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Post by miket on Jan 9, 2019 15:51:14 GMT -5
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Post by MsAli on Jan 9, 2019 15:55:48 GMT -5
Are you using your stock camera on your phone?
The 1st one looks like it has a cold sore
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Post by manofglass on Jan 9, 2019 16:01:27 GMT -5
You did ok mike they look good
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Post by miket on Jan 9, 2019 17:29:19 GMT -5
Are you using your stock camera on your phone? The 1st one looks like it has a cold sore No ma'am it was actually with my Canon and closeup filters I think the stock camera on my phone would have probably done a better job on some of them but I need to learn how to use the camera It kind of does Poor rock |
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Post by miket on Jan 9, 2019 17:29:48 GMT -5
You did ok mike they look good Thank you Walt |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 9, 2019 17:34:14 GMT -5
I think they look good, too. Which lens are you using? - Not that I know a whole lot about lenses. What you are experiencing with focus is called depth of field. You can look it up and here is a link digital-photography-school.com/understanding-depth-field-beginners/ A lot of people find it very desirable for certain applications. I don't think it hurts your pics as long as the main focus is on what you want it to be on. |
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Post by miket on Jan 9, 2019 17:49:26 GMT -5
I think they look good, too. Which lens are you using? - Not that I know a whole lot about lenses. What you are experiencing with focus is called depth of field. You can look it up and here is a link digital-photography-school.com/understanding-depth-field-beginners/ A lot of people find it very desirable for certain applications. I don't think it hurts your pics as long as the main focus is on what you want it to be on. Thanks. I used the stock 18-55mm lens with four closeup filters screwed on the lens. I'll read your link, a few people are trying to help me and I've read a ton and watched some videos. Trouble is that I have to remember what I've learned, I just need to do it more often so it sinks into my head I think. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 9, 2019 18:04:57 GMT -5
I think they look good, too. Which lens are you using? - Not that I know a whole lot about lenses. What you are experiencing with focus is called depth of field. You can look it up and here is a link digital-photography-school.com/understanding-depth-field-beginners/ A lot of people find it very desirable for certain applications. I don't think it hurts your pics as long as the main focus is on what you want it to be on. Thanks. I used the stock 18-55mm lens with four closeup filters screwed on the lens. I'll read your link, a few people are trying to help me and I've read a ton and watched some videos. Trouble is that I have to remember what I've learned, I just need to do it more often so it sinks into my head I think. I haven't followed every thread, so if you said the camera you have, I missed it. Almost all digital cameras now have a macro setting. You shouldn't need filters. My apologies if you have gone over this before.  |
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Post by miket on Jan 9, 2019 18:09:18 GMT -5
Oh, no apologies needed. It's a Canon Rebel t6 and as others have told me ( woodman manofglass ), I shouldn't need the filters. They get better pics, however. I think they've been doing it a bit longer. It does have a macro setting but I can't seem to do good closeups yet. I'm studying, I'm studying. Well, in between work, hounding, cutting and tumbling. |
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Post by MsAli on Jan 9, 2019 18:14:30 GMT -5
Are you using your stock camera on your phone? The 1st one looks like it has a cold sore No ma'am it was actually with my Canon and closeup filters I think the stock camera on my phone would have probably done a better job on some of them but I need to learn how to use the camera It kind of does Poor rock He has been kissing some of johnw rocks  |
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Post by woodman on Jan 9, 2019 18:39:11 GMT -5
Getting better, like rockjunquie says, study up on depth of field, tripod helps and lots of light. it is fun to play with. I got some coming for my canon T1i to try with my 18-55 lens. Don't need them but I like to play! Keep at it.
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Post by woodman on Jan 9, 2019 18:51:46 GMT -5
Both of these were taken with my canon T1i, mounted on a tripod under fluorescent lights . you can see the difference depth of field makes. the one that the focus is better was taken at f18 iso 800 .4 second. the one with shallow dept of field was taken at F5.6 iso 800 .3 second shutter speed. Those stones should tumble up real nice!   |
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Post by aDave on Jan 9, 2019 19:07:07 GMT -5
I think they look good, too. Which lens are you using? - Not that I know a whole lot about lenses. What you are experiencing with focus is called depth of field. You can look it up and here is a link digital-photography-school.com/understanding-depth-field-beginners/ A lot of people find it very desirable for certain applications. I don't think it hurts your pics as long as the main focus is on what you want it to be on. , Tela makes a good point about depth of field (DoF). In some cases, that's what you're dealing with, or so it appears. In other photos, however, it appears your camera focused on the "wrong" part of the rock, where other points might have actually been something you were trying to highlight. I have not yet looked at Tela's link, but just a few points to throw out: Your DoF will increase (become "deeper) the smaller your aperture is set for. Problem is, that reduces your exposure and slows your shutter speed. That is where you're tripod will come into play. You can overcome the slower shutter speed by increasing the ISO setting on your camera. Most often, since I don't have outstanding lighting, I'll set my ISO to about 1800-2000 which allows me to shoot at an aperture of about f11 with the shutter speed being (maybe) 1/40 second or so. Just remember, when you start getting that high in ISO settings, you may start to develop "noise" in your photos, and your tight shots may not be that sharp. Look in your camera settings to see if you have a tool for "high ISO noise reduction" and select that. If you're shooting in automatic (or the green box) mode on your camera, you won't have any control of aperture or shutter speed as the camera will adjust both. Start shooting in aperture priority (Av) so you can set the aperture manually. The camera will then select the shutter speed. As to focus issues, you may want to change from the multi-sensor focus mode to the center-weighted focus mode, where only the center rectangle in the diamond in your viewfinder is selecting the focus point. When I'm out and about using my camera, I'll use multi-sensor. When I shoot rocks, I select the center box as the focus sensor. If you try to shoot rocks in the multi-mode, the wrong focus sensors may active which results in the wrong part of the rock being in focus. Hope this helps some. ETA: Just when you think you're getting your arms around this, we'll throw exposure compensation at you.  |
