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Post by grumpybill on Feb 9, 2018 16:07:09 GMT -5
I am also looking at getting a marble making machine. NO idea what is involved, going to research.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 10, 2018 5:50:09 GMT -5
Wow! Now you've inspired me to go find some glass and break it up, LOL! Fair warning, it is tricky to tumble polish. But very easy to put a frost finish on it.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 10, 2018 5:57:14 GMT -5
grumpybillYou can make fancy marbles on a bench with a glass torch one at a time.
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Post by grumpybill on Feb 10, 2018 6:26:50 GMT -5
One at a time? I can't imagine you doing something on such a small scale...
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Post by jamesp on Feb 10, 2018 8:45:57 GMT -5
One at a time? I can't imagine you doing something on such a small scale... How about Jamesonite at 100 per time ? ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4751/25312870707_74f988b4a7_c.jpg) ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4664/40151861442_90635aeb2b_b.jpg) ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4630/25312825547_c081e4d270_b.jpg)
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Post by jamesp on Feb 10, 2018 9:05:12 GMT -5
MrP, note how thin chips for tumbling have a higher percentage clear glass due to 1/4" thickness. ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4720/26312104778_cb62c11a33_b.jpg)
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Post by jamesp on Feb 10, 2018 9:09:21 GMT -5
Yesterday's brick ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4656/39471905394_d80937b525_b.jpg) ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4621/25311519447_dd35b3453b_b.jpg)
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Post by 1dave on Feb 10, 2018 9:33:23 GMT -5
I still think you need to put something like chicken wire under the paper to create deep grooves for easy breakage instead of doing all that sawing.
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Post by fernwood on Feb 10, 2018 10:25:33 GMT -5
There are also kiln friendly molds which will allow for placing glass chips into them for melting. A friend uses this method for making custom beads. Her molds are larger than what she wants the finished product to be. At times she adds clear glass powder to fill the mold. After firing, she still needs to drill holes in the beads, smooth and polish the edges of the holes. Each bead takes about 2 hours of direct labor. She sells them for about $20.00 each. My friend is experimenting with making her own molds, which have top and bottom pieces, plus allow for the stringing hole space. Still perfecting the molds. The ones she purchased do not allow for a hole.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 10, 2018 11:20:41 GMT -5
I still think you need to put something like chicken wire under the paper to create deep grooves for easy breakage instead of doing all that sawing. This glass hammers very well. Looks like the saw may have already been retired for the most part Dave. Hammering is obtuse and not what one would expect, and little waste and cracks. Less than kerf loss using a saw.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 10, 2018 11:28:04 GMT -5
There are also kiln friendly molds which will allow for placing glass chips into them for melting. A friend uses this method for making custom beads. Her molds are larger than what she wants the finished product to be. At times she adds clear glass powder to fill the mold. After firing, she still needs to drill holes in the beads, smooth and polish the edges of the holes. Each bead takes about 2 hours of direct labor. She sells them for about $20.00 each. My friend is experimenting with making her own molds, which have top and bottom pieces, plus allow for the stringing hole space. Still perfecting the molds. The ones she purchased do not allow for a hole. I basically made a brick mould fernwood. Copper wire surround keeps it together. The copper is shot after 3-4 firings. Hope to find a higher temp wire. She probably flame polishes, the drilled holes for instance. Sounds like a labor intensive product and certain they look real nice. I would rather be incarcerated than sitting down drilling holes. People are wanting me to drill these for them. i have not drilled a single one, attitude I suppose. I hope the jeweler will do that task.
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Post by captbob on Feb 10, 2018 11:36:24 GMT -5
How hot does the kiln get? Can ya put metal in there?
Thinking about those old time cast iron corn bread / muffin pans. Lots of different designs & shapes available. Might not make something conducive for glass cabs or pendents, but may end up with some pretty cool end products - like jamesonite paper weights.
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Post by HankRocks on Feb 10, 2018 12:26:32 GMT -5
Forget the Flu, I need to see if there's a vaccine for this "Glass" virus as it seems to be spreading!!
