Djinjuice
starting to shine!
Member since March 2003
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Hey Doc
Jun 25, 2004 15:13:31 GMT -5
Post by Djinjuice on Jun 25, 2004 15:13:31 GMT -5
Hey Docone, you still cutting stones down there in Florida?
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Hey Doc
Jun 25, 2004 22:58:10 GMT -5
Post by docone31 on Jun 25, 2004 22:58:10 GMT -5
My wife's mother took ill, according to her, and we moved to Los Angeles to be with her. We gave up our shop, sold the house, and she is as tough as a football player. Arrrrrgh! She did it again to my wife.
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Hey Doc
Jun 25, 2004 23:04:51 GMT -5
Post by cookie3rocks on Jun 25, 2004 23:04:51 GMT -5
Just an eentsy bit bitter? Mt maternal grand mother was like that, god rest her soul. You will be blessed for what you are doing,Doc. Your karma meter is in the black. Just keep looking forward. cookie
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Hey Doc
Jun 26, 2004 0:51:51 GMT -5
Post by docone31 on Jun 26, 2004 0:51:51 GMT -5
Not bitter, so much as burned out. My wife is fighting for balance in all this. Their relationship is improving and she is getting better balance on things than we had before. The lifetime of misunderstandings are falling by the wayside There were issues and we are fortunate to be in a place where we can close dark doors and put on some lights in otherwise dark rooms. Making jewelery with darkness looming is not the best position to be in. We got here, the Bengals had been fighting the whole way, the van overheated and finally the new engine quit right in the driveway. It has the typical Floriduh warranty, good as long as nothing happens, boy. Her mother is that important, and once we figuire out where we are we will open up again. I miss the customers and their unusual requests.
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Hey Doc
Jul 3, 2004 16:10:25 GMT -5
Post by sandsman1 on Jul 3, 2004 16:10:25 GMT -5
hey doc a ? i have a drum and leather belt on the way and i was wondering can ya tell my how to use it to polish do i have to make a paste of cerium? -- i dont even know where to start any help would help hahaha seeya---john
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Hey Doc
Jul 3, 2004 16:25:04 GMT -5
Post by docone31 on Jul 3, 2004 16:25:04 GMT -5
With the Cerium, put some in a dish. Not much, just some. Get a sponge from the store. One to wash dishes, they usually come in packs of three. Dampen the sponge and rub it into the Cerium. Turn the polisher on and off, as it slows down press the sponge to the belt. Only use Cerium. If you go to tin oxide, do not go back to Cerium. Tin oxide is not compatible on a polish with Cerium. Make sure the drum spins at 1750rpm. If it is a conventional grinding wheel, go to an hardware store and get a ceiling fan rheostat rated for 600W. Not too expensive. Splice into the power cord so it controls the speed of the grinder. Polish away.
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Hey Doc
Jul 3, 2004 17:50:27 GMT -5
Post by sandsman1 on Jul 3, 2004 17:50:27 GMT -5
so like acouple pinches in a little bowl and let it spin on the belt and im thinkin from before i think you said the water drip is off right dont want leather belt wet,,
i have a lortone grinder and it has three pullys in the back i have it on the small one thats about the size on the motor so that would be the fastest right and the motor is 1725 rpm so thats my max
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Hey Doc
Jul 3, 2004 17:58:14 GMT -5
Post by docone31 on Jul 3, 2004 17:58:14 GMT -5
The Loretone will be the correct speed. The pulleys would be, for the smallest one 1-1 1/2. That gives 1750. 1725 would be great. No water drip on the leather, and watch the level in the catch pan. Damp the sponge and dab on the Cerium. Than apply. Add as needed You will like that setup.
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Hey Doc
Jul 3, 2004 18:22:19 GMT -5
Post by sandsman1 on Jul 3, 2004 18:22:19 GMT -5
THANKS doc now i got a place to start hahaha -seeya--john
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Post by puppie96 on Jul 4, 2004 4:31:27 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, what happens with the tin oxide and cerium that makes them incompatible?
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Hey Doc
Jul 4, 2004 14:26:52 GMT -5
Post by docone31 on Jul 4, 2004 14:26:52 GMT -5
Tin Oxide is harder than Cerium Oxide. When using a stone that recquires Cerium, if you have been Using Tin, it is hard to polish. With a leather belt, it won't clean up like a phenolic disc. In a drum, you just scrub out. No worries there.
