jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2016 6:46:19 GMT -5
That's about as much as I can tell you captbob. Always be cautious when sawing hollows. They can break due to vise pressure and bend your blade. Proper clamping is a bit of a science too. Cutting them in half weakens them as the blade is making it's cut. I have taken people coral hunting and they never found a hollow. kap and Mark have the best eye for hollow ones. Their secret, instinct, X-Ray, not sure... I have collected solids for years and ran up on veins of hollows by chance. Stop by and grab a few from each spot as making the boat run. 3 tupelos past the gum,12 feet out in the river, etc. Most spots under water and hard for others to find. Like finding a man made reef in the open sea without Furuno.
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Post by radio on Feb 24, 2016 7:21:16 GMT -5
Mighty cool corals there and quite an education to boot! The more I read your posts on these, the more fascinated I become!
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2016 8:13:33 GMT -5
Mighty cool corals there and quite an education to boot! The more I read your posts on these, the more fascinated I become! The coral is a trip Arlen. Many very interesting places to collect. Most any water way or excavation about 90 feet above sea level often has the goods.
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Intheswamp
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Post by Intheswamp on Feb 24, 2016 8:21:35 GMT -5
These corals are "Intheswamp Approved"...
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Post by radio on Feb 24, 2016 8:33:13 GMT -5
These corals are "Intheswamp Approved"... Every time I see one of those corals now, I immediately start looking for areas that would make a neat cab
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Post by captbob on Feb 24, 2016 9:24:27 GMT -5
THANK YOU James! This is exactly the information I was looking for from the coral master, but I was hesitant to ask because I figured it would take a lot of typing. I appreciate the time this took and the bonus pictures.
I figure this lady must have hundreds of the larger sized pieces, and I'm going to do my best to help her move them out over a couple few trips up to Jacksonville during the next few months. There are walls built with these chunks and piles just overgrown with plants. Doubt they would miss a couple hundred chunks - just not so sure how this will play on the home front when the wife unit sees a truck load pull in the driveway. Lady has keepers that she won't part with - YET (I didn't have enough cash on me this past trip to do any serious bribing), but these are good country folks that I'm pretty sure could use the money. So we'll see...
I'm kinda counting on her granddaddy knew what he was doing when collecting, from what I have seen so far. He was a Navy Seebee and diver. Did sponge diving in the gulf at some point after his time in the service. Moved (retired) to Lake George. She told me many stories as she followed me around this past trip, and her granddaddy sounds like a man I wish I had had the honor to meet.
Guess the hollows won't "ring" as hollow if packed with clay. *duh*
Hadn't thought of the holding under water / bubbles thing *face palm* Crazy how such logical solutions often evade.
Thanks again for the schoolin'
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Post by captbob on Feb 24, 2016 9:33:16 GMT -5
This is for jamesp for anytime I say this word the way I hear it here: Shoot Jimi, she was missing 4 syllables. bowa tria oial dal, pronounced minimally over a 10 second period Looking forward to hearing the proper Southern pronunciation someday! I figure hounding and finding your own specimens may be a good part of the fun, and finding pre-collected hoards like this is kinda cheating. But what respecting bear would pass up a honey pot to mess with the bees in the hive? This is rather like finding a rockhound's estate sale with added spiders, roaches and snakes tossed in. Oh, and you are certainly correct in that this stuff is tough on the hands! Mainly finger tips. As is the Tampa Bay coral.
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2016 9:47:12 GMT -5
Shoot Jimi, she was missing 4 syllables. bowa tria oial dal, pronounced minimally over a 10 second period Looking forward to hearing the proper Southern pronunciation someday! I figure hounding and finding your own specimens may be a good part of the fun, and finding pre-collected hoards like this is kinda cheating. But what respecting bear would pass up a honey pot to mess with the bees in the hive? This is rather like finding a rockhound's estate sale with added spiders, roaches and snakes tossed in. Oh, and you are certainly correct in that this stuff is tough on the hands! Mainly finger tips. As is the Tampa Bay coral. Great fodder for that Highland. Hope to see some face sawn. Hot summer days in that nice water is about as good as it gets for this Georgia boy. Lots of treasures and variations there. We must go sometime. I don't say much when collecting. Too busy looking for ~8 different forms at any time. Color-form-shape-texture-fossil quality-tumble grade-slab grade-hollows-bots-yard rocks-displayable halves-specimens-artifacts-tiny heads-large heads and more Is that 8 ?
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Post by NDK on Feb 24, 2016 11:29:48 GMT -5
This whole thread has been a fantastic read. Thank you Captbob for posting your amazing haul & also thanks James for the info! BTW, I don't think this is cheating, as folks like us in rockhound pergatory gotta take it wherever we can get it!
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rockymom
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Post by rockymom on Feb 24, 2016 11:46:14 GMT -5
Hi Captain,
I just moved to Jacksonville, FL from CT. Have been spending my time fossil hunting on the beach but would love to take my two boys to paw through a rockpile for sale. Is this a top secret location or advertised somewhere?
