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Post by jamesp on Dec 31, 2016 7:00:21 GMT -5
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Post by richardh on Dec 31, 2016 7:48:43 GMT -5
Looks pretty interesting. Wish it wasn't slotted, I haven't had the greatest luck with slotted blades for grinding with my tile saw. Still should work though.
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Post by captbob on Dec 31, 2016 8:43:34 GMT -5
Did you buy this and are currently evaluating? Seeing this and your other thread on the 5" blade I guess what really matters is how well the blade works and how long it lasts. If it wears as quickly as your wheel did  no thanks. If they can hold up to jamesp grinding abuse = more interesting. Future super grinder builders worldwide await your testing results and a thumbs up or down. |
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Post by jamesp on Dec 31, 2016 9:04:08 GMT -5
I have a $99 Home Depot tile saw. Ordered above blade this morning to mount on this cheapo tile saw.
I should think that a drip feed from a 5 gallon bucket for example may be needed to feed the water trough for replenishing rapid water use due to wider width of this wheel.
And a high rate of rock mud build up due to rapid material removal of coarser 30 grit diamonds.
Checking tile saws, motor runs ~5000 RPM. Blade designed for that speed and a whole lot more abuse for angle grinder work.
Now with two super grinders, one for each hand ambidextrously.
What do you expect from "The Most Interesting Man".
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Post by captbob on Dec 31, 2016 9:24:18 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Dec 31, 2016 9:37:25 GMT -5
"Estate find, out of jewelers estate, very early, 7" tall, seems tight, needs clean up from long storage" hmmmm |
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Post by wigglinrocks on Dec 31, 2016 21:59:25 GMT -5
I have a $99 Home Depot tile saw. Ordered above blade this morning to mount on this cheapo tile saw. I should think that a drip feed from a 5 gallon bucket for example may be needed to feed the water trough for replenishing rapid water use due to wider width of this wheel. And a high rate of rock mud build up due to rapid material removal of coarser 30 grit diamonds. Checking tile saws, motor runs ~5000 RPM. Blade designed for that speed and a whole lot more abuse for angle grinder work. Now with two super grinders, one for each hand ambidextrously. What do you expect from "The Most Interesting Man". Do you think the motor can handle the extra mass ? Just wondering . I think drip water feed would almost be necessary and maybe a drain in the tub . That wheel is designed for grout and mortar removal , which would be far less grind than hard rock , so will it hold up ? Being for wet or dry would probably help . Be interesting to see how it stands up . I'm not at all trying to argue or disagree , just over thinking as usual . |
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Post by jamesp on Jan 1, 2017 2:00:34 GMT -5
I have a $99 Home Depot tile saw. Ordered above blade this morning to mount on this cheapo tile saw. I should think that a drip feed from a 5 gallon bucket for example may be needed to feed the water trough for replenishing rapid water use due to wider width of this wheel. And a high rate of rock mud build up due to rapid material removal of coarser 30 grit diamonds. Checking tile saws, motor runs ~5000 RPM. Blade designed for that speed and a whole lot more abuse for angle grinder work. Now with two super grinders, one for each hand ambidextrously. What do you expect from "The Most Interesting Man". Do you think the motor can handle the extra mass ? Just wondering . I think drip water feed would almost be necessary and maybe a drain in the tub . That wheel is designed for grout and mortar removal , which would be far less grind than hard rock , so will it hold up ? Being for wet or dry would probably help . Be interesting to see how it stands up . I'm not at all trying to argue or disagree , just over thinking as usual . Time will tell. I run an isolated dry duty 1/4HP on the other grinder. Indirect drive using pulleys. Was surprised that the tile saws mostly use 1/3 to 1/2 HP motors. Direct drive. Most direct drive motors are built stout with big bearings. Wet use motor on a tile saw, good thing. The premise the wheel is designed for dry use is a good thing. Should have a hard matrix to do dry. Diamonds are coarser than a saw blade. Expect a lot of mud. That goes with the territory with high grind rates. Same thoughts, over thinking such is good thinking. If the tile saw has problems the blade will work fine on the home built with 5/8" arbor. |
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Post by tims on Jan 1, 2017 2:28:00 GMT -5