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Post by puppie96 on Jul 5, 2004 2:15:27 GMT -5
Thanks, that's interesting. It's got me rethinking what might have happened with some of my results.
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Djinjuice
starting to shine!
Member since March 2003
Posts: 47
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Hey Doc
Jul 8, 2004 10:51:20 GMT -5
Post by Djinjuice on Jul 8, 2004 10:51:20 GMT -5
Hi Doc, It's true, you are a good person and good things will come back to you. I lost my mother a few months ago and miss her every day, even those days that she drove me crazy . Been a while since I have been to LA, but at least you are close to some rockhounding hotspots. I know there are some geode beds out there, and I believe the Pala Mine (tourmaline) still lets people in to collect material. Quite a bit of stuff to be had in Riverside county too. Hope all goes well as soon as possible. ;D
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Hey Doc
Jul 8, 2004 11:17:36 GMT -5
Post by docone31 on Jul 8, 2004 11:17:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the encouraging words. Right now, I need it. My wife's family is one of the most blatantly intentionaly disfunctional families I have ever seen. I am talking cruelty. My wife, who is one of the most gentle people I have ever met, made one of her one of kind earrings for her mother. Her mother told her is was a trailer trash earring. She is still shattered and has not touched her tools since. Her design was brilliant! She came up with a design for people who are sensitive to metal in their piercing and still want to wear jewelery. I have played with the concept for years and she put it together. It is so hard. We have been looking to alternate arrangements, and Vegas is one of them. I am used to making jewelery for dancers and drag queens, some of them top names. I know it is not a reality, however I am convinced the people we have run into would not know what jewelery is. I know this is not the standard to evaluate, but what I have seen, these folks here would be underdressed at a redneck homemade beer picnic. I am just in the dumps right now, I found out last night my brother in law, a CEO of a major silicone chip oriented company, a pioneer in software, deliberately stomped on the fresh tile I laid in the kitchen trashing my pattern. To fix it, I have to relay the entire kitchen floor. I laid the tile at my own expense and time. I found out last night at the usual moot court dinner, he laid his own tile in his home and Jenne's mother just laid out 180,000$ for a Lupo violin for him. She won't even lay out for materials for her own property. My head is so full of wondernment I cannot pick up my tools either. My wife says she needs to be here for her so I keep my peace. We are both pastors and I fight to keep from judgement. My wife's mother was never ill, she was just bored. She now wants an unikite and shale necklace. I cannot make an unikite and shale necklace. I cannot work with vomit stone and oil bearing strata!!! I pray a lot.
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donwrob
has rocks in the head
Member since June 2003
Posts: 509
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Hey Doc
Jul 8, 2004 11:34:52 GMT -5
Post by donwrob on Jul 8, 2004 11:34:52 GMT -5
DOC! Hang in there buddy. I haven't seen a family that WASN'T disfunctional. You may be down in the dumps, but you sure cheered me up...lol. I'd love to sit and talk with you at one of those 'redneck homemade beer picnics' maybe with a couple of Vegas show girls wearing nothing but vomit stone and oil bearing strata jewerly. We'd have a good old time ;D Keep your sanity doc, you have an interesting way of looking at the world and a great sense of humor, your friend, Don
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Djinjuice
starting to shine!
Member since March 2003
Posts: 47
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Hey Doc
Jul 8, 2004 11:36:53 GMT -5
Post by Djinjuice on Jul 8, 2004 11:36:53 GMT -5
Keep your head up Doc. Some people are mean and nasty because they don't like themselves very much. The only outlet they have is to hurt people close to them. They come to realize that hurting the people they love is a terrible thing, but most of the time it is too late. The last couple years of my life have been very ( ) trying. I have come to believe in the simplicity that you have to do what makes you happy. Everything else falls in to place. Things happen for a reason don't they?
