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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Mar 14, 2016 16:43:14 GMT -5
I have always stood up to cab and maybe that is just because I learned at a rock club with all counter height cabbing units. My feet do start to hurt after a long cabbing session and I have tried a stool but it felt awkward and I thought I had less mobility. Just curious what method my peers are using.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 14, 2016 17:02:03 GMT -5
I sit, but then, I am using a flat lap, not cabbing machine. With it (8" Ameritool) sitting on my patio table, the flat lap is at eye height when I am seated. Gives me a good view. I also take off my glasses, they suck for close up vision.
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Post by Pat on Mar 14, 2016 17:13:16 GMT -5
I stand, but wish I were sitting.
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Post by mohs on Mar 14, 2016 17:24:22 GMT -5
I do both
standing is imperative & affords the best visional angle to gauge the correct timing of the wheels periphery for grinding the downward slope of a rock heart and for blending in the wings edge plus its helps with the correct wrist axial motion and my fingers can feel the vibes through the stone as I'm not on a stick
and sometimes my back hurts if I sit to much
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Post by zarguy on Mar 14, 2016 17:33:13 GMT -5
I do both, but I stand more than I sit. I have a tall office chair, kind of like a draftsman's stool with padded back & foot rest ring. Sometimes my back asks me to sit.
Either way, I have a good view of where the stone contacts the wheel. I think that's necessary during the shaping stage. I don't know how people get good shapes on flat laps when they can't see the contact point (they probably don't). Lynn
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Mar 14, 2016 18:23:12 GMT -5
I think my other issue is that when I sit at a stool it requires more effort going back and forth between wheels. I use two cabbing machines with a total of 9 grits so being mobile is key. I keep thinking that I should just spend some money on an anti-fatigue mat to stand on for comfort.
Chuck
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Post by radio on Mar 14, 2016 19:47:39 GMT -5
I have done both, but prefer standing as I can move freely along the wheels and not twist or re position the chair. I'm very tall, so had to raise the unit higher. I built a set of drawers with a sturdy top to set the Cab King on and gain extra junk spac.........er, extra storage space under the unit :-)
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Post by Tommy on Mar 14, 2016 19:50:29 GMT -5
I think my other issue is that when I sit at a stool it requires more effort going back and forth between wheels. I use two cabbing machines with a total of 9 grits so being mobile is key. I keep thinking that I should just spend some money on an anti-fatigue mat to stand on for comfort. I agree with you here - I'm a stander because I'm constantly going back and forth between 10 grits on two wheeled machines and my inspection light on at the work bench and back to the flat polisher for finishing. Plus I've usually got water flying all over the place haha. I do have lightweight foam anti-fatique mats but I get so much freaking water all over the place that they start to slip and become downright dangerous so I have to put them up. The only time I occasionally sit down on a high barstool type chair is when I'm at the sintered 60-grit wheel grinding out preforms one after another.
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Post by micellular on Mar 14, 2016 20:05:29 GMT -5
I stand at the club, with counter-high wheels. (Sometimes I actually need to stand on a 2"x4" because I'm short, and it's a little to tall for me.
At work, I use a stainless steel lab bench and a rolling stool with adjustable height, but if I'm in a hurry I'll stand.
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Post by zarguy on Mar 14, 2016 20:31:55 GMT -5
My stool has wheels & is on those Harbor Freight shop mats. I also work on multiple cabs at the same wheel. Plus I have slaves move me around when they're not peeling grapes for me. Lynn
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Post by victor1941 on Mar 14, 2016 21:33:15 GMT -5
I use an Ameritool 8" flat lap that is placed on a 3 x 6 foot table. I have modified the heights of the table legs(metal) by cutting to a height that lets me have a comfortable arm/shoulder position about 10-12" above the lap. My light sources are two adjustable arm drafting lights placed on each side of the lap and an adjustable height bar chair with a back and plenty of seat padding placed on a soft floor covering. The shape of the cab is controlled by both feel during the grinding process and visual checks with no problem.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Mar 14, 2016 21:47:01 GMT -5
Seems like sitting is preferred for flat laps and that makes sense since there is no moving back and forth between wheels. My flat lap is set up for standing just because my other cab units are.
