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Post by captbob on Dec 4, 2017 12:24:22 GMT -5
Already called the guy and he won't separate the lot (yet). No interest in all that other crap, just considered the Viking for fun. Last thing I need is a POS faceting machine and a bunch of old used Lortone barrels. No telling what that saw is or what it might be worth. Not that I need it either. He posted the listing for someone else, so doesn't know what he has. Has someone coming to see the whole lot tonight (guess he works during the day) and said he has my # if the guy doesn't buy. Don't really care either way. Viking is probably too noisy to run here anyway.
On the other hand, it would be a nice road trip and probably piss off my wife enough to be worth it!
ETA: have to run out this afternoon and meet a guy to pick up another Model B tumbler I bought off eBay last night. High speed motor. Think that will make 11 or 12 of them things I'll have now. Only 7 running right now, but looking forward to adding another high speed model to the batch.
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Post by grumpybill on Dec 4, 2017 12:30:49 GMT -5
Aw crap! I was near there last month at this time.
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Post by MrP on Dec 4, 2017 13:10:41 GMT -5
You need to figure out Air Ride for the soft ones............................MrP Wonder if a rubber pad between the base and the new pipe holder thingy would cushion the ride for soft rocks and still allow the motion. Or maybe between the pipe and hoppers - which would probably require a new piece of pipe. I believe all vibrations travel at different rates through different materials so there may be a changing using a rubber pad. Good thought....................MrP
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Post by MrP on Dec 4, 2017 13:20:27 GMT -5
Now that would be a buy!..............................MrP
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Post by captbob on Dec 4, 2017 14:23:48 GMT -5
Now that would be a buy!..............................MrP You really think so Mr. P? I'm eyeballin' the lot and wondering if I could even get my money back out of it - if I paid full price. I could call the seller back and offer full asking price... Pretty sure I know who is going to look at it, and that guy will lowball the heck out of the seller. Figuring the Lortone tumbler & extra barrels are worth maybe 75 bucks. Hardly worth the hassle to sell. The saw another 200 if put together and it runs. That facet machine bothers me. I see similar at rock shows for VERY low prices and they are usually still there at the end of the show. Not sure anyone would want such an old unit - even IF it works. The flat lap I consider trash. The Viking I figure is worth maybe 300 bucks? I know what they cost new, but that one ain't new. Probably keep all the grit as it's not worth the hassle of selling & shipping. Would like to know what is in that yellow box. If more barrels for the Viking that would be great. Not thinking the lot is profitable.
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Post by MrP on Dec 4, 2017 15:33:50 GMT -5
Now that would be a buy!..............................MrP You really think so Mr. P? I'm eyeballin' the lot and wondering if I could even get my money back out of it - if I paid full price. I could call the seller back and offer full asking price... Pretty sure I know who is going to look at it, and that guy will lowball the heck out of the seller. Figuring the Lortone tumbler & extra barrels are worth maybe 75 bucks. Hardly worth the hassle to sell. The saw another 200 if put together and it runs. That facet machine bothers me. I see similar at rock shows for VERY low prices and they are usually still there at the end of the show. Not sure anyone would want such an old unit - even IF it works. The flat lap I consider trash. The Viking I figure is worth maybe 300 bucks? I know what they cost new, but that one ain't new. Probably keep all the grit as it's not worth the hassle of selling & shipping. Would like to know what is in that yellow box. If more barrels for the Viking that would be great. Not thinking the lot is profitable. I wasn't thinking for resale. That makes it all different especially how you make things look once you get them..........................MrP
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Post by adam on Dec 4, 2017 16:20:57 GMT -5
I like the banded rhyolite.
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Post by captbob on Dec 4, 2017 18:38:29 GMT -5
I wasn't thinking for resale. That makes it all different especially how you make things look once you get them..........................MrP At my age, unless I'm buying beer, cigarettes or toilet paper, I consider the return potential on monies spent.
