James
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Post by James on Nov 2, 2005 15:36:11 GMT -5
This ones gonna be a tuffy! Good luck mate!~
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Post by krazydiamond on Nov 2, 2005 15:45:20 GMT -5
not trying to steal any thunder, MArk, nor hijack your thread, but here is a small 14mm x 10mm pendant i finished recently, tried a new type of "wrap tite" mount and botched it, so decided it was mine (i wear my prototypes and mistakes)....the bead i bought from Fire Mountain. this material is very tricky (and extremely messy) to try and cab, but very rewarding when you get a finished piece out of it. the bands never turn out the way you think they will... good luck on your tumbled batch! KD
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Rose
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Post by Rose on Nov 2, 2005 15:50:30 GMT -5
Yeah come on Mark hows it looking ? I bought my rough from : www.manchesterminerals.co.ukIts pretty expensive though. I think I paid something like £3 something for 100gramms, so I only got a tiny bit ! BTW they don't have it on their website, I bought it when I went into the shop Thats a lovely necklace KD
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Post by Original Admin on Nov 4, 2005 10:48:03 GMT -5
Oh no - its getting tricky It has been in Cerium Oxide for about 3 days. The last grit I used was 400 - and it was still re-shaping the rock - so I had to take it out el-rapido (15 hours). Based on the fact that the rock was shaping with 400 - I figured the smallest scratches would be of 400 size. Normally as the 400 breaks down - the finest scratching get smaller - so this didnt get that chance - the grit was all still present after about 15 hours. Soooooo - anyway - I stick it in Cerium - totally dull - but feeling far far smoother than when it came out of the 80 - I figured it wouldnt need a 220 in the end as its so soft. I keep looking each day - and find that the polish is going slightly greener all the time - very very slowly mind you! So - here is a picture of it - after 3 days in cerium. There is a very faint sheen on it now - like a "satin" look to it. My question - will it become shinier the longer I leave it in Cerium - or is this it ***maxed out***? Anyone know? The thing is - Ive done some reading round on the net and it looks like Tin Oxide may do a better job of Malachite. Infact - on reflection literally just sitting here looking at this bit - Im sure its become more shiny during the last round in the polish. Its very much different polishing this than other stuff. When wet - it looks great - like the necklass there from KD. I think - three more days for a bigger diff - then weigh up the next plan. Cheers all. PS - its the pic which makes it look grainy - it looks totally smooth and deep to light greens in reality.
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Post by Cher on Nov 4, 2005 11:16:35 GMT -5
Looks like the banding is showing up much better than before too. That stuff is amazing!
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James
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Post by James on Nov 4, 2005 12:22:34 GMT -5
Try 1000 grit, then tin oxide.
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textiger
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Post by textiger on Nov 4, 2005 14:53:28 GMT -5
That is a beautiful piece of malachite. The banding is fantastic. Given its softness, do you think the malachite might be a candidate for hand-polishing?
matt
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Post by krazydiamond on Nov 4, 2005 18:00:07 GMT -5
that IS a gorgeous piece! the scraps that i have had in the tumbler didn't fare well to date, tho i still have some in CPP, to achieve the shine i did get on the grinder i had to use some diamond paste on a canvas wheel as even the fine polishing wheel on the Genie didn't really do the stone justice. good luck with yours, Mark!
KD
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Post by rockds on Nov 4, 2005 19:31:06 GMT -5
very nice mark cant wait to see the rest.
robert
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Post by Jack ( Yorkshire) on Nov 5, 2005 13:51:42 GMT -5
Hi Mark, its comming on well , and the banding is showing well looking forward to seeing the finished product. Yours, Jack Yorkshire UK
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Post by jdennis on Nov 8, 2005 1:34:16 GMT -5
how did you break yours up? i have a 1lb. chunk of it what do you suggest?
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Post by Alice on Nov 8, 2005 1:51:08 GMT -5
I have to agree with James. Try an even finer grit ... 1000 or maybe even 1200
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Post by Original Admin on Nov 8, 2005 4:10:58 GMT -5
Yeah - but i have to confess Ive been too busy the last few days lighting fireworks, working, PS2ing visiting ppl etc so I havent got it back on the go yet.
I dont know if where I buy rocks from has such a fine grit to be honest - I think ive had 600 from them in the past - yes - certain - but higher?? Will have to take a trip out.
Jdennis - Mine was already broken so I was lucky. I'd use a chisel and hammer to break a larger chunk up tho.
Mark
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Post by Original Admin on Dec 7, 2005 16:20:53 GMT -5
Well - just back to this one. Im flippin flippin flippin dissapointed - I placed the Malachite in a cleaned out polish barrel, with Tin Oxide - the rocks striking each other have pitted themselves with around 1/10th mil pits. I think I may need more pellets................. - do any of you guys think rolling one chunk at a time in tin oxide with nothing else but plastic pellets may work? Its definatly destroying itself by bumping into other chunks whilst on the roll. The polish was green after just 7 hours - indicating (well to me anyway) that its taking too much off the stone. Flippin heckers.
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MichiganRocks
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Post by MichiganRocks on Dec 7, 2005 16:25:55 GMT -5
Hey Mark, you might want to give that a try. Try tumbling one piece of Malachite with pellets and maybe a bunch of pieces of wood. As long as it has lots of surfaces to rub up against, it should polish.
Ron
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Post by Original Admin on Dec 7, 2005 16:58:52 GMT -5
Ron - yes that may be the way - i'll even use some pine as its way soft.
I hear you - I will give it a go tomorrow - its sat all sad looking in the kitchen now - and I think it s going to need another 600 to get rid of the pitting too.
This was a challenge.
Definately one thing established - DONT EXPECT a shine from Malachite if they are are allowed to come into contact with other bits of the same.
Will give it a go and see what the score is.
Cheers mark
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Post by Original Admin on Dec 7, 2005 17:01:18 GMT -5
Alice - I can only get to 600 here. Maybe I need a more specialist store - or perhaps I can order some from manchester minerals. One way or another - I'll get it to polish in a barrel.
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Post by rockds on Dec 7, 2005 18:47:19 GMT -5
Mark, I gave some malachite a try, about 20 pieces all with little to no pitting going in. Used your advice and skipped the 1st and 2nd stages and went strait to the 500 CS. After a week I noticed some pitting (natural) and after 2nd week, I pulled them out and set aside. Seems the malachite I had had lots of pits w/in and came out with a vengence after some of the surface wore down. Anyway, will give them a go with the dremel some day and give it another go.
robert
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