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Post by orrum on Aug 10, 2016 13:30:53 GMT -5
That's very good!
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Post by tbvet3 on Aug 10, 2016 19:33:44 GMT -5
Is the grit really gone? Or is it just rounded off and buried in the mud?
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Post by tbvet3 on Aug 14, 2016 15:21:44 GMT -5
2 week update. Still runnin' fine. Pulled the tape and lid to check and there was a nice slurry foam. Course it got all over everything (I swear that stuff goes uphill!). Lot of grit left so I pulled about a handful of rough/media out freshened things up and sealed 'er up and back on the machine for another 2 weeks. Here's the spill over which shows the grit still hanging in there. ![](http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a438/tbvet3/IMG_0105_zpsgjhg2tdu.jpg)
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Post by orrum on Aug 15, 2016 7:28:29 GMT -5
Hey if you take rocks out u gotta put new rocks back in!
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Post by tbvet3 on Aug 15, 2016 19:32:14 GMT -5
Nah, I have a bad habit of overloading. Wasn't getting all the fall it could.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 19:48:06 GMT -5
Is the grit really gone? Or is it just rounded off and buried in the mud? Silicon Carbide is the grit I use. When it it tumbles, it does not "round off". It cleaves into smaller, yet very sharp particles. This continues until it is microfine. So, no, it isn't buried in the mud.
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Post by stonedape on Aug 18, 2016 11:11:37 GMT -5
Interesting thread
I started storing my used slurry in those containers
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 12:10:08 GMT -5
Interesting thread
I started storing my used slurry in those containers Why?
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Post by orrum on Aug 18, 2016 12:30:42 GMT -5
I reuse my slurry in the rotary tumblers. I put it in a plastic container with no lid and in a little while it settles. I pour off the water and soon it dries and cakes up. I add it to make a thick slurry faster and also to get the benefit of unused grit.
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Post by stonedape on Aug 19, 2016 10:40:06 GMT -5
Interesting thread
I started storing my used slurry in those containers Why? To reuse it. I just reload the grit into the used slurry. I picked that up on this forum to do that. Seems like a great idea!
Saved me from having to make a whole new batch for stage one a few days ago when I decided to put some stones back into coarse stage again.
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Post by tbvet3 on Aug 19, 2016 19:23:19 GMT -5
OK coming up on the 3 week point and today the barrel went quiet. This morning when I left out it was easy to hear the rocks falling from across the garage as the barrel turned. Now I have to put my (good) ear right up to the barrel to hear the rocks falling.
What gives?
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Post by Mark K on Aug 19, 2016 20:26:06 GMT -5
Gummed up?
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Post by tbvet3 on Aug 20, 2016 7:14:44 GMT -5
That thought crossed my mind. I took the barrel and shook it up and also turned it around. No change. This morning it's back to sounding better.
Going to check but I think the line voltage drops in the afternoons up here. It's been a subconscious observation that things turn slower in the afternoons. Guess I'll take to the conscious level. But then it broke cool yesterday so he folks down on the prairie won't likely be using their AC as much. May have to wait a few days to find out for sure.
'Preciate the thought though.
EDIT: 3 hours later.
Checked the RPMs when noisy and when quiet. No difference. Guess it must be the packing and unpacking as it rotates.
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Post by orrum on Aug 20, 2016 19:14:37 GMT -5
I have had it turn to pudding b4, no idea why.
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Post by orrum on Aug 20, 2016 19:15:52 GMT -5
I have had it turn to pudding b4, no idea why.
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Post by tbvet3 on Aug 21, 2016 8:04:02 GMT -5
Yeah, probably what's happening. Runs good for a while then goes quiet, then back to normal sound, rinse and repeat.
Guess I'll open it up and see what I got. 3 weeks is a pretty good ring out so I'll let ya'll know what I find.
