inbtb
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Post by inbtb on Apr 19, 2017 15:31:58 GMT -5
Hang in there Swabbie.
Les
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 19, 2017 15:36:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the offer Mark. My wife can help with most things, and my trucker/rockhound brother from another mother will be coming by here next month.
I ain't totally helpless yet. It's just a pain in the butt having to do everything with 1 hand. I'm still driving the lawn tractor to mow my yard, tho it's taking a lot longer. At least with 4 acres to cut, it keeps me busy & keeps my mind off of other things.
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Post by Fossilman on Apr 22, 2017 10:26:44 GMT -5
Hell,Old Goats never lay down,they just get tougher and bite everything!! LOL GIT R DONE Brother!!!!!!
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 23, 2017 13:50:50 GMT -5
Woke up yesterday with the right side of my tee shirt soaked in bloody puss. Damned crust over the cancer broke open. spent yesterday & last night at the hospital. Didn't get released til noon today. Now they have me taking antibiotics along with the happy pills. Got my armpit wrapped in gauze which has to be changed 3 times per day. Doc wants to carve on me, but I'm resisting.
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Post by rockjunquie on Apr 23, 2017 13:55:46 GMT -5
Woke up yesterday with the right side of my tee shirt soaked in bloody puss. Damned crust over the cancer broke open. spent yesterday & last night at the hospital. Didn't get released til noon today. Now they have me taking antibiotics along with the happy pills. Got my armpit wrapped in gauze which has to be changed 3 times per day. Doc wants to carve on me, but I'm resisting. That's awful! What kind of surgery does he want to do? Wouldn't it be better to have it and decrease the likelihood of more ER visits. Besides, it's usually better NOT to wait to remove something that is growing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 14:22:06 GMT -5
Not a pleasant thing to wake up to at all! Gotta weigh the pros and cons of surgery for sure, and decide what is most important to you. Sorry you had to go through that.
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 23, 2017 15:41:38 GMT -5
Woke up yesterday with the right side of my tee shirt soaked in bloody puss. Damned crust over the cancer broke open. spent yesterday & last night at the hospital. Didn't get released til noon today. Now they have me taking antibiotics along with the happy pills. Got my armpit wrapped in gauze which has to be changed 3 times per day. Doc wants to carve on me, but I'm resisting. I know you are against holistic medicine but I am going to put it out there anyway and you can do what you want with it. I recommend cleaning the area out with a strong hydrogen peroxide solution, maybe around 11% concentration. You would start with a food grade peroxide, which is generally 35% and dilute it down first with purified water. Still going to hurt like hell, but not as bad as using the 35%. The stuff in stores in the brown bottles is only 3% and has acid stabilizers. Cancer cells lack the enzymes needed to break down peroxides unlike healthy cells. This is the same mechanism by which ozone kills cancer cells and even our own immune system when they can be detected, which is rarely. Cancer cells use various methods, including human chorionic gonadotrophin coatings to evade immune detection. When they are detected killer T-cells attack to the cancer cell and inject peroxide in to the cancer cell. Since the cancer cell cannot break down peroxide the cancer cell swells and bursts. When using ozone or peroxide therapy this is much more aggressive and the cancer cells are killed in a chain reaction, which allows these therapies to follow the cancer cells down in to the tissues. In the case of ozone therapy the ozone reacts with the lipids in the cancer cell membrane and water in the extracellular fluid forming lipid and hydrogen peroxides respectively. As the cancer cells are destroyed the peroxide gets exposed and is broken down enzymatically forming a highly reactive singlet oxygen and water. Some of the singlet oxygen will react with the lipids in the cancer cell membranes forming a new lipid peroxide and the cycle continues until all the cancer is gone or all the singlet oxygen atoms get used up elsewhere. I once watched as 1/100th of a CC, which is such a super tiny amount of 35% peroxide took out about a golf ball size worth of malignant tumor cells in about 2 seconds. And I have seen the same with 35% applied to open malignant tumors with a cotton swab. The tumors do need to be either injected or opened to work properly since the skins oily barrier can prevent the peroxide from reaching underlying cancer cells. Personally I prefer ozone therapy for a number of reasons, but peroxide is much cheaper and will still do the trick. And there is all sorts of research on these in the medical journals if you wish to research it such as this one on ozone: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7403859Science. 1980 Aug 22;209(4459):931-3. Ozone selectively inhibits growth of human cancer cells. Sweet F, Kao MS, Lee SC, Hagar WL, Sweet WE. Abstract The growth of human cancer cells from lung, breast, and uterine tumors was selectively inhibited in a dose-dependent manner by ozone at 0.3 to 0.8 part per million of ozone in ambient air during 8 days of culture. Human lung diploid fibroblasts served as noncancerous control cells. The presence of ozone at 0.3 to 0.5 part per million inhibited cancer cell growth 40 and 60 percent, respectively. The noncancerous lung cells were unaffected at these levels. Exposure to ozone at 0.8 part per million inhibited cancer cell growth more than 90 percent and control cell growth less than 50 percent. Evidently, the mechanisms for defense against ozone damage are impaired in human cancer cells. And for peroxide: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11421625and Accumulation of hydrogen peroxide is an early and crucial step for paclitaxel-induced cancer cell death both in vitro and in vivo. Some cancer drugs such as doxorubicin kill cancer cells by leading to an accumulation of peroxide in the cancer cells. There is going to be some controversy over this since some cancer cells can produce trace amounts of peroxide that play a role in their survival and proliferation. But I am basically talking about a peroxide overload here, which cancer cells cannot survive.
