lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 21, 2020 5:39:03 GMT -5
Photo #16 ROYGBIV Red - Red Jasper Orange - Tiger Jasper Yellow - Yellow Chert Green - African Green Opal Blue - Sodalite Indigo - Iolite (low light exposure) Violet - Amethyst Note: Snake in photo is a Blue-Eyed Leucistic. She is the same one that was hatched in the video linked to the female in Photo# 5.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Aug 21, 2020 8:40:41 GMT -5
Nice tumbles and a cute baby. What could be better?
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lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 23, 2020 5:57:41 GMT -5
This material from SA has many names...I will stick with South African Jade. Photo #17 Note: Polish on these is odd-in that it feels 'greasy' instead of smooth. Apparently that is a trait of this material.
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kyoti
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Post by kyoti on Aug 23, 2020 18:12:56 GMT -5
Those granite tumbles are very cool. I used to have family in Waltham and Manchester. I loved to go looking at all the great granite up there. It's funny, I always grew up thinking snakes were pretty mean. Far too many water moccasins where I grew up. I had no idea that reptiles had unique personalities. During the lockdown, I got a chance to know several of the broad nosed skinks that live in my backyard. They get quite large. About 12 or so inched. One of them used to come sunbathe next to my leg. He's a character! I named him Verne.
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lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 24, 2020 7:10:54 GMT -5
Those granite tumbles are very cool. I used to have family in Waltham and Manchester. I loved to go looking at all the great granite up there. It's funny, I always grew up thinking snakes were pretty mean. Far too many water moccasins where I grew up. I had no idea that reptiles had unique personalities. During the lockdown, I got a chance to know several of the broad nosed skinks that live in my backyard. They get quite large. About 12 or so inched. One of them used to come sunbathe next to my leg. He's a character! I named him Verne. Reptile intelligence and disposition...I've seen a wide range. Since reptiles are distantly related to birds it is no surprise that certain species have significantly more going on upstairs.... Yes, there is some variability in the granite in the general area--it is interesting to tumble even if one can't expect a mirror polish on all of them. I've been visiting some of the local man-made reservoirs in the area (primarily made from granite) and I have been collecting some random pieces left over from their construction (Photo# 18 below). Photo# 18 As I mentioned previously these rocks cannot compare to some stuff I picked up in NH ('The Granite State'). Normally my gf gives me about 10 minutes to search an area (her reasoning-'You have enough in the garage to tumble for years'), but, it was a nice day and she was preoccupied making rock towers so I was able to find some neat stuff to add to the pile.
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Post by Bob on Aug 24, 2020 16:17:23 GMT -5
So nice the combo of rocks and snakes. I think you are a rather skilled photographer. Former herpetologist here, though not into herpetoculture or other than native coloration. Bob Clark and I went to herp grad school in same era, if you know what what he is doing with certain color morphs in mostly retics.
Some of our native species look like rocks to begin with, especially many of our native viperids. You've caused me to think of certain photo ops that might exist with say a western diamondback along side certain repeating rocks with patterns that matched the snake...
I've been a field herper pretty seriously for almost 50 years. When I took up this rock hobby in 2014, it was so weird to be looking for non-living objects in the outdoors when before that was always looking for living things. But since I had so much experience looking for patterns in nature, especially on the ground, finding rocks to tumble is pretty easy. And of course the snakes are still there too! Sometimes find both at once.
Got nailed hard by a ball python in grad school--just once was enough--never trusted that guy again. Amazing how fast they can be when in the mood to teach someone a lesson.
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lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 24, 2020 17:44:17 GMT -5
Thank you for the compliment on the photos. I'm improving over time. I do have an odd sort of artistic block at the moment where I have piles of polished rocks, but, I can't figure how to take a nice photo with a particular ball python or set of rocks...the color schemes may seem good in my head, but, look terrible in effect. E.g. A bright yellow and black ball python surrounded by large pieces of dark blue sodalite seems like a sure-fire thing...in effect: a visual embolism... I never met Bob Clark...or at least I don't recall having met him-I know he is a big name in python breeding, but, it is a small world. I keep my anonymity as best I can--the snake breeding community is not beyond drama between big name breeders---at times this insanity is not far akin to an episode of 'Tiger King'...gets me thinking if I should approach Netflix with a series pitch... As for getting bitten by a ball python--it happens...hatchlings are very nippy and hungry adults can sometimes mistake hands for food. My friends with cobras mock me for using 2 foot long tongs to feed my ball pythons...ahh well...whatever...