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Post by 1dave on Feb 10, 2018 12:39:45 GMT -5
I basically made a brick mould fernwood . Copper wire surround keeps it together. The copper is shot after 3-4 firings. Hope to find a higher temp wire.She probably flame polishes, the drilled holes for instance. Sounds like a labor intensive product and certain they look real nice. I would rather be incarcerated than sitting down drilling holes. People are wanting me to drill these for them. i have not drilled a single one, attitude I suppose. I hope the jeweler will do that task. Back in the day I used platinum wire and borax to test minerals. Today platinum is a tad pricey so I use thermocouple wire. You might give it a try.
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Post by Wooferhound on Feb 10, 2018 12:55:32 GMT -5
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Post by fernwood on Feb 10, 2018 14:30:09 GMT -5
My friend has a mini kiln, so the molds are small.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 11, 2018 5:54:23 GMT -5
My friend has a mini kiln, so the molds are small. How hot does the kiln get? Can ya put metal in there? Thinking about those old time cast iron corn bread / muffin pans. Lots of different designs & shapes available. Might not make something conducive for glass cabs or pendents, but may end up with some pretty cool end products - like jamesonite paper weights. This kiln goes to 2000F Bob. Some like it go to 2300F. It was purchased this size for making glass bricks that would fit into my 18 inch saw. It has a small 9x9x9 inch box and a bunch of heating coils for such a small space for fusing demanding thick glass bricks at about 1500F. Small and efficient as possible to reduce electrical costs. with needed 1 inch air space around mold 6x6x4 inch blocks is about the limitation. 6x6x4 brick could be face sawn or ground and lap polished into fine book ends. Molds for all kinds of shapes can be purchased. Me just making bricks to hammer into tumbles or cut to slabs. This mold will make a 6x6x2 inch brick. Sawn out of kiln ceramic plate stock and held together w/copper wire: ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4663/25329071937_f773e10e5f_z.jpg)
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Post by jamesp on Feb 11, 2018 6:32:19 GMT -5
After morning coffee I go check my morning brick(not the one in the toilet). This one casted from "Nate the Glass Blower's" scraps. Thanking Nate for making Jamesonite possible. Or "straight out of Nate's glory hole" ha ha for those of you that don't know what a glass blower's glory hole is ! May your imaginations wonder...I am heterosexual by the way and so is Nate judging from his beautiful young wife. Back to business this fine rainy Georgia mourning: Fired starting at 11AM yesterday, still hot 19 hours later: ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4703/39303005415_af8c2d8d48_c.jpg) Mold removed, kiln papers brushed away, a Jamesonite brick !! Do not wash with cold water, too hot and will crack ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4770/40201150031_d672faeef2_c.jpg) Bottom of Jamesonite brick, surface rough. Could have used smooth kiln paper and had a lap able surface. This brick headed for the hammer shop ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4666/26328580528_8738f7f0bb_c.jpg) The future of this poor brick ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4720/25329487877_f0395a8838_c.jpg) Today's melt may come out of "Matt the Glass Blower's) glory hole. A much more conservatively colored scrap glass with high art patterns. And today's job a deeper mold to be constructed yielding say 6x6x3 inch bricks. Next will be a 6x6x4 inch brick mould. Limited by stack height of glass chunks. Estimating each pour to be about $50 worth of fuse-able art glass. That is why I am excited about hauling off their scrap. Me and Chandler going to hook up trailer and go get a serious load Thursday, let the young buck do most of the grunt work.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 11, 2018 6:47:31 GMT -5
The better half wanted blue Jamesonite for yesterday's brick so she picked blue scraps and placed them in the mold. Hammer work by yours truly. Very squirrelly material to hammer into pendant pre-tumbles. ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4653/25329912287_5131af8d02_c.jpg) ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4611/25296506377_9ca2c1fdc0_z.jpg) Close in on blue jamesonite(var. Mattsonite) ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4658/26329201998_ed7518fe8d_z.jpg) Close up of colored jamesonite(var. Natesonite) ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4724/39490344904_cac4556c2d_z.jpg) A few more, natesonite's ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4770/25330399797_e0042f5215_z.jpg) ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4694/39490513934_741a317f1e_z.jpg) ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4720/28422116679_a1a8654746_z.jpg) Both natesonite and mattsonite brick chips could be loaded into the mold again and re-melted for a confetti effect. combinations and permutations never seize.
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Post by MrP on Feb 11, 2018 8:40:02 GMT -5
James what model # is your kiln?....................................MrP
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