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Post by rockjunquie on Apr 23, 2017 17:17:01 GMT -5
Woke up yesterday with the right side of my tee shirt soaked in bloody puss. Damned crust over the cancer broke open. spent yesterday & last night at the hospital. Didn't get released til noon today. Now they have me taking antibiotics along with the happy pills. Got my armpit wrapped in gauze which has to be changed 3 times per day. Doc wants to carve on me, but I'm resisting. I know you are against holistic medicine but I am going to put it out there anyway and you can do what you want with it. I recommend cleaning the area out with a strong hydrogen peroxide solution, maybe around 11% concentration. You would start with a food grade peroxide, which is generally 35% and dilute it down first with purified water. Still going to hurt like hell, but not as bad as using the 35%. The stuff in stores in the brown bottles is only 3% and has acid stabilizers. Cancer cells lack the enzymes needed to break down peroxides unlike healthy cells. This is the same mechanism by which ozone kills cancer cells and even our own immune system when they can be detected, which is rarely. Cancer cells use various methods, including human chorionic gonadotrophin coatings to evade immune detection. When they are detected killer T-cells attack to the cancer cell and inject peroxide in to the cancer cell. Since the cancer cell cannot break down peroxide the cancer cell swells and bursts. When using ozone or peroxide therapy this is much more aggressive and the cancer cells are killed in a chain reaction, which allows these therapies to follow the cancer cells down in to the tissues. In the case of ozone therapy the ozone reacts with the lipids in the cancer cell membrane and water in the extracellular fluid forming lipid and hydrogen peroxides respectively. As the cancer cells are destroyed the peroxide gets exposed and is broken down enzymatically forming a highly reactive singlet oxygen and water. Some of the singlet oxygen will react with the lipids in the cancer cell membranes forming a new lipid peroxide and the cycle continues until all the cancer is gone or all the singlet oxygen atoms get used up elsewhere. I once watched as 1/100th of a CC, which is such a super tiny amount of 35% peroxide took out about a golf ball size worth of malignant tumor cells in about 2 seconds. And I have seen the same with 35% applied to open malignant tumors with a cotton swab. The tumors do need to be either injected or opened to work properly since the skins oily barrier can prevent the peroxide from reaching underlying cancer cells. Personally I prefer ozone therapy for a number of reasons, but peroxide is much cheaper and will still do the trick. And there is all sorts of research on these in the medical journals if you wish to research it such as this one on ozone: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7403859Science. 1980 Aug 22;209(4459):931-3. Ozone selectively inhibits growth of human cancer cells. Sweet F, Kao MS, Lee SC, Hagar WL, Sweet WE. Abstract The growth of human cancer cells from lung, breast, and uterine tumors was selectively inhibited in a dose-dependent manner by ozone at 0.3 to 0.8 part per million of ozone in ambient air during 8 days of culture. Human lung diploid fibroblasts served as noncancerous control cells. The presence of ozone at 0.3 to 0.5 part per million inhibited cancer cell growth 40 and 60 percent, respectively. The noncancerous lung cells were unaffected at these levels. Exposure to ozone at 0.8 part per million inhibited cancer cell growth more than 90 percent and control cell growth less than 50 percent. Evidently, the mechanisms for defense against ozone damage are impaired in human cancer cells. And for peroxide: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11421625and Accumulation of hydrogen peroxide is an early and crucial step for paclitaxel-induced cancer cell death both in vitro and in vivo. Some cancer drugs such as doxorubicin kill cancer cells by leading to an accumulation of peroxide in the cancer cells. There is going to be some controversy over this since some cancer cells can produce trace amounts of peroxide that play a role in their survival and proliferation. But I am basically talking about a peroxide overload here, which cancer cells cannot survive. OK, how do you know all this stuff? Independent study or some type of school? Impressive.