Was thinking the same thing about motor handling the extra weight / mass. Also if it does spin up i'd think it would create a geiser ... will the original splash guard work with it or you rigging up something custom? It should definitely be interesting. Best of luck and if it's really messy get video.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 1, 2017 3:28:31 GMT -5
Was thinking the same thing about motor handling the extra weight / mass. Also if it does spin up i'd think it would create a geiser ... will the original splash guard work with it or you rigging up something custom? It should definitely be interesting. Best of luck and if it's really messy get video. I have always run my grinder fairly dry. Dipping the rock in a small bucket of water between grinds and using serious ventilation for the dust. Not sure how the water is going to behave. It will be a blade stuck thru a slot which is a start to managing water. To remove a lot of rock is going to take a lot of water. One way or the other. Probably will require a clear guard, apron, diver's mask  Table top tile saw at Lowes for $104. 3/4 HP/3600 RPM, that is a powerful motor. My home made grinder uses a 1/4 HP/1725 RPM M-D Building Products 7-in 0.75-HP Wet Tile Saw - I could see cutting an opening in the green guard just enough for rock access.  |
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Post by captbob on Jan 1, 2017 11:15:15 GMT -5
Convert a tile saw into a beast tumble grinder ?You may have to modify the opening in the table to make room for the wider 1/4" diamond width. M-D Building Products 7-in 0.75-HP Wet Tile Saw - I could see cutting an opening in the green guard just enough for rock access. uh... no. Thinking on this and recalling your videos of your King Kong Grinder removing chunks of rock, I'm thinking this rates heading to your bad idea column. If that aggressive blade can remove anywhere near the rock that your KK grinder does, the operator is going to be in for a hail of rock shards flying at them at a high rate of speed. Rock chips will be hitting the saw table and ricocheting all over the place - probably mostly at the saw operator. Best be using a face shield! Hands may even be at risk. Then there is the high chance of rock pieces becoming lodged in the saw blade gap in the table top - may even jam the saw blade. Sorry, I enjoy most of your creative ideas, especially the goofy ones. But the need to be calling 911 is just too high on this one to give it a thumbs up. |
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Post by jamesp on Jan 1, 2017 16:22:04 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Jan 1, 2017 17:04:41 GMT -5
Initial start up. Background noise is rain hitting tin roof. Wide blade bolted straight in, no modifications. Other machines may vary.
5 inch blade sits lower and safer than 7 inch blade.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 1, 2017 17:11:43 GMT -5
Side view. again, background noise is rain on metal roof. Will have to shim water reservoir 1 inch.
Runs smooth as silk.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 1, 2017 17:14:57 GMT -5
Grinds like a charm. Motor way more powerful than my 1/4 HP/2200 RPM homemade grinder at 1/2 HP. 3600 RPM speeds cutting.
Motor well balanced.
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Post by captbob on Jan 1, 2017 17:35:20 GMT -5
Nice groove  Like to see it do some "super grinder" rock removal. That blade running the normal direction? Hard to tell which end of the saw is the front. You really trust __(insert name here)__ to use such a machine? |
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Post by jamesp on Jan 1, 2017 17:43:18 GMT -5
"You really trust __(insert name here)__ to use such a machine?"
Yes, anyone.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 2, 2017 5:09:05 GMT -5
Nice groove Like to see it do some "super grinder" rock removal. That blade running the normal direction? Hard to tell which end of the saw is the front. You really trust __(insert name here)__ to use such a machine? This set-up is just a tumble grinder. Not a super grinder. It does pre-grind tumbles super well. |
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jan 2, 2017 19:27:56 GMT -5
Be interesting seeing how the wheels hold up . Stack 6 or 8 of those babies for a super dooper grinder .
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Post by jamesp on Jan 2, 2017 20:45:52 GMT -5
Be interesting seeing how the wheels hold up . Stack 6 or 8 of those babies for a super dooper grinder . You can only put one of those on a tile saw arbor. Arbor is too short to add a 2nd blade. Ground rocks on it today. Liked it. Going to last a long time. This particular brand 5" blade has some of the sharpest diamonds. Required light pressure to cut. The ones with dull diamond particles force you to push the rock down hard on the wheel. Diamond wheels not created equal. |
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Like to see it do some "super grinder" rock removal.