Chuck
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 14, 2016 21:55:47 GMT -5
Either way, I have a good view of where the stone contacts the wheel. I think that's necessary during the shaping stage. I don't know how people get good shapes on flat laps when they can't see the contact point (they probably don't).Lynn That is why my flat lap is on a table, I am seated, and the top of it is at eye level. I CAN see the contact point that way!
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Post by bobby1 on Mar 14, 2016 23:28:07 GMT -5
I sit in an adjustable height chair with roller wheels. I designed my machine so that I could sit to reduce back and leg stress. The machine has two diamond grinding wheels, one of which I use most of the time. I have one 8" sanding drum and I swap belts for the proper sanding grit. To add change in my posture I designed my polishing wheel to a standing height As you get older your posture and body positioning is very critical to reduce repetitive motion stress injury, carpal tunnel injury and tendonitis. Bob
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Post by nowyo on Mar 17, 2016 7:43:27 GMT -5
Myself, I do both. It depends on what task I'm working on. Mostly sitting on a stool I built with 4 caster wheels. The seat is the drivers bucket seat from a 1979 IH Scout. Comfy, and I can just roll myself around. Getting lazy in my old age, should probably motorize it.
Russ
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Post by Fossilman on Mar 17, 2016 9:38:24 GMT -5
I'm just starting out,so I stand......Tried siting but was awkward...
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Post by stardiamond on Mar 20, 2016 12:28:36 GMT -5
My machine can only be operated standing. My cabbing area is under an outdoor area covered by the roof of the house. I stand on dirt. This is easier on my feet and dropped cabs. I have a neurological problem with my feet and normally can't be on them for more than 20 minutes, except when I cab. Maybe it's the softer surface or shifting my weight as I work. I've created pot holes around my cabbing machine.
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 20, 2016 14:53:39 GMT -5
I have an adjustable height chair on wheels. I can get low enough to cab sitting at my table. Never have a problem seeing the cab. Speaking of seeing the cab- I use a light on my optivisors now. Works great!! I can't even imagine standing to do it. Of course, my son and I both stand while freeforming outside with the trim saw.
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 20, 2016 15:31:22 GMT -5
I sit while using my Genie. I took a hint from the well-known illustration of old-time German cutters in Idar-Oberstein, Germany who laid on their bellies and used rests for their forearms while grinding on the huge six-foot diameter water wheel-powered sandstone wheels. I use an office chair with wheels which can be easily adjusted for height. I built a rest for my forearms that extends the entire length of the machine. It gives me a tremendous amount of control in shaping cabs which I do free-hand, no dops.
Once cabs are shaped and free of scratches at 10X when dry, I dop and go to the finer wheels. I usually shape 15-20 cabs at a time of the same type of material. I usually cab in 2 stages: shaping, then sanding and polishing, which is seldom done at the same time. I often use a slant cabber for final sanding and polishing, depending on what I'm cutting. It's at a different place on my workbench and is the right height for sitting. I have back problems and this arrangement allows me to spend more pain-free time at the wheels than when standing.
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Post by metalsmith on Apr 1, 2016 10:50:04 GMT -5
I took a hint from the well-known illustration of old-time German cutters in Idar-Oberstein, Germany who laid on their bellies and used rests for their forearms while grinding on the huge six-foot diameter water wheel-powered sandstone wheels.
It gives me a tremendous amount of control in shaping cabs which I do free-hand, no dops. I have back problems and this arrangement allows me to spend more pain-free time at the wheels than when standing. Them Germans must have had wide elbows! Interesting you do free hand. Me too. I was wondering even before I got to your post about how another poll might be had for sitting / standing v back problems. I sit all day at work ('cept now I have a standing desk) so stand, but yes, control can be an issue, and it can be more than irritating watching a rock grind away as I scr*wed up a bevelled edge. I guess that now I know what I need to do ... arm rests.
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