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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:43:22 GMT -5
I think using a tool to tighten a handle is a huge no no. A recipe for failure.
Loosen? Yes, tighten, no. Well, unless it was designed for a tool, like Jim's double nut locking party vise tightener.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2017 5:04:31 GMT -5
I think using a tool to tighten a handle is a huge no no. A recipe for failure. Loosen? Yes, tighten, no. Well, unless it was designed for a tool, like Jim's double nut locking party vise tightener. In either case, using an external tool to tighten vice keeps saw oil off of your hands. Despised grabbing that oil soaked hand knob every time a rock was clamped. Scott-check out the wood block that is rammed into the thread clamp for more thread clamping force. Allows clamping rock with much greater force. Before doing final tightening just push it down w/palm and wedge it tight before cranking down with wrench. Saves those expensive bronze thread clamps when clamping rocks tight.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 10:07:09 GMT -5
I think using a tool to tighten a handle is a huge no no. A recipe for failure. Loosen? Yes, tighten, no. Well, unless it was designed for a tool, like Jim's double nut locking party vise tightener. In either case, using an external tool to tighten vice keeps saw oil off of your hands. Despised grabbing that oil soaked hand knob every time a rock was clamped. Scott-check out the wood block that is rammed into the thread clamp for more thread clamping force. Allows clamping rock with much greater force. Before doing final tightening just push it down w/palm and wedge it tight before cranking down with wrench. Saves those expensive bronze thread clamps when clamping rocks tight. I don't understand what the bronze thread clamp has to do with tightening vice on stones. Those are 2 independent systems I'm my saw. |
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2017 10:27:34 GMT -5
In either case, using an external tool to tighten vice keeps saw oil off of your hands. Despised grabbing that oil soaked hand knob every time a rock was clamped. Scott-check out the wood block that is rammed into the thread clamp for more thread clamping force. Allows clamping rock with much greater force. Before doing final tightening just push it down w/palm and wedge it tight before cranking down with wrench. Saves those expensive bronze thread clamps when clamping rocks tight. I don't understand what the bronze thread clamp has to do with tightening vice on stones. Those are 2 independent systems I'm my saw. The thread clamp on the vice has limitations when cranking down hard on the vice. The thread clamp pops off the treaded rod due to only a spring force holding thread clamp on threaded rod. Damages the threads on the thread clamp.... By wedging the block in the inside the handles of the thread clamp you are essentially increasing the spring force applied to the threaded rod many fold. I like the dogs on the BD 14 clamp much better. Large movements opening and closing vice performed by sliding movable jaw easily and dropping it into 'dog' notches. Instead of opening thread clamp and sliding movable side of vice jaw. BD 14 has it right. Clamping a rock with a thread clamp in series is sucky. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 10:29:58 GMT -5
I have only ever used one saw. So no clue about comparisons.
It's a Frantom.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2017 11:14:32 GMT -5
I have only ever used one saw. So no clue about comparisons. It's a Frantom. If you can tighten rocks down real tight then you have no concerns. Covington should not have used a small thread clamp in the vicing circuit. They know better. |
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Post by Peruano on Feb 24, 2017 11:34:55 GMT -5
My vice involves the two nuts like Jamses describes. but tightened and loosened with a 3/4" SnapOn open end/box wrench. Nothing but quality for my operation! Yes I could tighten the vice too much and bend or break part of the fulcrum setup, but I don't because I'm sensitive to the effort involved and use wedges to help tighten stones in the vice jaws. The wrech is held on the side of the saw tank with a supermagnet hook - always at hand and never falls off.   |
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Post by jamesp on Feb 25, 2017 9:32:11 GMT -5
PeruanoMy wrench is a cheap oversea brand lol. Snap-On too costly for this operation. Wrench stays intimate with saw, must have tool. May go magnetic too. Next 'handle' replacement is the traversing carriage. Hate turning that little handle, bruises my thumb. Not user friendly. I lost the best vice wrench, combo rock chipper/socket drive. Received great ridicule from @shotgunner and rockpickerforever for this tool. 
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Feb 25, 2017 15:49:07 GMT -5
I think using a tool to tighten a handle is a huge no no. A recipe for failure. Loosen? Yes, tighten, no. Well, unless it was designed for a tool, like Jim's double nut locking party vise tightener. That's why I said to be sure everything down line can handle it. I have a vertical vice that has posts and wingnuts to tighten the plate down and I have used a hammer on those wingnuts each and every time I clamp a rock for 4 years without ever breaking or bending anything. If the vice is built like a tank and just has a wussy handle then making a better handle makes sense. A modified handle also comes in handy for the elderly that would never be able to put enough force into it using a faucet style handle. Chuck |
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Post by jamesp on Feb 25, 2017 16:29:39 GMT -5
I think using a tool to tighten a handle is a huge no no. A recipe for failure. Loosen? Yes, tighten, no. Well, unless it was designed for a tool, like Jim's double nut locking party vise tightener. That's why I said to be sure everything down line can handle it. I have a vertical vice that has posts and wingnuts to tighten the plate down and I have used a hammer on those wingnuts each and every time I clamp a rock for 4 years without ever breaking or bending anything. If the vice is built like a tank and just has a wussy handle then making a better handle makes sense. A modified handle also comes in handy for the elderly that would never be able to put enough force into it using a faucet style handle. Chuck That was the problem on the Covington. Strong vice construction, poor handle construction. Handle stripped in a week after commission. |
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