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Post by jasoninsd on Aug 24, 2020 18:33:49 GMT -5
I've missed out on several pictures here recently! I'd say my favorite of the recent ones has to be the "rainbow" pic!
I just saw your new avatar also! I thought my pain meds were tripping me out at first! LOL
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 24, 2020 19:10:04 GMT -5
I've missed out on several pictures here recently! I'd say my favorite of the recent ones has to be the "rainbow" pic! I just saw your new avatar also! I thought my pain meds were tripping me out at first! LOL Thanks! I like the rainbow picture, but, my eyes can't stand the odd effect that the Iolite has with the camera where the flash reflects internal imperfections in the stone. I have the same issue photographing garnets as well. I did manage to get a cool photo of a piece of iolite with a direct hit from my camera flash (looks like a lightning bolt inside the stone), but, that is a photo for another time... I haven't changed my avatar image, the wave movement is pretty subtle, the image itself is a little small...I should really upscale the .gif file based on my original since the Rock Tumbling Forum allows greater pixels for avatar pics than other forums I use (on occasion).
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Post by jasoninsd on Aug 24, 2020 19:29:09 GMT -5
I've missed out on several pictures here recently! I'd say my favorite of the recent ones has to be the "rainbow" pic! I just saw your new avatar also! I thought my pain meds were tripping me out at first! LOL Thanks! I like the rainbow picture, but, my eyes can't stand the odd effect that the Iolite has with the camera where the flash reflects internal imperfections in the stone. I have the same issue photographing garnets as well. I did manage to get a cool photo of a piece of iolite with a direct hit from my camera flash (looks like a lightning bolt inside the stone), but, that is a photo for another time... I haven't changed my avatar image, the wave movement is pretty subtle, the image itself is a little small...I should really upscale the .gif file based on my original since the Rock Tumbling Forum allows greater pixels for avatar pics than other forums I use (on occasion). Oooh...I'm picking up on the teaser for the iolite pic! I'll be keeping an eye out for that one! As far as you not changing your avatar...maybe the pain meds are doing better than I thought! LOL
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Post by MsAli on Aug 24, 2020 20:04:36 GMT -5
I'm really loving the snakes and of course the rocks.
Is the 1st one is absolutely amazing. Is it a Banana? the leutistic is stunning.
Making me want one
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 25, 2020 1:29:30 GMT -5
I'm really loving the snakes and of course the rocks. Is the 1st one is absolutely amazing. Is it a Banana? the leutistic is stunning. Making me want one Thanks! Yes, the snake in the first photo is a Banana variant: Hypomelanistic Banana Pastel Blue-Eyed Leucistic ball pythons are very popular in the pet trade. There are many gene combinations that can be used to make them--depending upon the genes used you get a varying level of yellowing/grey color or dorsal stripe as they get older. I used two copies of a 'Lesser' gene (aka Super Lesser) to produce the one in the photo. Super Lessers are considered to be the 'whitest' blue-eyed ball python. Even though they are relatively simple to make: some breeders have run into issues where they have produced Super Lessers with deformed eyes--so they are generally avoided. I have had no issue with any I have produced in the past...though my collection is large enough where I can avoid inbreeding closely related specimens.
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lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 25, 2020 1:31:24 GMT -5
As far as you not changing your avatar...maybe the pain meds are doing better than I thought! LOL Hahaha, What are the pain meds for (if you don't mind me asking)? Nothing serious I hope!
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Post by Bob on Aug 25, 2020 9:35:30 GMT -5
Funny how Bob Clark and I were both working on our masters in herpetology at the very same time, in adjacent states, but didn't know each other. He was at Kansas State at Lawrence, and I was at Oklahoma State in Norman. His major professor was the last great field man in Kansas still working, now deceased, Henry Fitch. Mine was the greatest field man in Oklahoma, now deceased, Charles Carpenter. Carpenter and Fitch were best friends, and Bob and I were probably in same room together several times, but didn't meet until later in life. Bob and I have been trying to plan some outings together, probably in Asia, but I've been very busy with a divorce now ended and he is really consumed by his business. He's in Okla City and I'm in Stillwater just a bit more than an hour away. Going to his operation is pretty mind blowing--big snakes of many different color morphs. We are soon going to get together over some cervezas and catch up on old times.