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Post by adam on Dec 5, 2017 5:22:30 GMT -5
I like the banded rhyolite. Thanks Adam. I messed that rock up by heat treating it. It is Montana rhyolite. Hard enough to take a tumble polish till I heated it which softens about all rocks. But the rhyolite really got soft. So soft obsidian and glass scratches it. I will rerun it in polish, may take 3 days in polish. May have to run it with Linde 50,000 after that. The rest of it in that batch: So softer material needs more time to polish than harder material? Or did I get that backwards. I'm not sure that I get it, but okay. Maybe that's why I can't tumble soft stones successfully. Did heat treatment alter the colors? Is the texture grainy? Kinda looks grainy, but 50,000 grit would take care of that, huh. I like rhyolite with high silica content, takes a superb shine. Yeah boy. That Utah rhyolite, does people call it wonderstone as well?
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Post by jamesp on Dec 5, 2017 6:27:15 GMT -5
Thanks Adam. I messed that rock up by heat treating it. It is Montana rhyolite. Hard enough to take a tumble polish till I heated it which softens about all rocks. But the rhyolite really got soft. So soft obsidian and glass scratches it. I will rerun it in polish, may take 3 days in polish. May have to run it with Linde 50,000 after that. The rest of it in that batch: So softer material needs more time to polish than harder material? Or did I get that backwards. I'm not sure that I get it, but okay. Maybe that's why I can't tumble soft stones successfully. Did heat treatment alter the colors? Is the texture grainy? Kinda looks grainy, but 50,000 grit would take care of that, huh. I like rhyolite with high silica content, takes a superb shine. Yeah boy. That Utah rhyolite, does people call it wonderstone as well? Tough question- why do soft rocks take longer to polish ? They sure do in my findings. I have no answer for that one Adam. No idea. None. An enigma. I have a flickr link to the rhyolite heat treatment before and after thingy. Yes, the heat lessoned the graininess. Why it does that is another enigma. No doubt, higher silica content rhyolite is harder and way easier to polish like N. Mexico and Utah rhyolite(wonderstone). The big chunks are Montana rhyolite before heat. There are also some N. Mexico rhyolite, it is yellower. The Montana is more purple tinted.: www.flickr.com/photos/67205364@N06/sets/72157649620386342
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 20:39:21 GMT -5
Reckon there is plenty of room in there for several pounds worth! You almost got beer out my nostrils with that one! Hahahaha!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 20:43:16 GMT -5
What brand of analyzer did you use and does size matter in this case?...............................MrP Looks like a 5/8" Craftsman probe attached to a Georgia Redneck analyzer. That is the 75" model Georgia Redneck analyser. Sorry, Bill. This is simply added for precision.
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Post by Pat on Dec 5, 2017 21:33:14 GMT -5
jamespDo you need obsidian? I have a lot. Want it? It’s just taking up space. Let me know. I’ll send it.
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Post by jamesp on Dec 5, 2017 22:37:29 GMT -5
jamespDo you need obsidian? I have a lot. Want it? It’s just taking up space. Let me know. I’ll send it. Loaded with obsidian Pat. Thanks so much for the offer. It makes fine garden ornament...
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Post by jamesp on Dec 6, 2017 6:09:00 GMT -5
PatPurchased this 14 pound chunk of rainbow obsidian that should keep the tumbler busy for a while. I believe it comes from Warner Mountains in N.E. California. Maybe you have been there ?
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Post by 1dave on Dec 6, 2017 10:05:32 GMT -5
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Post by Pat on Dec 6, 2017 10:07:01 GMT -5
jamesp that is a beautiful piece! We headed out to Davis Creek in the same area --- on the first day of hunting season! Yikes! Plans changed fast. Started to snow......
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Post by jamesp on Dec 6, 2017 18:22:21 GMT -5
jamesp that is a beautiful piece! We headed out to Davis Creek in the same area --- on the first day of hunting season! Yikes! Plans changed fast. Started to snow...... Sure is beautiful country up there. You guys live in paradise. Hunting season and rock hounds not such a good mix.
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