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Post by Mel on Nov 28, 2020 19:40:12 GMT -5
So I got a new-to-me Genie, and I wonder how I lived without it. It's got pretty much everything I need except for a flat lap disc. What would you guys suggest to get? Are the magnetic ones any good? Is there a good alternative to Diamond Pacific brand (they're quite hard to find in my neck of the woods)?
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 28, 2020 20:01:43 GMT -5
So I got a new-to-me Genie, and I wonder how I lived without it. It's got pretty much everything I need except for a flat lap disc. What would you guys suggest to get? Are the magnetic ones any good? Is there a good alternative to Diamond Pacific brand (they're quite hard to find in my neck of the woods)? I use quite a few spin ons. If I had to do it again, I would get the magnetic system, but I can't speak to how well they work. Never used one. I think they would be easier to use, though.
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Post by stardiamond on Nov 28, 2020 20:30:03 GMT -5
I recently bought an 80 grit no hole screw on from rockpeddler. I wanted something to flatten the back of a cab. I can do other grits rotating against the wheel.
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hummingbirdstones2
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Vince A., 1958-2023
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on Nov 28, 2020 22:39:57 GMT -5
Good for you, Mel. I still remember that feeling from when I got my used Genie.
Can't help with the flat lap question. Already had a cheap flat lap (my first machine of any kind) when I got the Genie.
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Post by Mel on Nov 28, 2020 22:50:45 GMT -5
It's horrible, I just want to go spend all day working with it Need to justify a replacement wheel somehow (ouch). I also love that it's not super messy or wet.
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 28, 2020 23:45:19 GMT -5
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Post by stephan on Nov 29, 2020 0:52:50 GMT -5
So I got a new-to-me Genie, and I wonder how I lived without it. It's got pretty much everything I need except for a flat lap disc. What would you guys suggest to get? Are the magnetic ones any good? Is there a good alternative to Diamond Pacific brand (they're quite hard to find in my neck of the woods)? I’ve been wondering the same. It seems like a good way to polish T-eggs and nodules. If you get the magnetic ones, please let us know how well they work.
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hummingbirdstones2
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Vince A., 1958-2023
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on Nov 29, 2020 9:37:09 GMT -5
Mel and stephan - or anyone wanting to polish larger flat surfaces - you will find a slightly domed head will be your friend for that.
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Post by stephan on Nov 29, 2020 10:50:09 GMT -5
Mel and stephan - or anyone wanting to polish larger flat surfaces - you will find a slightly domed head will be your friend for that. Good to know, but the main reason for wanting the flat disk is size. Some T-eggs are simply too big for the spacing of Genie wheels.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 29, 2020 10:56:13 GMT -5
Mel did you replace the capacitor on your Genie?
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Post by Mel on Nov 29, 2020 11:02:42 GMT -5
Mel did you replace the capacitor on your Genie? Not yet. I ran it for 3 hours yesterday no problem, so I'm not very worried, but I still plan to get a replacement to keep on hand.
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 29, 2020 11:20:24 GMT -5
You know I got to thinking...if you're able to somehow convert and use this capacitor on the Genie, if you mess up on a cab it might be able to take you back in time before you messed it up - like it never happened. Just a thought... www.oreillyauto.com/flux-500.html(I know...not really all that helpful, but I saw capacitor and couldn't resist!)
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 29, 2020 11:53:12 GMT -5
Mel did you replace the capacitor on your Genie? Not yet. I ran it for 3 hours yesterday no problem, so I'm not very worried, but I still plan to get a replacement to keep on hand. Don't wait - replace it now. Vince and I both bought used Genies and ran them for a few months before the capacitor went. We both ended up having to replace the motors. Having a spare won't help if it blows and your motor fries.
Consider this: The capacitor costs less than $50. The motor costs $700.
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hummingbirdstones2
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on Nov 29, 2020 13:04:04 GMT -5
Mel and stephan - or anyone wanting to polish larger flat surfaces - you will find a slightly domed head will be your friend for that. Good to know, but the main reason for wanting the flat disk is size. Some T-eggs are simply too big for the spacing of Genie wheels. Yeah, the large surface area is why a dome is really useful. Lets you work across the whole surface without rounding your edges or catching an edge and gouging the surface of the lap. Helps prevent flying rocks, too.
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Post by Mel on Nov 29, 2020 14:26:21 GMT -5
jasoninsd - every time the word “capacitor” comes up, immediately I think “But I don’t even HAVE a Delorean!” Shame too!
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Post by Mel on Nov 29, 2020 14:28:42 GMT -5
Not yet. I ran it for 3 hours yesterday no problem, so I'm not very worried, but I still plan to get a replacement to keep on hand. Don't wait - replace it now. Vince and I both bought used Genies and ran them for a few months before the capacitor went. We both ended up having to replace the motors. Having a spare won't help if it blows and your motor fries.
Consider this: The capacitor costs less than $50. The motor costs $700.
Most definitely. I’m trying to find one local on my day off, don’t worry Before I tear my machine open, do you know the specs for the cap? I’m not going to get into any major use before than for sure. My initial 3 hours was “Let’s just get a taste....”. Turns out I never want to stop. I also found out I need a trim saw tray insert for it too; mine doesn’t sit evenly due to a broken corner. Sigh.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 29, 2020 14:52:51 GMT -5
Off the top of my head, I don't. I think I remember someone posting the info for it at some point. Do a search of the forum and see if you can find it.
ETA - Here you go:
Mar 13, 2019 13:26:49 GMT -7 Misplaced Aussie said: Looks like the following is the answer. 2MDV5 is $5.61 at Grainger.
Apr 4, 2018 11:44:21 GMT -4 johnjsgems said: Hi, wanted to pass on this information. It is common on older Genies that are purchased after long term storage to have a bad run capacitor. If not replaced the motor will draw excessive amps, run even hotter than normal and burn up. Replacement from manufacturer is $39. A customer just purchased a replacement from Grainger (part number2MDV5) for a whopping $4.70. His Genie is from about 1979 and the oval capacitor fits right in the mount. Newer units could have round capacitors so a little "adjustment" of mount strap may be required. Cheap way to save a $475 OEM motor only available from manufacturer. The totally enclosed Genie motor runs very hot normally. With an amp meter the motor with good capacitor draws around 3 amps. With bad capacitor over 13 amps.
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Post by Mel on Nov 29, 2020 17:09:39 GMT -5
Talk about funny hummingbirdstones - I took mine apart and my husband literally just walked over and said "Go to Grainger, but order online....Four bucks." so thank you
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 29, 2020 18:09:40 GMT -5
Talk about funny hummingbirdstones - I took mine apart and my husband literally just walked over and said "Go to Grainger, but order online....Four bucks." so thank you You're welcome!
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Post by Mel on Dec 5, 2020 11:22:42 GMT -5
So let's just say someone took apart the Genie, and didn't take any pictures (like an idiot), and forgot how to orient the connections on the new capacitor.... The right thing to do would be to make a new post with all the information in it so nobody else has this problem again
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