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Post by miket on Jan 10, 2019 10:32:41 GMT -5
No ma'am it was actually with my Canon and closeup filters I think the stock camera on my phone would have probably done a better job on some of them but I need to learn how to use the camera It kind of does Poor rock He has been kissing some of johnw rocks   |
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Post by miket on Jan 10, 2019 10:37:18 GMT -5
I think they look good, too. Which lens are you using? - Not that I know a whole lot about lenses. What you are experiencing with focus is called depth of field. You can look it up and here is a link digital-photography-school.com/understanding-depth-field-beginners/ A lot of people find it very desirable for certain applications. I don't think it hurts your pics as long as the main focus is on what you want it to be on. , Tela makes a good point about depth of field (DoF). In some cases, that's what you're dealing with, or so it appears. In other photos, however, it appears your camera focused on the "wrong" part of the rock, where other points might have actually been something you were trying to highlight. I have not yet looked at Tela's link, but just a few points to throw out: Your DoF will increase (become "deeper) the smaller your aperture is set for. Problem is, that reduces your exposure and slows your shutter speed. That is where you're tripod will come into play. You can overcome the slower shutter speed by increasing the ISO setting on your camera. Most often, since I don't have outstanding lighting, I'll set my ISO to about 1800-2000 which allows me to shoot at an aperture of about f11 with the shutter speed being (maybe) 1/40 second or so. Just remember, when you start getting that high in ISO settings, you may start to develop "noise" in your photos, and your tight shots may not be that sharp. Look in your camera settings to see if you have a tool for "high ISO noise reduction" and select that. If you're shooting in automatic (or the green box) mode on your camera, you won't have any control of aperture or shutter speed as the camera will adjust both. Start shooting in aperture priority (Av) so you can set the aperture manually. The camera will then select the shutter speed. As to focus issues, you may want to change from the multi-sensor focus mode to the center-weighted focus mode, where only the center rectangle in the diamond in your viewfinder is selecting the focus point. When I'm out and about using my camera, I'll use multi-sensor. When I shoot rocks, I select the center box as the focus sensor. If you try to shoot rocks in the multi-mode, the wrong focus sensors may active which results in the wrong part of the rock being in focus. Hope this helps some. ETA: Just when you think you're getting your arms around this, we'll throw exposure compensation at you. Thank you, I'll gladly take any and all tips that I can get. I've tried automatic, macro, manual- pretty much every setting. I guess I just need to play with it more and get used to it. |
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Post by woodman on Jan 10, 2019 10:55:12 GMT -5
One thing that I have not mentioned is that I take all my photos in the highest quality setting. That way when I crop, I can zoom in as far as I need to without the photo losing sharpness. They are large photos but can be resized later for posing here. I tried taking some in the low quality setting for posting on here and they all lacked the detail that I wanted.
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Post by miket on Jan 10, 2019 11:12:28 GMT -5
One thing that I have not mentioned is that I take all my photos in the highest quality setting. That way when I crop, I can zoom in as far as I need to without the photo losing sharpness. They are large photos but can be resized later for posing here. I tried taking some in the low quality setting for posting on here and they all lacked the detail that I wanted. Yep, I take them all at high quality. As you probably know, with the T6 you can download the pics to your phone wirelessly. It gives you the option of reduced or original size. The last pics I posted I left at original size, then cropped and resized on a pc. I think it made a difference- once I get the actual process of taking better photos dialed in.  |
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Post by fernwood on Jan 10, 2019 14:36:29 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing the photos. Nice ones.
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Post by miket on Jan 10, 2019 15:23:23 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing the photos. Nice ones. Thank you. Hope you're feeling better! |
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Post by stephan on Jan 18, 2019 23:40:14 GMT -5
Thanks. I used the stock 18-55mm lens with four closeup filters screwed on the lens. I'll read your link, a few people are trying to help me and I've read a ton and watched some videos. Trouble is that I have to remember what I've learned, I just need to do it more often so it sinks into my head I think. I haven't followed every thread, so if you said the camera you have, I missed it. Almost all digital cameras now have a macro setting. You shouldn't need filters. My apologies if you have gone over this before. I had a T6 for a while, and TBH, I was not thrilled with the close-up pictures on that model (or long-distance ones, for that matter). I think Canon cut some corners with that model to bring down the price. I liked my previous camera (the T4i) better, but I wore out the shutter release on that one.
So, for this model, it looks like the filters are helping.
I'm now using a Nikon, which doesn't even have a macro mode (friggin' snobs), so I'm learning to control DOF with the F-Stop. Old school.
Anyway, nice agates. Pretty good pics. You may be pretty close to what that camera can accomplish without buying an actual macro lens ($). I haven't done that yet (again, $), and it may not even be worth it until you upgrade the camera.
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