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Post by 1dave on Oct 9, 2017 11:44:03 GMT -5
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Post by 1dave on Oct 9, 2017 12:01:30 GMT -5
Page 3 of March 1966 issue Back page of March 1966 issue
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Post by ChicagoDave on Oct 9, 2017 12:29:56 GMT -5
Very cool. It's amazing how the machines are still almost identical to what's available today. Few more bells and whistles now, but they obviously got the design right quite some time ago.
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Post by pauls on Oct 9, 2017 15:21:04 GMT -5
"It is to be understood that the figures and angles given here are for the purpose of being a close guide and that they might be subject to slight variations." Thats written on the "Marquis" cut instructions, probably best if you want to do this to proof cut it in Gemcad first and get the angles right. Its the same with a lot of these early diagrams, they must have been b******s to cut, probably put a lot of people off faceting for life. A really good resource for facetors is the Old Puablo Lapidary clubs facetors CD, free to download from, www.rockhounds.com/oplc/Some fantastic designs here, www.gemologyproject.com/wiki/index.php?title=Faceting_Designs
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Post by 1dave on Oct 9, 2017 20:21:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 21:52:00 GMT -5
I once read the story of a dude (maybe this one) that was about the detective and persuasive work that had to be done to gain access to the originals and make moulds and castings for future measurements. Trips to Europe and Smithsonian and and and....
A great read. Don't remember if it was paper or internet.
He even found moulds/castings of the precursor to the Hope and was able to measure and cut those.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 22:03:24 GMT -5
Yeah, same guy! He is amazing. persistent. Persuasive. Clever. Creative and extremely talented.
The article I read way back when had him using CZ because he could color match the originals
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Post by 1dave on Oct 10, 2017 7:50:06 GMT -5
"It is to be understood that the figures and angles given here are for the purpose of being a close guide and that they might be subject to slight variations." Thats written on the "Marquis" cut instructions, probably best if you want to do this to proof cut it in Gemcad first and get the angles right. Its the same with a lot of these early diagrams, they must have been b******s to cut, probably put a lot of people off faceting for life. A really good resource for facetors is the Old Puablo Lapidary clubs facetors CD, free to download from, www.rockhounds.com/oplc/Some fantastic designs here, www.gemologyproject.com/wiki/index.php?title=Faceting_DesignsIt also states Perhaps it is an age perspective thing. What you consider "early diagrams" I consider "late." I like www.facetinghistory.com/timeline.htmlEDIT:
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Post by 1dave on Oct 10, 2017 8:16:50 GMT -5
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Post by 1dave on Oct 10, 2017 9:35:26 GMT -5
For polishing mirrors - stellafane.org/misc/links.htmlGrinding Machines A Mirror O Matic machine A Mirror-O-Matic Machine 20" Mirror-O-Matic by Atila 24" Machine by Bill Automatic Cerium Stirring Computerized Mirror Making Forum Drapier Grinding Machine Elgin Style Machine Fine Grinding a 20" by Gordon Grinding Machine by Juhani Grinding & Polishing Machine by Ted Grinding Machine by Tom Grinding Machines by GAP47 Horizontal Lapping Wheel Plans How To Use A Polishing Machine by GAP47 James' Machine Laurie's Mirror Grinding Machine Machines Summary by GAP47 Mike's Machine Mirror Grinder by Jim Mirror Grinding Machine by Armin (Video) Mirror O Matic Mirror-O-Matic by Berthold Mirror-O-Matic by Greg Mirror-O-Matic Operations Page Modified Near-Drapier Video My Mirror Grinding Machine by Tom Only As Good As Their Telescopes by ASME Pendulum Grinder by Ted Polishing Machine by Laurie Polishing Machine Video Rough Grinding a 20" by Gordon Small Machine by Laurie Small Spindle by Bob Woodware Grinding Stand Plans
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Post by 1dave on Oct 12, 2017 7:16:35 GMT -5
INFO:
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Post by 1dave on Oct 12, 2017 7:19:39 GMT -5
For Spinel
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Post by 1dave on Oct 13, 2017 8:58:52 GMT -5
Ed mohs this post is just for you - Mostly. Faceting a quartz Heart - A Spinel Heart - A Quartz Heart with 11 Mains.
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Post by 1dave on Oct 14, 2017 8:56:47 GMT -5
The American Brilliant
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Post by 1dave on Oct 16, 2017 10:47:52 GMT -5
Oval - Quartz Oval - Spinel
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Post by 1dave on Oct 17, 2017 6:42:32 GMT -5
Pendeloque - Quartz
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Post by pauls on Mar 2, 2020 20:55:26 GMT -5
That is the exact same machine as an Aussie "Robilt" I wonder if They imported and rebranded this machine or borrowed the design? Nah, it would have to be a rebranding job it is not just close it's exactly the same, even down to the cast water pot.
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Post by joshuamcduffie on Mar 2, 2020 21:40:32 GMT -5
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Post by dreamrocks on Mar 3, 2020 6:57:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't know how much to sell it for. I saw the exact one that sold for $1000.00 with nothing but the machine. I have dops, 45* adapter and could add a couple used laps and some quartz facet rough maybe a book or two on faceting. Then all that adds to the shipping weight jacking up the cost to you.
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