Aqua. Turquoise from the #8 mine in Nevada is very close in color to the ones shown above, but #8 is well known for the honey colored matrix throughout which this lacks.
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Post by RocknCritter on Feb 18, 2016 21:46:12 GMT -5
#2 definitely NOT turquoise. Turquoise is a bluerock and yours are green. Still probably copper,just not phosphate. #5 I'm thinking dendritic opal we have been seeing cabs of recently. Never have I seen rough, so I cannot be certain. Well I have to disagree with you on #2 and agree with you on #5. There are several locations, primarily in Mexico, that produce green turquoise. Most notably Rattlesanake Ranch and the Alicia mine. Heck, even some of the natural turquoise from the Burtis Blue mine near Cripple Creek, CO is more green than blue. I sold a bucket of Campitos turquoise last week in Tucson that certainly wasn't blue. It's always very problematic to definitely provide a positive i.d. of any material based on pictures alone especially when all of our computer monitors aren't color matched/synchronized, etc. It's even more nebulous without knowing the exact location. No hardness test. No streak test. No XRD.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 21:59:06 GMT -5
If it's green it ain't copper phosphate.
It may be aluminum phosphate or a blend of the two.
But turquoise is copper phosphate and copper phosphate is blue.
ETA marketing names commonly are mistaken, it outright lies. IE white Buffalo turquoise marketed as albino turquoise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 22:13:05 GMT -5
I'm splitting this hair because we have a generic mineral. If you could say that is the turquoise marketed by the bigshit mine in elbonia. So be it.
Generic rocks get generic names. So to be turquoise in this context we need it to be blue.
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Post by radio on Feb 18, 2016 22:29:26 GMT -5
If it's green it ain't copper phosphate. It may be aluminum phosphate or a blend of the two. But turquoise is copper phosphate and copper phosphate is blue. ETA marketing names commonly are mistaken, it outright lies. IE white Buffalo turquoise marketed as albino turquoise. Now ya done went and did it! Ya gonna get me started on "White buffalo" and the ripoff of the American public! The material being sold as such these days, even by a couple very respected dealers is NOT Turquoise. The original White Buffalo mine was depleted back in the early 1900's by Native Americans long before Turquoise became popular. The original White Buffalo had flecks of Blue in it and jewelry with it became highly sought after and commanded very high prices. There will always be unscrupulous people claiming to have the real deal in order to part the unwary from the contents of their wallet. In my shop, I do not, and never will sell any "White Buffalo" even though I get requests for it on a regular basis. I do however, keep samples of what is being sold as such so I can educate folks on what they are being sold elsewhere. Kinda my one man crusade against injustice I suppose
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Post by victor1941 on Feb 18, 2016 22:39:33 GMT -5
I think #5 is dendritic opalite. This material should make some nice cabs. I personally like palm that has color and doesn't have open straws. Some of your material looks average with the black piece being my selection for the best piece.
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Post by RocknCritter on Feb 18, 2016 22:40:49 GMT -5
I'm splitting this hair because we have a generic mineral. If you could say that is the turquoise marketed by the bigshit mine in elbonia. So be it. Generic rocks get generic names. So to be turquoise in this context we need it to be blue. Without an XRD or XRF analysis it could be variquoise, variscite, chalcosiderite, etc. If you're ever in Albuquerque, you should go visit Joe Dan Lowry at the Turquoise Museum.
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Post by zarguy on Feb 18, 2016 22:41:49 GMT -5
#5 looks like Dendritic Opal from OZ. I saw lots of it at Quartzite this year. It's usually very opal like (light weight, shiny where broken), unlike the Yellow Feather jasper from Utah, which is more porcelain like. Lynn
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Post by captbob on Feb 18, 2016 23:23:48 GMT -5
Thank you all for your replies and best guesses so far. I know it's tough to ID a rock just by pictures, but it's kinda fun to try sometimes.
About this photobucket site... when I just logged back on here again, 15-20 minutes ago, several of the pictures were gone. Some cat pic there instead. I had to go to my album and redo (copy & paste) several of the IMG URL scripts to get the pictures back.
Any clue on why a few (six or seven?) pictures were gone but not others?
Also, before when I clicked on a picture it would open another page where the picture shows up and can be enlarged. And, you can scroll through the other pictures in the album. Now when I click on a picture another page opens (a photobucket error page) saying: Sorry, the requested page does not exist.
Ideas why?
Not only am I looking for a few IDs here, but I'm trying to figure out this new, to me, photobucket account.
Thanks!
ETA: 'nuther photobucket question. Does a photo need to be resized (reduced) on the computer before downloading it to photobucket? Meaning, will it be resized simply by moving it from my computer to photobucket? I resized/resampled all these photos as well as lowered the resolution (pixel count) before downloading them to photobucket.
That takes a LOT of time. Curious if I need to be doing that, and can't find anything about that in the instructions. Don't want to post any huge photos!
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Post by RocknCritter on Feb 18, 2016 23:49:23 GMT -5
Thank you all for your replies and best guesses so far. I know it's tough to ID a rock just by pictures, but it's kinda fun to try sometimes. Just remember: Without data, it's only an opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 0:01:47 GMT -5
Thank you all for your replies and best guesses so far. I know it's tough to ID a rock just by pictures, but it's kinda fun to try sometimes. Just remember: Without data, it's only an opinion. I have to agree on principle. But some things like the dendritic opalite are pretty diagnostic visually.
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Post by captbob on Feb 19, 2016 9:28:08 GMT -5
Well crap! Now all the photos that I didn't redo last night aren't showing up. This photobucket thing is gonna give me grey hair! will fix as time permits grrrrrr fixed - and entirely MY fault. I renamed the album and that changed the URL Just hit a speed bump on the learning curve. pressing on!
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