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Post by parfive on Mar 25, 2019 12:30:27 GMT -5
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Fossilman
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Post by Fossilman on Mar 25, 2019 15:35:18 GMT -5
They need better verification for the word "fossil".... Dinosaur, or invertebrae fossils.. I hound in Montana a lot, if a Dino is found, we turn it in to the state. If just pieces we claim it, if the landowner doesn't want it... The same goes for invertebrate sea Fossils.. Land owner gets first chance at it or gets to pick what they want, the rest is ours to keep. Never did want anything to do with a complete or parcel dino... Let the state and landowner sort it out.. I stay out of that mess!!
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Post by parfive on Nov 9, 2019 23:36:40 GMT -5
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Post by grumpybill on Dec 4, 2019 15:06:14 GMT -5
Has the State Supreme Court ruled on this yet?
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Post by parfive on Dec 4, 2019 15:25:11 GMT -5
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Post by parfive on Jun 23, 2020 14:22:50 GMT -5
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EricD
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Post by EricD on Jun 23, 2020 18:43:22 GMT -5
As it should be
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 23, 2020 18:57:05 GMT -5
Definitely. My land, my dinosaur. Old bones are not minerals in the general sense of the word.
I've never understood why the rich dudes hire lawyers and go after the little guys. (I know, because they can.) Those bone hunters are usually living paycheck to paycheck.
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EricD
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Post by EricD on Jun 23, 2020 19:04:04 GMT -5
Why even have mineral rights separate from land ownership? How about your ownership follows a V to the core of the planet? Same goes for water rights IMO
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Post by Pat on Jun 23, 2020 23:21:34 GMT -5
Why even have mineral rights separate from land ownership? How about your ownership follows a V to the core of the planet? Same goes for water rights IMO Yep, agree. Everything under me is mine.
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Post by grumpybill on Jun 27, 2020 16:08:16 GMT -5
Why even have mineral rights separate from land ownership? How about your ownership follows a V to the core of the planet? Same goes for water rights IMO I own the rights to anything under my land. However, I can sell or lease those rights to someone else. It does me no good to own oil, gas or coal if I can't afford to extract it. The problem arises when I sell that land and the next property owner is bound by the sales or lease agreement I signed.
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EricD
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Post by EricD on Jun 27, 2020 16:10:29 GMT -5
Why even have mineral rights separate from land ownership? How about your ownership follows a V to the core of the planet? Same goes for water rights IMO In my state I own the rights to anything under my land. However, I can sell or lease those rights to someone else. It does me no good to own oil, gas or coal if I can't afford to extract it. The problem arises when I sell that land and the next property owner is bound by the sales or lease agreement I signed. Yup. Making the land worth a lot less, depending on it's size
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Post by grumpybill on Jun 27, 2020 16:33:03 GMT -5
Yup. Making the land worth a lot less, depending on it's size If royalties are sill being paid, the land could be worth more than it was before the minerals were discovered.
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Fossilman
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 29, 2020 11:46:02 GMT -5
Been watching that new Dino show on TV and looks like the land owners in SD, Montana and Wyoming get to keep their finds on their land and sell to whom ever wants to buy.... Now the Indian Res. that's a complete different story! Ask the Larson Brothers about that mess!
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Post by parfive on Nov 18, 2020 2:20:09 GMT -5
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 18, 2020 8:27:44 GMT -5
Been watching that new Dino show on TV and looks like the land owners in SD, Montana and Wyoming get to keep their finds on their land and sell to whom ever wants to buy.... Now the Indian Res. that's a complete different story! Ask the Larson Brothers about that mess! My wife and I both LOVE that show Dino Hunters! These particular particular fossils were mentioned several times. I'm glad to see they were sold, then donated.
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Post by stephan on Nov 18, 2020 10:55:31 GMT -5
Why even have mineral rights separate from land ownership? How about your ownership follows a V to the core of the planet? Same goes for water rights IMO Yep, agree. Everything under me is mine. That's not what my mortgage paperwork said. It only extended to a certain depth. Of course, suburbia and owning a farm/ranch could very well have different depths. Neighbors might not want an oil well.
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Post by grumpybill on Nov 19, 2020 8:37:05 GMT -5
Of course, suburbia and owning a farm/ranch could very well have different depths. Neighbors might not want an oil well. I live in a suburban area above a large shale gas play. The natural gas is accessed via horizontal drilling. and the well heads are located a mile or so away in farm land. I wish an energy company was interested in drilling under my property.
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Post by parfive on Nov 23, 2022 18:09:26 GMT -5
Stan the T-rex may have ended up in Abu Dhabi Doo for $31.8 million but his intellectual property rights didn’t. They still reside back in Hill City, South Dakota where polyurethane Stan could be all yours for a paltry $120K. As Dinosaur Fossils Fetch Millions, There’s Many a Bone to Pick Fossils are a multimillion-dollar business, bringing legal disputes, nondisclosure agreements and trademarks to the world of paleontology. www.nytimes.com/2022/11/23/arts/design/dinosaur-bones-market-auction.html
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Post by parfive on Nov 29, 2023 13:12:57 GMT -5
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