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Hey Doc
Jul 8, 2004 12:01:42 GMT -5
Post by rockyraccoon on Jul 8, 2004 12:01:42 GMT -5
doc when i was counseling i use to have a cartoon in my office - "conference for non-dysfunctional families" - all the seats were empty ;D. hope that makes you feel better.
kim
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Hey Doc
Jul 8, 2004 12:17:39 GMT -5
Post by docone31 on Jul 8, 2004 12:17:39 GMT -5
In reflection, I suspect applying patience has a strengthening effect. Much like working the stone, or forming the metal. Much like working the stone, what are my motives, what is my part, is what I expect reasonable? I have found expectations are indeed preconcieved resentments. Today is a peaceful day, only road traffic noise, a few passerbys that are trying to look like parrots, someone was rifling our gargabe looking for treasures. I will clean the mess up later. I do try to leave deposit bottles in the trash. I have been as they in my journey in designing my jewelery. I too would have felt small if someone walked up to me while I was forming inner strength and gave me change. I do not like to leave messes, but so what if I have to pick up a little debris? Makes me think one of those folks just might come to feel the excitement I had come to know through my walk. I got all my inspiration those times when food was scarce and hope was hard to hold. My wife's mother left early so she can attend an alumni meeting at the college she never graduated from, to try to organize a plan to to solve the indigent problem. She wants to eliminate the problem from this shining example of excess. I feel uncomfortable at that. I felt uncomfortable at the memorial dinner here where the crowd bashed veterans, born again pastors. I was brought back to my Vietnam days when I came home wounded, and was shunned, for years. For right or wrong, I am no judge, I hope is someone needs to be heard I am there it hear. My tumbler is silent, my faceter has dust, my torch has no flame, my stones sit. I go to them and I just cannot go beyond touching them. It is always darkest before the dawn, and perhaps this is just what I am experiencing. With the dawn comes the light, gentle at first, then growing into something that leaves sharp shadows. Creatures of the dark flee from the light. Perhaps I can show the light is not to be feared. That light gives life. Many times my stones have given me peace, given me a sense of belonging, tactile and visual. Perhaps this is a part of moving into deeper light.
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Hey Doc
Jul 8, 2004 12:20:07 GMT -5
Post by hermatite on Jul 8, 2004 12:20:07 GMT -5
Doc, I believe you may be an eyewitness to one of the true equestrian miracles occurring in the world today... There are more horses asses than there are horses. Don't let them get you down. I know it's hard to keep quiet and turn the other cheek, but at times like these it's helpful to remember those immortal words "blessed are the cheesemakers". Everything always works out....I know that sounds pollyannaish...but I'm serious...it always does. I wish you and your wife the best.
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shorty
spending too much on rocks
Member since December 2003
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Hey Doc
Jul 8, 2004 12:38:03 GMT -5
Post by shorty on Jul 8, 2004 12:38:03 GMT -5
HI DOC ITS SHORTY HERE I NOW JUST WHAT YOU AR FEELING I WAS IN VIET NAM IN THE MARINES IN SPECIAL FORCES AND I GOT WOUNDED I HAD MY RITE ARM BLUE OFF AND LEFT SHOULDER BLUE UP MY RITE SIDE THREE PLACES MY RITE ANCLE BLUE UP ONE PICE OF SHRAPINEL IN MY HEAD .AND WHEN I CAME HOME I GOT THE SAME TREATMENT ..AND TO THIS DAY I STILL GET TREETED LIKE SHIT BY THE PEOPLE I THOT I WAS HELPING BE FREE AND JUST TO YEARS AGO I TO LEFT MY JOB AND HOUSE AND EVERY THANG TO HELP MY MOYHER .. WHO HAD CANCER IN THE BRAIN .. SHE DIED AFTER A YEAR AND SHE GOT SO BAD THAT I TO THOT TO MY SELF WHY IM I DONING THIS AND CAME TO REALIZE THAT IF I DIDNT WHO ELSE WOULD I HAVE TO SISTERS AND ONE ONLY LIVES 30 MILES AWY AND THAUT THAT MOM HAD TO BUY HERE GAS TO TAKE HER TO THE HOSPITAL ..GET MY POINT SO I SAID THE HELL WITH THEM AND IT MY SELF AND I LOOK BACK AT THAT AND SAY I AT LEAST HELPED WITH NO APPREACION . BUT I NOW WHAT I GAVE UP BUT I WOULD DO IT AGAIN IN A HART BEAT .. AT LEAST YOU AND YOUR WIFE CAN LOOK BACK AND SAY AT LEAST WE GAVE UP EVERY THANG TO HELP HER EVEN THOW SHE IS MEAN
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