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 23, 2017 17:31:49 GMT -5
I know you are against holistic medicine but I am going to put it out there anyway and you can do what you want with it. I recommend cleaning the area out with a strong hydrogen peroxide solution, maybe around 11% concentration. You would start with a food grade peroxide, which is generally 35% and dilute it down first with purified water. Still going to hurt like hell, but not as bad as using the 35%. The stuff in stores in the brown bottles is only 3% and has acid stabilizers. Cancer cells lack the enzymes needed to break down peroxides unlike healthy cells. This is the same mechanism by which ozone kills cancer cells and even our own immune system when they can be detected, which is rarely. Cancer cells use various methods, including human chorionic gonadotrophin coatings to evade immune detection. When they are detected killer T-cells attack to the cancer cell and inject peroxide in to the cancer cell. Since the cancer cell cannot break down peroxide the cancer cell swells and bursts. When using ozone or peroxide therapy this is much more aggressive and the cancer cells are killed in a chain reaction, which allows these therapies to follow the cancer cells down in to the tissues. In the case of ozone therapy the ozone reacts with the lipids in the cancer cell membrane and water in the extracellular fluid forming lipid and hydrogen peroxides respectively. As the cancer cells are destroyed the peroxide gets exposed and is broken down enzymatically forming a highly reactive singlet oxygen and water. Some of the singlet oxygen will react with the lipids in the cancer cell membranes forming a new lipid peroxide and the cycle continues until all the cancer is gone or all the singlet oxygen atoms get used up elsewhere. I once watched as 1/100th of a CC, which is such a super tiny amount of 35% peroxide took out about a golf ball size worth of malignant tumor cells in about 2 seconds. And I have seen the same with 35% applied to open malignant tumors with a cotton swab. The tumors do need to be either injected or opened to work properly since the skins oily barrier can prevent the peroxide from reaching underlying cancer cells. Personally I prefer ozone therapy for a number of reasons, but peroxide is much cheaper and will still do the trick. And there is all sorts of research on these in the medical journals if you wish to research it such as this one on ozone: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7403859Science. 1980 Aug 22;209(4459):931-3. Ozone selectively inhibits growth of human cancer cells. Sweet F, Kao MS, Lee SC, Hagar WL, Sweet WE. Abstract The growth of human cancer cells from lung, breast, and uterine tumors was selectively inhibited in a dose-dependent manner by ozone at 0.3 to 0.8 part per million of ozone in ambient air during 8 days of culture. Human lung diploid fibroblasts served as noncancerous control cells. The presence of ozone at 0.3 to 0.5 part per million inhibited cancer cell growth 40 and 60 percent, respectively. The noncancerous lung cells were unaffected at these levels. Exposure to ozone at 0.8 part per million inhibited cancer cell growth more than 90 percent and control cell growth less than 50 percent. Evidently, the mechanisms for defense against ozone damage are impaired in human cancer cells. And for peroxide: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11421625and Accumulation of hydrogen peroxide is an early and crucial step for paclitaxel-induced cancer cell death both in vitro and in vivo. Some cancer drugs such as doxorubicin kill cancer cells by leading to an accumulation of peroxide in the cancer cells. There is going to be some controversy over this since some cancer cells can produce trace amounts of peroxide that play a role in their survival and proliferation. But I am basically talking about a peroxide overload here, which cancer cells cannot survive. OK, how do you know all this stuff? Independent study or some type of school? Impressive. My crystal ball tells me. Just kidding. 38 years in medicine. Started out in allopathic medicine, but got fed up with all the corruption and outright stupidity and so I quit allopathic medicine. So the last couple of decades been working in and teaching holistic medicine. So I spend a whole lot of time reading medical journals and studying the chemistry and mechanics of the human body. Much of what people refer to as holistic or alternative medicine is actually backed by better science than a lot of the allopathic medicine. And even most of the drugs made are made directly from herbs or based on their chemistry.
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Post by rockjunquie on Apr 24, 2017 14:15:45 GMT -5
vegasjames- That's very impressive. My brother is a complete layman, but he studies the way the human body works, too. Not to your degree, but I've heard him say some similar things. Currently, I have to take time release potassium and I added lysine for my psoriasis because someone swore by it. My ldl went down and the good cholesterol went up. Rather dramatically actually. Go figure. My liver produces to much cholesterol. It's called the family curse. I could eat lettuce 24/7/365 and my ldl would be high. Anyway- I don't want to hijack- just wanted to add that.
