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Post by jamesp on Jun 8, 2016 13:19:58 GMT -5
Hope this had nothing to do with it  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 8, 2016 13:36:55 GMT -5
Nuclear meltdown? No, this (tuna crabs on beaches) has been happening long before the Japanese disaster. Warmer El Nino waters bring them up from Mexico. Otherwise, the water here is too cold for them.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 8, 2016 13:59:09 GMT -5
Is their an astronomy event like a full moon or planet alignment associated ?
The Atlantic has all kind of stuff float up after super high tide/close or full moon/alien intervention/visits from Uranus/planet alignment. And especially hurricanes.
One season in the gulf I had fortuhnicity of doing the deep sea fishing thing during an off season.
Ivan or Katrina brought in the deep blue water fish. We were catching giant grouper and sailfish 5 miles out, normally 40-50 miles out.
They were all pissed of for being in shallow water I guess, hook one and they fought as if they were supercharged.
I hooked a 5.5 foot king mackerel and had to chase it with the boat 1.5 miles to land it.
I was slow trolling and noticed the lure was going faster than the boat. They are like 70 MPH fish. Had them smoke the drag before. Sinister fish.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 8, 2016 14:29:02 GMT -5
The El Nino event warming the ocean water is the biggest reason for them even being here. High fluctuations in the tides caused by the full and new moons also an influence as far as pitching them onto the shore. Couple that with onshore winds, and the little critters are just not strong enough to be keep from being pushed onto the beaches.
Could also be alien intervention... 
High tides every two weeks also bring the grunion in to spawn. Not a myth. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 14:47:52 GMT -5
The El Nino event warming the ocean water is the biggest reason for them even being here. High fluctuations in the tides caused by the full and new moons also an influence as far as pitching them onto the shore. Couple that with onshore winds, and the little critters are just not strong enough to be keep from being pushed onto the beaches.
Could also be alien intervention...
High tides every two weeks also bring the grunion in to spawn. Not a myth. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Grunion Yum |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 8, 2016 16:10:32 GMT -5
grunion ?? Must look that one up. Does it eat goiters ?  Grunion Run-Frank Zappa. Love it |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 8, 2016 16:11:46 GMT -5
The El Nino event warming the ocean water is the biggest reason for them even being here. High fluctuations in the tides caused by the full and new moons also an influence as far as pitching them onto the shore. Couple that with onshore winds, and the little critters are just not strong enough to be keep from being pushed onto the beaches.
Could also be alien intervention...
High tides every two weeks also bring the grunion in to spawn. Not a myth. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Grunion Yum Serious ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 16:15:17 GMT -5
Yep, catch by hand at high tide, fill a bucket, clean, scale and sauté. Probably takes 20-30 for a meal. It's a thing. Yum. rockpickerforever didya eat urs? |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 8, 2016 16:15:25 GMT -5
Ha! I guess they are okay if you are into small fish with lots of bones. ( @shotgunner , I imagine you also dine on sardines and anchovies?)
Personally, the only thing I have found them useful for is fertilizer! And the cost of purchasing a fishing license to be able to legally take them just doesn't make sense.
ETA - Hell no! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 16:16:30 GMT -5
Ha! I guess they are okay if you are into small fish with lots of bones. ( @shotgunner , I imagine you also dine on sardines and anchovies?)
Personally, the only thing I have found them useful for is fertilizer! And the cost of purchasing a fishing license to be able to legally take them just doesn't make sense.
ETA - Hell no! Sardines!! Even better. They all make great bait too. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 8, 2016 16:17:25 GMT -5
Yeah, that's about all they're good for. And training seals...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 16:39:59 GMT -5
Yeah, that's about all they're good for. And training seals... When I was doing 3/4 day boats I would always bring home 40-50 big sardines. Clean scale and head on the boat, bagged and on ice. Steamed over onions being sauteed, eaten with said onions and a salad. Delish. Even you would like them Jean. Nothing foreign or wierd about the flavors. Just nice soft fish meat. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 8, 2016 16:50:28 GMT -5
For whatever reason, I am not a huge fish fan, Scott. I have always enjoyed catching them much more then eating them. Catch and release is perfect for me, lol.
The best fish I ever ate was a large, red-fleshed trout caught up in the Sierras. While on a vacation, we kept seeing signs in people's yards offering worms for fishing bait. So, we pulled off the highway at one place, only to find out that it wasn't even fishing season. DOH! The man asked us if we liked fish, we said Yes! So he pulled this two foot long (dressed) fish out of his freezer, and said we could have it, but he had to sell it to us. He said his wife would get pissed if he just gave it away. So he asked us for a dollar...
We cooked that fish over a wood-fueled barbecue in foil with butter in the deserted (some snow on the ground) campground in Yosemite. OMG, it was the BEST!!! after dinner, we got to watch a show put on by a half-dozen raccoons, fighting over the skin. What a great memory!
So why do I hate fish? Lol.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 8, 2016 17:41:55 GMT -5
I read about them catching them. Only by hand. Figured they were cooking them up.
Love fish bones when cooked/treated to soft. Like sardines
Menhaden was netted on large scale and processed into fertilizer till about the 1960's.(my family fished them)
But even Scott would not eat a Menhaden. Oily super high protein. Also called poggy's. Fine bait, but delicate and short lived.
Poggy oil one of most intense smelling agents on earth. Oil sold as chum for deep sea fishing.
No Scott, I will not let you eat poggy's. You WILL gurgatate.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 14:39:16 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Jun 9, 2016 17:51:12 GMT -5
Forgot about Louisiana. Is that a state ? In addition to Cajuns: "Fishmeal(menhaden #2 popular source) is an excellent source of protein for poultry. It contains a good balance of amino acids, including methionine and lysine. In addition to high levels of essential amino acids, fishmeal has a good balance of unsaturated fatty acids, certain minerals (available phosphorus), and vitamins (A, D, and B-complex)." That is what my family caught them for. Had a processing plant. Grandaddy died at 41 of asthma from the dust of the process. As a teen I gaffed sharks out of the nets. Back then the sharks were killed. Mostly hammerheads and tigers. Method was to stomp the end of the hammers and cut the tip 1" of the beak off the tigers. Prior blinded them, latter prevented them smelling. No mercy. Tarpon launching from the bottom of the net and hitting those tugging the net caused the most injuries. Those bony suckers can fly. |
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