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Post by roy on Feb 24, 2016 11:51:09 GMT -5
cool stuff
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Post by captbob on Feb 24, 2016 15:43:57 GMT -5
Hey rockymom, this location is something that I will be keeping to myself for awhile, sorry. Not advertised anywhere, just a private home in the middle of the Ocala national forest. Not sure how old your boys are, but this isn't the kinda "rock pile" anyone younger than mid teens should be messing around. All the rocks are sharp and the roaches, spiders and snakes are a bit of a put off. Welcome to Florida! You may want to start keeping an eye on your local Craigslist for lapidary items if you are not searching there frequently already. I also think Jacksonville has a pretty nice rock club; don't know their location, but probably easy enough to Google. Think their show is in the early Fall up there.
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Post by kap on Feb 24, 2016 22:02:04 GMT -5
Here are a few more pictures. James has REALLY got me hooked on the coral! Like he said it is hard to tell the hollows if nothing is showing. I am getting better at finding some.
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rockymom
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Post by rockymom on Feb 25, 2016 10:12:46 GMT -5
Thank you Captain,
Just looking for an adventure to go on with my 10 and 13 year old, learn about the area and local geology and keep them off of the electronics. We took the backroads to Gainsville and the interior of FL is so interesting and different than what we are used to in New England. I am more of a surface hunter, no interest in actually donning snorkeling gear to harvest my own (which would involve more that snakes and roaches). Don't want to bother folks that don't want to be bothered.
I visited the one person with a rock collection that advertises on Craigslist in this area. He was a lot of fun though my husband and boys spent way to much on his shark tooth collection. Visited the show in the fall and spoke with the rock club they are a nice group though do mostly jewelry and no collecting trips. Our club in CT was very kid friendly, we actually stopped going to the meetings regularly because we were coming home with to many rocks! Everyone was more than generous with the young ins.
Take care, Natalie
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Post by captbob on Feb 27, 2016 10:11:04 GMT -5
Hey jamesp - quick question. I've seen your photos of corals out in your yard, so you may know... Does being out in the sun effect the colors in/of the agatized portions of these corals? I know some types of rocks will fade in the sun while others won't. Just wondering if I need to be concerned about where some of my pieces end up being displayed stored. Thanks for any insight.
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Feb 27, 2016 10:44:07 GMT -5
Hey jamesp - quick question. I've seen your photos of corals out in your yard, so you may know... Does being out in the sun effect the colors in/of the agatized portions of these corals? I know some types of rocks will fade in the sun while others won't. Just wondering if I need to be concerned about where some of my pieces end up being displayed stored. Thanks for any insight. The sun won't do any damage in our lifetime. It is formed from dissolved silicas in water and dries out when the original patina is exposed making it look dull and ugly. Man does the water change it and make it look heavenly. Especially the bots. Tumbling is one way to solve the patina issue. Facing those hollows with a saw too. Some corals are dry all the way thru the head. Most not. Here is a process for the dry types. No oily film afterwards. Vacuum bag in oven at 200F for several hours.: www.flickr.com/photos/67205364@N06/sets/72157633370404128Tung oil idea is a good one to try for your inside specimens.
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Post by santabarbara on Jun 15, 2017 22:09:42 GMT -5
beauties - i have some I'm looking forward to cutting!
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Post by radio on Jun 16, 2017 8:23:47 GMT -5
captbob , jamesp , radio just had a brainstorm, or maybe it was a brain fart, but must perform experiment and report back on results. I saw I was tagged in this thread ans read again the discussion of oiling or waxing the goodies and the ensuing down side of treatments being dust collectors when a very dim light bulb went off in my even dimmer brain! It occurred to me that museums use a certain type of wax to preserve antiques and protect against fingerprints and such, but the the dust collecting discussion triggered my curiosity about if this special wax would collect dust which would be a big no no on historical items in a museum, so did a Google search for the stuff. www.thefurnitureconnoisseur.com/renaissance-wax-polish/ Sure enough, if applied in a thin coat and wiped off a bit, it seems to not collect dust! I have a can of this stuff in the shop I bought hoping a thin coat would help keep my jewelry from tarnishing in the display cases and reduce polishing chores, but I saw little benefit. I will rub a bit on some slabs and see if it makes them pop and report back
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 16, 2017 9:15:09 GMT -5
James,I cut one hollow piece of rough you sent me......I used pine board with the vise to soften the tightness of the coral...It really helped with the cut.... It gives it a cradle type pinch,into the wood,better gripping power...Also puts less pressure on the stone...
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Post by jamesp on Jun 16, 2017 9:45:33 GMT -5
James,I cut one hollow piece of rough you sent me......I used pine board with the vise to soften the tightness of the coral...It really helped with the cut.... It gives it a cradle type pinch,into the wood,better gripping power...Also puts less pressure on the stone... I have really mushy saw clamp faces. 3/4 inch plywood the looks awful but gives great padding. Hard vice faces would have caused problems, and sometimes add other soft stuff to spread the pinch force. Great tip Michael.
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