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Post by jamesp on Apr 27, 2016 6:26:41 GMT -5
Those things are mean and nasty. I HATE fireants!!!!! But, my son hates them even more. When he was a young boy, he sat on a pile. We made a trip to the ER. I hate to say what happened, it would make the men here cringe, no doubt. A new meaning to 'ants in your pants'. Poor fellow.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 27, 2016 6:37:18 GMT -5
I have constructed wetlands that are filled after long periods of time. Fire ants well established. In most cases there is an 'oil slick' of angry ants floating on the surface. First thing they do is come out of the ground and head to the surface when flooded. Upon wading out in the water they are looking to climb something/someone in desperation.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 27, 2016 6:46:51 GMT -5
Those fire ants have been moving north into Maine and crossed over the border into southern New Brunswick. They are gardener's nightmare and drive green thumbs to rubber boots, long pants tucked into the boots and sealed with a band of duck tape. Brutal dress for the heat of summer. Darryl. Common insect attire in Florida. Thin white cotton long sleeved button neck shirts and long pants taped at sleeves and cuffs. Or a thin cotton jump suit taped similar. Common to see the old school guys dressed such. Uh, the smart ones.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 27, 2016 7:05:12 GMT -5
Yup, we have a ton of them here on the ranch and they are a whole lot of nasty all right. Four things you learn real quick 1. Don't park yore horse on a fire ant mound less yore fond of rodeo. 2. DEET, rather than repelling them, really pisses them off. 3. Don't pick up pop cans without looking real close cause fire ants love to fill them. And 4. The dang things like to climb yore leg a bit before they start to sting so be careful of yore nads, unless yore fond of dancing and yelling.....Mel The dogs know where those mounds are. Never thought about horses, and the ramifications of riding a horse attacked. Had a breeder's brood bitch get killed by them when nesting. These do not sting near as bad, but Allegheny Ants moved into the bamboo groves. They can fill an open bottom 50 gallon drum with organic fluff/light soil, and every other container laying around open end down. They use them for solar egg incubators. Metabolism similar to army ants, always at a sprint, carrying things bigger than their body X3 X4. They are excellent for some groves and ornamentals eliminating destructive insects. Excepting plants they decide to defoliate.(posses injectable herbicide) Making raceway grooves in the ground 100's of feet long between bamboo groves in a month or two. One single light dusting of Sevin dust in the floor of the grove and they leave over night. In two years time they infiltrated about 10 acres. And are not a problem except when moving close to the grove next to the house.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 27, 2016 7:19:09 GMT -5
James you should have broke out the propane torch...teach them little mother f-ers to stay off your stuff..I've been torn up a few times by them.. Heat is certainly effective. Another enemy is the cold. Liquid nitrogen jetted into the mound is a non-polluting millisecond kill. Acetone poured in the mound freezes them too, probably pollutive. Can be ignited shortly after cooling them for a double whammy.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 27, 2016 7:25:16 GMT -5
Well no fire ants in Ohio....yet Also, no thanks I want no ants. I'm on a diet. Your lucky spice. Georgia very strict about shipping potted nursery stock across our state line. Getting caught has strict consequences and rightfully so. Am astonished that you do not have fire ants in Ohio.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 8:51:17 GMT -5
Well no fire ants in Ohio....yet Also, no thanks I want no ants. I'm on a diet. Your lucky spice. Georgia very strict about shipping potted nursery stock across our state line. Getting caught has strict consequences and rightfully so. Am astonished that you do not have fire ants in Ohio. They are a Brazilian species. Ohio would freeze them out. They are here, but sporadic.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 27, 2016 9:19:51 GMT -5
Your lucky spice. Georgia very strict about shipping potted nursery stock across our state line. Getting caught has strict consequences and rightfully so. Am astonished that you do not have fire ants in Ohio. They are a Brazilian species. Ohio would freeze them out. They are here, but sporadic. Did you see the killer bee nests so common on the side of the trees in Costa Rica Scott ? At least that is what I was told they were by the locals. Thought about driving the rental car close to them and sticking a pole into the nest from a crack in the window. Same technique I use to knock a paper hornet nests down when over dry land. I fear paper hornets more than any critter in the south. They very commonly make nests in swamps in shrubs in inundated wetlands. Hard to see, easy to disturb and slow escape. Turn kayak upside down and hide under it as moving away.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 10:45:16 GMT -5
They are a Brazilian species. Ohio would freeze them out. They are here, but sporadic. Did you see the killer bee nests so common on the side of the trees in Costa Rica Scott ? At least that is what I was told they were by the locals. Thought about driving the rental car close to them and sticking a pole into the nest from a crack in the window. Same technique I use to knock a paper hornet nests down when over dry land. I fear paper hornets more than any critter in the south. They very commonly make nests in swamps in shrubs in inundated wetlands. Hard to see, easy to disturb and slow escape. Turn kayak upside down and hide under it as moving away. Not this trip. But before, yes. They seem to be a form of wasp, but one that doesn't sting so much as bite. A friend got nailed. Had scores of bad pinches on his neck and face. As though pinching in tiny pliers.