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Post by tbvet3 on Aug 24, 2016 19:43:33 GMT -5
OK shotgunner, here's your report. 3 1/2 weeks rolling time with 60/90 grit. I have to say it works. The wear on the inside of the barrel is about equal to lightly frosted glass. Nothing to give me any indication that it will wear through any time soon. Of course the weak spot is the lid, leaking and CATASTROPHIC failure. For leaking I used several strips of the earlier mentioned TheraBand. Put a thin film of rubber cement on the rim to hold the band and snapped the lid on. Then trim close to the lid, ~ 1/4", with SHARP scissors. Put about 5-6 wraps with black electrical tape to aid in sealing. This worked well for me as there were no leaks for the first 2+ weeks. I did have some seepage after opening and resealing at the 2+ week mark to check on the contents. But I didn't do a great clean up job. Just a quick wipe off and reseal with black tape. The seepage never made it out to the machine. I only noticed the dampness, a few drops of water, and some leaked slurry as I unwrapped the tape after an additional week of run time. * So if opening one of these to check progress take care, clean things up and reseal properly!Keeping the lid on is easy. I used 3 strips of duct tape applied over the lid in an asterisk pattern and about half way down he side of the barrel. Only issue here is there is a rib in the barrel about 1/4" down from the lid. The duct tape wore off this rib so there really wasn't much holding the lid on. This may have contributed to the seepage. * So I'd suggest a couple wraps with black tape on this rib before putting it on the rollers.Bottom line is I'll use one again if the opportunity/need arises. * Don't fill it more than 2/3 full. I tried 3/4 and you've seen the results. Not good Indy!One problem I encountered in this test and now in a second barrel (3#er) is the slurry is going to the consistency of a malted. Pretty dog gone thick. And it seems like things aren't falling well as the barrel rotates. Ideas why anyone? Overall this is a viable alternative for 6-8# loads. Not as convenient as a commercially available barrel but if someone has only an occasional need for a run this size, is willing to put a bit of special care into preparation, and they have a machine to handle it's size they might want to consider using one of these coffee "cans."
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Post by huskeric on Sept 5, 2016 11:19:35 GMT -5
OK shotgunner, here's your report. 3 1/2 weeks rolling time with 60/90 grit. I have to say it works. The wear on the inside of the barrel is about equal to lightly frosted glass. Nothing to give me any indication that it will wear through any time soon. Of course the weak spot is the lid, leaking and CATASTROPHIC failure. For leaking I used several strips of the earlier mentioned TheraBand. Put a thin film of rubber cement on the rim to hold the band and snapped the lid on. Then trim close to the lid, ~ 1/4", with SHARP scissors. Put about 5-6 wraps with black electrical tape to aid in sealing. This worked well for me as there were no leaks for the first 2+ weeks. I did have some seepage after opening and resealing at the 2+ week mark to check on the contents. But I didn't do a great clean up job. Just a quick wipe off and reseal with black tape. The seepage never made it out to the machine. I only noticed the dampness, a few drops of water, and some leaked slurry as I unwrapped the tape after an additional week of run time. * So if opening one of these to check progress take care, clean things up and reseal properly!Keeping the lid on is easy. I used 3 strips of duct tape applied over the lid in an asterisk pattern and about half way down he side of the barrel. Only issue here is there is a rib in the barrel about 1/4" down from the lid. The duct tape wore off this rib so there really wasn't much holding the lid on. This may have contributed to the seepage. * So I'd suggest a couple wraps with black tape on this rib before putting it on the rollers.Bottom line is I'll use one again if the opportunity/need arises. * Don't fill it more than 2/3 full. I tried 3/4 and you've seen the results. Not good Indy!One problem I encountered in this test and now in a second barrel (3#er) is the slurry is going to the consistency of a malted. Pretty dog gone thick. And it seems like things aren't falling well as the barrel rotates. Ideas why anyone? Overall this is a viable alternative for 6-8# loads. Not as convenient as a commercially available barrel but if someone has only an occasional need for a run this size, is willing to put a bit of special care into preparation, and they have a machine to handle it's size they might want to consider using one of these coffee "cans." I thought about this, and another Red Green fix for the lid, what about that shrinkwrap that you can buy for moving. If you did a few wraps of that around it , it would probably seal it up nicely. I would worry about a piece of it coming loose and catching in the roller though. THEN you'd have a mess. Not only would you have the failure of the barrel, but you'd also have your entire pulley system nicely encased in a web of plastic that has had JUST enough heat/friction to make it a permanent part of the roller.
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Post by tbvet3 on Sept 6, 2016 9:18:05 GMT -5
You know that might just do the trick. One would have to pay attention to the direction of the wrap and the direction of the barrel roll to avoid it unwrapping though. But you have to do that with the tape too. I'll probably stay with the black electrical tape. A 10 pack of 60' rolls is only 5 bucks at Harbor Freight.
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Post by salpal48 on Sept 18, 2016 8:15:14 GMT -5
I have used many types of makeshift Barrels. most disposable and appox 2 Gal size. sometime they leak. some not. But the magic work is DUCK TAPE
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