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Post by miket on Nov 21, 2019 10:38:47 GMT -5
I love this stone that I got from rockjunquie . I like the wrap. But I think I failed on the bail- I didn't leave enough wire to do what I had in mind. Decisions, decisions... Thanks for looking!   |
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 21, 2019 10:40:03 GMT -5
If a cord or chain will fit through the bail, then it's fine. I like it.
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Post by miket on Nov 21, 2019 10:44:57 GMT -5
If a cord or chain will fit through the bail, then it's fine. I like it. Thanks. It will fit, but the front is just messy looking. But the stone is so gorgeous I'm not sure I did it justice. I've never really been much of a perfectionist- I think this hobby is changing me!  |
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 21, 2019 10:48:48 GMT -5
If a cord or chain will fit through the bail, then it's fine. I like it. Thanks. It will fit, but the front is just messy looking. But the stone is so gorgeous I'm not sure I did it justice. I've never really been much of a perfectionist- I think this hobby is changing me!  It does pay to pay attention to details, that's for sure. I think the wrap looks pretty good, though. We are all our own worse critics. |
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Post by fernwood on Nov 21, 2019 14:11:42 GMT -5
I like the simple bail.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 21, 2019 18:00:33 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to agree with you here, miket. I think the front is a little messy, too. If it were me, I'd take it apart and start over. I have a whole ziploc bad full of I don't like how I did that wire. Save the wire with your scrap and move on. It is a beautiful stone and if you're not happy with how the wrap turned out, change it.
I always over estimate how much wire I need because I hate being caught short. It's a little wasteful, but you pop those odd bits in the scrap bag, too and turn them in when you have a enough to get more wire.
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Post by miket on Nov 21, 2019 19:01:12 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to agree with you here, miket . I think the front is a little messy, too. If it were me, I'd take it apart and start over. I have a whole ziploc bad full of I don't like how I did that wire. Save the wire with your scrap and move on. It is a beautiful stone and if you're not happy with how the wrap turned out, change it.
I always over estimate how much wire I need because I hate being caught short. It's a little wasteful, but you pop those odd bits in the scrap bag, too and turn them in when you have a enough to get more wire.
I think I am going to do it again. I'm just not satisfied with the way it is now. Thanks! |
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 21, 2019 19:21:21 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to agree with you here, miket . I think the front is a little messy, too. If it were me, I'd take it apart and start over. I have a whole ziploc bad full of I don't like how I did that wire. Save the wire with your scrap and move on. It is a beautiful stone and if you're not happy with how the wrap turned out, change it.
I always over estimate how much wire I need because I hate being caught short. It's a little wasteful, but you pop those odd bits in the scrap bag, too and turn them in when you have a enough to get more wire.
I think I am going to do it again. I'm just not satisfied with the way it is now. Thanks! Good for you! You gotta listen to what the little voice is telling you. Next time cut a little more wire to use. 
I generally take a piece of tape around the perimeter of the cab, lay it down on a piece of paper and give myself about 2- 2 1/2 inches on each end for the bail and/or extras. I may not need all of it but if I do, I have it.
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Post by miket on Nov 21, 2019 19:24:03 GMT -5
I think I am going to do it again. I'm just not satisfied with the way it is now. Thanks! Good for you! You gotta listen to what the little voice is telling you. Next time cut a little more wire to use.
I generally take a piece of tape around the perimeter of the cab, lay it down on a piece of paper and give myself about 2- 2 1/2 inches on each end for the bail and/or extras. I may not need all of it but if I do, I have it.
Another lesson learned! Thanks for the trick I may try that... |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 21, 2019 20:35:33 GMT -5
I use 3" additional on each side.  |
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Post by miket on Nov 21, 2019 20:50:26 GMT -5
I use 3" additional on each side. The cab is about an inch high... |
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 21, 2019 21:09:38 GMT -5
I use 3" additional on each side. The cab is about an inch high... The additional amount is for the bail, so the height of the stone is less important. Except if you have a big stone, you may want a bigger bail. |
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Post by miket on Nov 21, 2019 22:03:29 GMT -5
The cab is about an inch high... The additional amount is for the bail, so the height of the stone is less important. Except if you have a big stone, you may want a bigger bail. Ok, thanks. One last question- I know two different colors of wire isn't your style, but I'm thinking of switching to gold instead of copper for this one. Any thoughts? |
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 22, 2019 6:44:40 GMT -5
The additional amount is for the bail, so the height of the stone is less important. Except if you have a big stone, you may want a bigger bail. Ok, thanks. One last question- I know two different colors of wire isn't your style, but I'm thinking of switching to gold instead of copper for this one. Any thoughts? You're the artist.  Go for it. |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 22, 2019 7:56:45 GMT -5
I use 3" additional on each side. The cab is about an inch high... What Tela said. I use 3" only because I almost always do a woven bail and I like to make them a little bigger to fit a bit thicker chain with a bigger clasp in case someone has one of those. You'll figure out how much wire you're comfortable with with experience.
I like the copper with this stone. It complements the color in between the breccia, at least in the picture on my computer.
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 22, 2019 8:04:38 GMT -5
The cab is about an inch high... What Tela said. I use 3" only because I almost always do a woven bail and I like to make them a little bigger to fit a bit thicker chain with a bigger clasp in case someone has one of those. You'll figure out how much wire you're comfortable with with experience.
I like the copper with this stone. It complements the color in between the breccia, at least in the picture on my computer.
True, if you want a bigger or fancier bail, you'll need more wire. I was just saying for a simple wrap. Also, if you want to add other elements, you'll need more wire. But yeah, agreed, 2-3 inches on each end sounds about right. |
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Post by NevadaBill on Nov 22, 2019 11:24:34 GMT -5
Nice looking wrap Mike. The stone is amazing, but the wrap really compliments it very well. I can tell that a lot of work went in to this one. And the bail is really nice looking!
[edit] I had no idea the stone was so small (1 " only). In that case, this is a fantastic job wrapping it. Really well done. Those small ones are the hardest by far.
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Post by miket on Nov 22, 2019 13:20:03 GMT -5
Nice looking wrap Mike. The stone is amazing, but the wrap really compliments it very well. I can tell that a lot of work went in to this one. And the bail is really nice looking!
[edit] I had no idea the stone was so small (1 " only). In that case, this is a fantastic job wrapping it. Really well done. Those small ones are the hardest by far.
Thanks for the compliment, Bill. I tore it apart this morning, hopefully I'll get time to wrap it again this afternoon. I just didn't like how it looked in front of the bail. |
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Post by miket on Nov 25, 2019 17:44:39 GMT -5
So, here's the redo. Better, worse, the same? I think I like it better...  |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 25, 2019 19:24:37 GMT -5
Much better! It is now a very classy looking wrap. Excellent re-do!
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Go for it.
