pizzano
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Post by pizzano on Jul 7, 2018 10:14:37 GMT -5
Utah TurquoiseThere was a LOT of turquoise found in the Kennecott Bingham Canyon Mine west of Salt Lake City Utah, but along with many other valuable minerals and crystals, most of it went into the crushers for the tiny bit of copper it contained. www.durangosilver.com/utahturquoisemines.htm Utah Salt Lake Co. Oquirrh Mts Bingham District (West Mountain District) ⓘ Bingham Canyon Mine (Bingham Canyon deposit; Kennecott Mine; Bingham Copper Mine; Utah Copper Mine) UGMS Bull 117 Minerals and Mineral Localities of Utah Tooele Co. Sheeprock Mts East Erickson District ⓘ Copper Jack Mine UGMS Bull 117 Minerals and Mineral Localities of Utah; U.S. Geological Survey, 2005, Mineral Resources Data System: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston, Virginia. ⓘ Flying Dutchman Mine (Silver Shield) U.S. Geological Survey, 2005, Mineral Resources Data System: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston, Virginia. ⓘ Jessel Bezzel Mine UGMS Bull 117 Minerals and Mineral Localities of Utah I'll be in that part of Utah next weekend (Riverton)........seems it's copper mined now.......would it be worth taking a day trip to the area, visit the tailings storage facility with permission.........what should I keep my eyes open for.....I realize Turquoise will be non-existent........even Variscite will be rare....?
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Post by 1dave on Jul 7, 2018 10:22:43 GMT -5
I'll be in that part of Utah next weekend (Riverton)........seems it's copper mined now.......would it be worth taking a day trip to the area, visit the tailings storage facility with permission.........what should I keep my eyes open for.....I realize Turquoise will be non-existent........even Variscite will be rare....? If you are thinking Bingham Canyon, Good Luck! I haven't been there in 40 years, but Government Requirements are to make the area look just as it did millions of years ago - top soil, Ginko Biloba Trees, Dinosaurs, etc.
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Post by fernwood on Jul 7, 2018 10:42:33 GMT -5
1dave Thank you, thank you, thank you! For preserving this valuable information. Do you have any insights why there is no documented Turquoise in WI? An abundance of Copper here. Lots of silica sand and water. After an educational experience from your posts, should seem that it would be present. Is it due to the lower earth plates not being conducive? I am still thinking that some Turquoise must have been found at the Flambeau mine, based on the other minerals/rocks found there.
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Post by 1dave on Jul 7, 2018 11:12:40 GMT -5
1dave Thank you, thank you, thank you! For preserving this valuable information. Do you have any insights why there is no documented Turquoise in WI? An abundance of Copper here. Lots of silica sand and water. After an educational experience from your posts, should seem that it would be present. Is it due to the lower earth plates not being conducive? I am still thinking that some Turquoise must have been found at the Flambeau mine, based on the other minerals/rocks found there. Hard to say. Not paying attention? No phosphorus? Stupid Greed? At Bingham Canyon the mine owners had millions of dollars worth of valuable minerals crushed for the Pennies worth of copper they contained.
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Post by pizzano on Jul 7, 2018 12:28:07 GMT -5
Thank You Dave.......
From what my son is telling me now, most of the Bingham Canyon area is a waste of time since the visitor center has been closed due to land slides (unless your into serious mtn. biking excursions and I mean "serious")......something my son is into, that's how he knows about the area. The two main roads (paved and dirt) accessing the surrounding area are not a pleasant experience to drive, even with off road capability.......narrow and not well maintained.
The lower creek trail heads (which is what I was considering) traverse through fence lines and private property encampments, much of which has become estate development (that of which has not been purchased by the mining company or Gov't regulated).........I was considering the mines tailing storage facility, but my boy tells me it is a secured facility and they do not permit casual hounders or allow visitor access. Evidently that facility also acts a processing plant for bi-product transfer sold to other private merchants...........it's all about $$ now.
Just as well.......I'll save my energy for more favorable Jasper sites we have frequented in the past.
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Post by NRG on Jul 16, 2018 12:25:28 GMT -5
1dave Thank you, thank you, thank you! For preserving this valuable information. Do you have any insights why there is no documented Turquoise in WI? An abundance of Copper here. Lots of silica sand and water. After an educational experience from your posts, should seem that it would be present. Is it due to the lower earth plates not being conducive? I am still thinking that some Turquoise must have been found at the Flambeau mine, based on the other minerals/rocks found there. Hard to say. Not paying attention? No phosphorus? Stupid Greed? At Bingham Canyon the mine owners had millions of dollars worth of valuable minerals crushed for the Pennies worth of copper they contained. Turquoise is a secondary mineral that has been found to only form in dry desert habitats. Likely if some form in previous dry habitat that changed to wet, it was changed again by the water to something else yet again.
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Post by 1dave on Jul 17, 2018 10:46:43 GMT -5
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Post by 1dave on Jul 19, 2018 6:02:45 GMT -5
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Post by melhill1659 on Sept 8, 2018 20:45:15 GMT -5
Thank You Dave so much for all the time you’ve put in to these post Love Ya!!! I enjoy reading your post with notebook and pen in hand!!! Maybe I’ll find my own turquoise deposit one day 😉
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 9, 2018 14:07:49 GMT -5
My one stop spot for all the information I need. Goodness! I think you have outdone yourself..... AGAIN!
ETA- This is a new and worthy sticky!
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Post by stephan on Oct 13, 2018 23:09:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. An amazing amount of research and work.
I like turquoise, but haven't gotten too much into working it, since the low quality stuff is disappointing, and most of what I've seen for sale appears to be fake (Tidy-Bowl turquoise, aka dyed howelite), whereas the high-quality, genuine stuff is a bit pricey. Anything where you're paying by the gram hurts when you are shaping the cab, especially if you make an oops (not that I don't have a few little pieces of Tiffany Stone squirreled away, that I'll work EVENTUALLY -- but that was part of the estate sale where I also got the PJ, where our shop steward and I just bought for a few hundred everything and split it).
But, getting back on track to your post, I gotta say -- that odontolite is beyond cool. Especially the skull. Absolutely wicked stuff. I would be sorely tempted by a specimen of that. Dangerous territory. Since I want to be able to continue feeding the family, I'll have to stay away from that.
thanks for the eye-candy.
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Post by plumberinaz on Oct 14, 2018 0:11:28 GMT -5
Wow! Thanks for all the info on turquoise!!
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Post by 1dave on Mar 29, 2019 21:41:33 GMT -5
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Post by cosmetal on Mar 30, 2019 12:10:48 GMT -5
Very informative thread, 1dave . . .
My dad and his four brothers worked at the Copper Queen mine in Bisbee, AZ while going through high school. My grandfather (their father) was the Superintendent. Hence, the nepotism.
He was a "mucker" and his job was to get rid of the "muck" after they blasted. He said that some of this "muck" was heavy duty turquoise. They would bring the larger pieces home to my grandmother who would use them as door stops for their screen doors.
Thanks! James
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Post by 1dave on May 23, 2019 8:35:18 GMT -5
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