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 24, 2017 14:35:41 GMT -5
vegasjames - That's very impressive. My brother is a complete layman, but he studies the way the human body works, too. Not to your degree, but I've heard him say some similar things. Currently, I have to take time release potassium and I added lysine for my psoriasis because someone swore by it. My ldl went down and the good cholesterol went up. Rather dramatically actually. Go figure. My liver produces to much cholesterol. It's called the family curse. I could eat lettuce 24/7/365 and my ldl would be high. Anyway- I don't want to hijack- just wanted to add that. I think I posted something on psoriasis for you before. High cholesterol has never really been proven to be hereditary. Its either a liver or thyroid issue or both. A good fish oil will also lower LDL and increase HDL and is one of the things that can help with psoriasis. Lecithin granules and digestive bitters will do wonders for lowering cholesterol. Plant sterols also lower cholesterol by binding to cholesterol preventing absorption and reabsorption. There is a tea you can get in Chinatown called jiaogulan (Gynostemma, Gynostemma pentaphyllum) that is the highest sterol source I have seen. Will also help with psoriasis by supporting adrenal function.
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Post by rockjunquie on Apr 24, 2017 14:45:41 GMT -5
vegasjames - That's very impressive. My brother is a complete layman, but he studies the way the human body works, too. Not to your degree, but I've heard him say some similar things. Currently, I have to take time release potassium and I added lysine for my psoriasis because someone swore by it. My ldl went down and the good cholesterol went up. Rather dramatically actually. Go figure. My liver produces to much cholesterol. It's called the family curse. I could eat lettuce 24/7/365 and my ldl would be high. Anyway- I don't want to hijack- just wanted to add that. I think I posted something on psoriasis for you before. High cholesterol has never really been proven to be hereditary. Its either a liver or thyroid issue or both. A good fish oil will also lower LDL and increase HDL and is one of the things that can help with psoriasis. Lecithin granules and digestive bitters will do wonders for lowering cholesterol. Plant sterols also lower cholesterol by binding to cholesterol preventing absorption and reabsorption. There is a tea you can get in Chinatown called jiaogulan (Gynostemma, Gynostemma pentaphyllum) that is the highest sterol source I have seen. Will also help with psoriasis by supporting adrenal function. Yes, you did post about P before.
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Post by 1dave on Apr 30, 2017 16:11:27 GMT -5
Woke up yesterday with the right side of my tee shirt soaked in bloody puss. Damned crust over the cancer broke open. spent yesterday & last night at the hospital. Didn't get released til noon today. Now they have me taking antibiotics along with the happy pills. Got my armpit wrapped in gauze which has to be changed 3 times per day. Doc wants to carve on me, but I'm resisting. This is the last we have heard from Don. I hope he is doing OK.
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 30, 2017 19:30:38 GMT -5
LOL Dave, I'm still alive & kickin. Just been so damned weak with the meds they have me on, all I've wanted to do is sit in my recliner staring at the TV.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 20:08:49 GMT -5
LOL Dave, I'm still alive & kickin. Just been so damned weak with the meds they have me on, all I've wanted to do is sit in my recliner staring at the TV. Don, is there some thyroid cancer based research charity you are aware of? I'd like to donate towards this cause in your honour. Perhaps others would also.
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Mark K
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Post by Mark K on Apr 30, 2017 21:37:13 GMT -5
I would prefer that someone came up with a cure in Don's honor. AND.,.. while he is still here.
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Post by Tommy on Apr 30, 2017 22:13:37 GMT -5
I would prefer that someone came up with a cure in Don's honor. AND.,.. while he is still here. hear hear
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 30, 2017 23:20:00 GMT -5
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Post by jakesrocks on May 1, 2017 10:46:06 GMT -5
LOL Dave, I'm still alive & kickin. Just been so damned weak with the meds they have me on, all I've wanted to do is sit in my recliner staring at the TV. Don, is there some thyroid cancer based research charity you are aware of? I'd like to donate towards this cause in your honour. Perhaps others would also. The so called cancer research centers are so crooked that I'd prefer to see donations go to Wounded Warriors, or the ASPCA. I've heard that there are already proven cures out there that aren't being released because it will cut into all of the grant money big pharma is getting from us tax payers.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 13:15:24 GMT -5
Don, is there some thyroid cancer based research charity you are aware of? I'd like to donate towards this cause in your honour. Perhaps others would also. The so called cancer research centers are so crooked that I'd prefer to see donations go to Wounded Warriors, or the ASPCA. I've heard that there are already proven cures out there that aren't being released because it will cut into all of the grant money big pharma is getting from us tax payers. Done. I choose wounded warriors project due to my own knowledge of ASPCA. Here is a link in the event others would want to use it. WWPDon, My donation is in your honour. A small token to the WWP to recognise your contributions to the USA, me and everyone else here. I pleases me to know that I am able to make that recognition while you are still with us. Your life was full of experiences. You have done many things and been many places. A life worth living. My only regret is we never met in person. Thank you for the example you set. Thank you for your service to our nation. Peace be with you. Keep after it my friend.
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