Do you use a light box or what for your photo setups? I've been thinking about trying to photograph some finished rocks, but my first attempts with just a camera on a tripod produced terrible results, especially with colors.
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Post by knave on Aug 25, 2020 10:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 25, 2020 11:02:57 GMT -5
Funny how Bob Clark and I were both working on our masters in herpetology at the very same time, in adjacent states...Going to his operation is pretty mind blowing--big snakes of many different color morphs. We are soon going to get together over some cervezas and catch up on old times. Do you use a light box or what for your photo setups? I've been thinking about trying to photograph some finished rocks, but my first attempts with just a camera on a tripod produced terrible results, especially with colors. I think the big snakes are really neat to look at, however, I think only the most committed people have the ability to care for them properly throughout their lives. I have been offered so many different types of large snakes over the years--I feel bad for the poor reptiles being re-homed--I would never buy one or consider breeding them myself. I'm using a dark room with a black background cloth and hitting the subject with my camera flash--pretty lazy setup---no tripod--I let the camera can do the work...I'm managing the snake. Sometimes I will get a few LED flashlights and point them at the rocks in different areas if I'm losing too much flash from the camera. I try to take up to 200 photos in 15 minutes and then pick the best one and tag it. A lot of the flash is consumed by the background which is made from a cloth coated with vertically aligned nano-tube arrays which convert light to heat. Nano-tube tech is not currently available to the general public, however, over time more and more companies have explored the ability to produce their own versions (I have one of these test versions-which is rapidly deteriorating). A company in Waltham, MA claims they will release a paint to the general public using nano-tubes and a stabilizer to affix them to different surfaces...I think they called it 'Singularity', but, after trying the disappointing Black 3.0 (which was also hailed as the next 'best thing')...I am cautiously pessimistic.
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Post by MsAli on Aug 25, 2020 12:15:03 GMT -5
I'm really loving the snakes and of course the rocks. Is the 1st one is absolutely amazing. Is it a Banana? the leutistic is stunning. Making me want one Thanks! Yes, the snake in the first photo is a Banana variant: Hypomelanistic Banana Pastel Blue-Eyed Leucistic ball pythons are very popular in the pet trade. There are many gene combinations that can be used to make them--depending upon the genes used you get a varying level of yellowing/grey color or dorsal stripe as they get older. I used two copies of a 'Lesser' gene (aka Super Lesser) to produce the one in the photo. Super Lessers are considered to be the 'whitest' blue-eyed ball python. Even though they are relatively simple to make: some breeders have run into issues where they have produced Super Lessers with deformed eyes--so they are generally avoided. I have had no issue with any I have produced in the past...though my collection is large enough where I can avoid inbreeding closely related specimens. I am so drawn to the banana pastels. They are absolutely beautiful How many snakes do you have in total?
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 25, 2020 12:16:47 GMT -5
A bright yellow and black ball python surrounded by large pieces of dark blue sodalite seems like a sure-fire thing...in effect: a visual embolism... Figured this one out today: The dark blue sodalite I bought from Brazil is actually chatoyant under bright light--it is not visible under regular lighting--that is why my photos for this particular shoot were a mess...
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 25, 2020 12:49:21 GMT -5
How many snakes do you have in total? Yes, the Banana morphs are quite popular. They are also bred heavily and are relatively cheap compared to others. I can't tell you how many snakes I have--it is sort of an unspoken rule for ball python breeders not to give this info--more snakes doesn't mean better quality or conditions. I can say that I am one of the largest 'casual' non-business orientated breeders I've encountered so far.
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 25, 2020 17:37:34 GMT -5
I should also note: Banana morph ball pythons and variants will develop black spots on their bodies as the get older (like freckles)--sometimes prolifically. People who want a nice clean looking snake can be disappointed if they get one as a hatchling and it is eventually covered in these spots. I don't have a snakes/stones picture of an adult Banana with the freckles because I have added the 'Lesser' gene which prevents these spots from appearing and my smaller Banana variants without the Lesser gene are not old enough to develop the spots yet...
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