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Post by metalsmith on Apr 27, 2016 12:23:47 GMT -5
Digging out some barrels of potting soil. Looks like a colony of fire ants made a home in this one. Filled it with water hoping to run them off after a couple of days DO NOT put hand in this bucket. You would probably be 'done' for cruelty to animals in this country
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 12:30:02 GMT -5
Those fire ants have been moving north into Maine and crossed over the border into southern New Brunswick. They are gardener's nightmare and drive green thumbs to rubber boots, long pants tucked into the boots and sealed with a band of duck tape. Brutal dress for the heat of summer. Darryl. Wtf? phys.org/news/2015-06-ever-growing-invasive-ant-populations.htmlWow, that is a resilient species indeed. Wow
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Post by Intheswamp on Apr 27, 2016 15:00:01 GMT -5
I hope that fungi isn't the same stuff that was being "experimented" with down in Texas about 30 years ago. I and several other people ordered some of this to "inoculate" some colonies with. The fungi never arrived and the "researchers" disappeared...I wonder if they've resurfaced in Maine...may have even brought the fire ants up there. Anyhow, I hope there's something to the fire ant eating fungi...would be a good thing, but, I'm not holding my breath. But, again, it would be a very good thing if it works.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 27, 2016 19:25:01 GMT -5
Digging out some barrels of potting soil. Looks like a colony of fire ants made a home in this one. Filled it with water hoping to run them off after a couple of days DO NOT put hand in this bucket. You would probably be 'done' for cruelty to animals in this country Let them march. I will give them refreshments metalsmith.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 27, 2016 19:28:39 GMT -5
I hope that fungi isn't the same stuff that was being "experimented" with down in Texas about 30 years ago. I and several other people ordered some of this to "inoculate" some colonies with. The fungi never arrived and the "researchers" disappeared...I wonder if they've resurfaced in Maine...may have even brought the fire ants up there. Anyhow, I hope there's something to the fire ant eating fungi...would be a good thing, but, I'm not holding my breath. But, again, it would be a very good thing if it works. This stuff works by the workers feeding it to the queen. About got rid of them using this.
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Post by Sabre52 on Apr 27, 2016 19:29:03 GMT -5
The "head hunting" phorid flies are the coolest fire ant control. Phorid flies are really cool parasites. The flies sting the ants behind the head and the larvae feed and pupate in the ants' heads. Then the ants die and their heads drop off and the remaining ants carry the severed heads outside the colony where the flies hatch out on the surface and sting more ants. Fire ants fear the flies so much they stop foraging and the remainder of the colony starves out. Ain't nature cool!.....Mel
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Post by Intheswamp on Apr 27, 2016 19:30:07 GMT -5
Where'd you get it at James?
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Post by jamesp on Apr 27, 2016 19:37:48 GMT -5
The "head hunting" phorid flies are the coolest fire ant control. Phorid flies are really cool parasites. The flies sting the ants behind the head and the larvae feed and pupate in the ants' heads. Then the ants die and their heads drop off and the remaining ants carry the severed heads outside the colony where the flies hatch out on the surface and sting more ants. Fire ants fear the flies so much they stop foraging and the remainder of the colony starves out. Ain't nature cool!.....Mel Sci Fi at it's best, only it's for real. phorid flies, must research. Told wife process, she's excited lol. And yes.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 27, 2016 19:40:36 GMT -5
Where'd you get it at James? Very common. Depot/Ace/Lowes/garden center. Just a teaspoon, very little. Used to leave the water hose running on them overnight. Two days later another mound appears 10 feet away. "Hydramethylnon appears to be quite safe in mammals as the oral rat LD50 is 1100 to 1300 mg/kg. (Kidd, 1991) Dermal LD50s are greater than 5000 mg/kg in both the rat and rabbit. (Sine, 1987; Kidd, 1991) In a 26-week study in dogs, doses of up to 3.0 mg/kg/day resulted in increased liver weights and increased liver:body weight ratios. No other effects were observable in either the structure of tissues examined, the chemistry and consistency of the blood, or the chemistry of other bodily fluids. In dogs, 6 mg/kg/day caused decreased food consumption, decreased weight gain and caused testicular atrophy in a 90-day feeding study. (EPA, 1995) Chronic studies in several animals have shown the testis as a target organ. Hydramethylnon is highly toxic to fish and nontoxic to birds and honey bees. (NLM, 1995). Grazing animals fed 10x the recommended field application amount did not develop any problems. No residues were detectable in the milk or tissues of goats at a dietary dose of 0.2 ppm in the daily diet for 8 days. (NLM, 1995) No residues were found in the milk or tissues of cows at a dietary dose of 0.05 ppm for 21 consecutive days. (Kidd, 1991) Leukopenia and eosinopenia developed as early as 14 days after giving calves 1.3 to 1.5 g/kg/day of Amdro(R) and appeared to selectively affect production of immunocompetent T and B cells in a 50 day feeding trial. (Evans et al, 1984). A possible effect on the immune system of horses fed AMDRO has been suggested (Miller et al, 1984). Ponies fed AMDRO-treated grits (1/100th to 1/150th the calculated LD50) for 30 days (Miller et al, 1984) had leukopenia and eosinopenia and AMDRO-fed animals had increased severity of upper respiratory disease and an increased incidence of diarrhea as compared to controls."
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Post by Intheswamp on Apr 27, 2016 20:14:10 GMT -5
Oh crap, I missed the post above showing the Amdro bottle (I think for some reason the browser on the work computer wasn't showing the image). I'm kinda so-so on it...never really has done good for me, it'd slow'em down some but had to keep feeding them. I found about 20 bottles of it on sale at Lowes one day...something like a buck a bottle...labels were all falling off, etc., from being in the "garden" department. I figured what the hey...it helped, but still they marched on...maybe it had been through a heat or something...could've been too old but there again I've bought a few shiney labled boxes, too. The thing about it is that you've gotta do something or they'll take over the place.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Apr 28, 2016 2:17:43 GMT -5
I fear that's what the Coffeemate creamer is doing in my arteries, lol.
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